. >> i would further request that colin kelly's statement prepared for this hearing also be entered into the record in full. >> without objection, so ordered. >> i thank the chair. plaintiff george you talked about i think you said a $450 billion tax gap. >> gross, yes. >> that's this year? >> as of 2006. >> 2006. and it's growing? >> yes, it is. and i believe it's a low balled figure and again, part of the earlier discussion indicated that it's an ongoing review. so and it doesn't include aspects such as the international tax gap. >> understood. do you think there could be some relationship between that growing gap and the fact that we've had a 20% reduction since 1995 in revenue offices and revenue agents? >> there's no question if the irs had additional resources they would be able to collect additional tax receipts. >> i'd point out to my colleagues just for the sake of argument, $450 billion in money owed the government we're not collecting. that's what the tax gap is? correct? >> roughly i mean. >> times ten is $4.5 trillion. now, here we are sweat can we go big at 4 trillion -- sw