justice roberts: to people, whether it's wills or -- mr. cole: yeah. justice roberts: contracts or landlord/tenant or anything at all. mr. cole: right. so i don't think they have -- they obviously don't have to argue for a position that they disagree with. but what they -- if they provide wills or they provide landlord/tenant to a straight couple, then they have to provide that to a gay couple. and -- justice roberts: so they would -- if someone had a problem in connection with their marriage, again, whatever it is, contract dispute, something like that, they would have to provide representative services to someone who had a similar problem in connection with a same-sex marriage? mr. cole: so i'd say two things, your honor. first of all, i think they would, if they have provided the same services to couples who are straight. but the court might say that when what you're regulating is only speech, not expressive conduct -- because, remember, the o'brien test, the ccmv test, the fair vs. rumsfeld test -- justice roberts: but this not only speech, it's pro