. >> we met with a young man who is here today, colin goddard is here. where are you? he was one of the survivors of the virginia tech massacre. when i asked him about what he thought we should be doing, he said, i'm not here because of what happened to me. i'm here because of what happened to me keeping happening to other people and we have to do something about it. >> in kind -- in kindergarten you learned your abc's and 123's, the basics of education. we need to get back to the basics, we need to get back to where decisions weren't based off money or politics, where they were based on protecting our futures. people will always find guns. they will find weapons. we need to guard ourselves against them. we need to do it now. we should have done it 25 years ago. it's been two decades since the pinellas park shooting and we have no excuse. dedicated to mr. richard allen and the hundreds of lives that have been lost in school shootings. >> congratulations to all the winners in this year's studentcam competition. to see more winning videos, go to studentcam.org. >> next,

politico, maggie haberman and assistant director for legislative affairs for the brady campaign, colin goddard. colin, you're in washington. i think the fact that john mccain called out members of his own party for standing in the way of the democratic process seemed to be a powerful moment. if not for the nation, then at least for the republican party. how much pressure do you think that ultimately exerts on these 13 angry men? >> i think it's a great amount of pressure coming from someone from their own party. and that's only, that's in addition to what we've seen from other senate republicans who have come out in favor of this, of possible compromise, on background checks and other issues, like senator isaacson, senator toomy, they understand that their purpose is to vote on this. >> for the newtown families coming to make it real, this is what we need, to always remind us why we're doing this the senators take a vote on this, they're voting to protect the lives of their constituents directly. that needs to be at the forefront of this conversation moving forward. >> maggie, we were talking

if we keep this up, we will change things. >> colin goddard. sam seder is home host of ring of fire. it is not the time to despair. not the time to be a cynic. thank you for creating inspiration. >> congressman charlie rangel will join me to talk about the harsh world of sequester cuts. >> john: it is time for our thing of the day. tonight is our world incident of the day. legos will no longer make its return of the jeddi jabba's palace kit even though it was just based on the jabba the hutt scene in return of the jeddi which opened 30 years ago next month. austria's turkish cultural association said it resembled an offensive muslim stereotype with the vaguely islamic building design and hans solo frozen in carbonite. legos pulled the toy for reasons having nothing to do with the complaints but an international incident was inevitable. think about this. muslims from turkey living in austria got mad a company in denmark over a toy manufactured in eastern europe or mexico based on a movie filmed in england and america 30 years ago about a galaxy

>> i'd like to bring in a unique perspective to this conversation is colin goddard.ere shot four times and you were one of seven in the classroom who survived that day. what are you thinking listening to this conversation and do you have a question for the vice president? >> i'm encouraged by kind of the level of agreement and understanding that we have about the issue of guns in america. yeah, 300 million already owned that we have to be responsible and be safe with those. i mean, we always talk about in these discussions of how can we, you know, make us safer? we always refer to the last major shooting and what could we do to effect that one as opposed to all of the shooting has happened in this country in the past year and the ones that are going to happen. what happened in newtown is a case of a parent who left their guns accessible to their kids. you can't do that. you can't do that. with the legislation, how we could affect that, we can't necessarily stop that shooting but we could have made it far less lethal. we know 11 kids are alive today because they escap

. >> colin goddard works for the brady center to prevent gun violence. he is a victim shot four times at virginia tech six years ago. >> how are you supposed to know if someone has a felony record or restraining order, dangerous mental illness without a background check. supposed to look at them really hard? >> gun rights advocates fear checking all sales could lead to a national gun registry and maybe confiscation. the larger concern, making it hard to buy a gun lawfully may not stop massacres. before owning this store, mike was a police officer for 11 years. >> in your experience as a cop, did that hold true. >> in 11 years, never had a legal pistol licensee use a firearm in a crime. >> gun control advocates say 2 million denied guns is proof of effectiveness. >> most of those people turns out were not on prohibited lists, most were false positive, name looked like somebody else, there were records in there that were incomplete. first thing you have to do is take the system you have and get it fixed and make it work. >> mike says the big issue isn't th

violence and how it touched my family, i think i have an obligation, you know, friends have said, colin goddarddoing this for me, i'm doing this for someone else. you know, we want to stop the gun violence from harming and hurting other families. all of the people that i work with, i've talked to people from tucson, aurora, newtown, they are doing this because they don't want other families in america to be harmed by gun violence. they don't want that pain and suffering visited on anyone. we all deserve to live free from gun violence, and we know what it's going to take, and these senators that voted the wrong way today, shame on them. and we are determined and we are coming back. we're not going anywhere. i'll be knocking on doors tomorrow. >> let me ask you this question, the argument that ended up being marshalled ultimately against the even fairly moderate watered down legislation offered in the manchin/toomey compromise was that it wouldn't actually prevent gun violence, it was an amazing argument which the nra argued to water it down, then they said this isn't going to do much. i wonder w

. >> colin goddard works for the brady center to prevent gun violence. he is a gun violence victim, shot four times at virginia tech six years ago. >> how are you supposed to know if someone's got a felony record? how are you supposed to know if someone's got a restraining order or dangerous mental illness without doing a background check? you supposed to look at them really hard? >> gun rights advocates fear checking all sales could lead to a national gun registry and maybe confiscation. the larger concern, making it harder to buy a gun lawfully may not stop massacres and handgun violence. before owning this long island gun store, owner mike was a police officer for 11 years. in your experience as a cop, did that hold true? >> in 11 years i've never had a legal pistol licensee use his gun in a crime. >> gun control advocates say the nearly two million people denied guns is proof of effectiveness. >> most of those people turns out were not on prohibited lists. most were false positives, name looked like somebody else, records that were incomplete. >> the

. >> colin goddard works for the brady center for gun violence. gun violence victim, shot four times at virginia tech. >> how are you supposed to know if someone has a felony record, restraining order, dangerous mental illness without a background check? look at them really hard? >> reporter: checking all sales could lead to a national gun registry and maybe confiscation, the larger concern, making harder to buy a gun lawfully may not stop massacres and handgun violence. before owning this long island gun story, owner mike marinello was a police officer for 11 years. in your experience, did that work? >> i never had a legal licensy use a pistol in a crime. >> reporter: the nearly 2 million pim deeople denied guns proof of its effectiveness. >> most of those were false positives, name looked like somebody else. records in there incomplete. the first thing you to have do is take the system have you, get it fixed, make it work. >> reporter: the big issue isn't the law, but enforcement. >> if somebody comes in, hell bent on buying a gun, we let them f

. >> colin goddard works for the brady center to prevent gun violence. is he a gun violence, shot four times at virginia tech six years ago. >> how do you know if someone has a restraining order, a mental illness, criminal record without doing a back ground check? you supposed to look at them really hard? >> reporter: some background checks could lead to a national gun registry and maybe confiscati confiscation. the big concern, making it harder to buy a gun lawfully will not stop gun violence. owner mike marinello was a police officer in 11 years. >> in 11 years, i never had a legal pistol licensee ever use his weapon in a crime. >> reporter: the nearly 2 million people who have been denied guns is proof of effectiveness. >> most of the people it turns out were not on prohibited lists. most of them false positives, their name looked like somebody else. records incomplete. the first thing you have to do, take the system you have and get it fixed and make it work. >> mike says the big issue isn't the law, but enforcement. >> if somebody comes in, hell ben

before we went to denver, we want to virginia, and to virginia tech, and there we met up with colin goddard one of those people who was shot up during the massacre in 2007. a film has been made about him called, living for 32. the 32 who died. he had four bullets in him, and he took me through virginia tech where the massacre took place, and he is now working with the brady campaign. he was working during the campaign to get the moderators of the debates to ask a question about gun control. to ask a question about gun violence. why is this so difficult? so we interviewed him. we toured through virginia tech. and then we flew to denver and we expanded the debate, and it was broadcast on public television and radio around the country, and we did it for every debate. let me lay out what we did. the presidential candidates, the major party presidential candidates, were at the university of denver, i think, and the moderator was jim lerh, and we looked online that day and sow how they were dressing the set. you have the bright blue background and the two podiums. each time you didn't actually kn