we also have colin elton — a surgeon who uses mesh in some of the procedures he carries out. at some point in the next 30 minutes or so. and david ellis who joins us from home, david had hernia mesh put in, in 2014 — he's still living with crippling pain now. he was in anna's film. colin you are with us, despite your busy schedule, you are joining colin you are with us, despite your busy schedule, you arejoining us, despite your busy schedule as a surgeon. also with us are labour mp sharon hodgson, eloise power — a barrister who specialises in cases involving defective medical equipment — and retired surgeon peterjones, who used to an alternative to mesh. i'm going to start with you in the studio, if i may, first of all. i would like you to react to our exclusive findings, there are more than 100 different types of mesh being used by the nhs in england and scotland, being sewn into patients with a hernia, with little or no medical evidence. how do you react? i think it's disgusting. i have seen what it can do. i lost my husband, andi what it can do. i lost my husband, and i p