do recall saying that to colin myler? >> i don't recall that. there's no record or assertion of them being. there is a reference to potentially a conversation that neither mr. myler nor i recall. it may have happened that i don't have a recollection of the conversation about waiting. >> okay. [inaudible] that would've been what you wanted in? >> i think if they hadn't had a silk city when they came to me in the 10th of june i probably would've asked what leading counsel thought of it, et cetera, but they did. they came to me with communal, a recommendation that leading counsel to provide information about spirit okay. so the bit i'm struggling with how you seem to indicate to damien you weren't aware of the figure that michael steele believes what the amount could cost but you said, you just that every member rightly that you want actually aware of the exact numbers that michael silverleaf gave in his -- mri? >> i was not provide with the document at all and was described to me a range. and leading counsel's opinion had been sought and this was a

do you recall saying that to colin myler? >> i don't recall that. record or assertion of a meeting; there is a reference to, potentially, a conversation that neither mr myler nor i recall. it may have happened, but i don't have a recollection of a conversation about waiting for the silk's view. >> okay. but you wanted the opinion of the silk before you agreed to authorize? you wanted that. >> i think if they hadn't had a silk's view when they came to me on 10 june, i probably would have asked what leading counsel thought of it etc., but they did, and they came to me with a recommendation that leading counsel had provided information about. >> okay. the bit i am struggling with now is that you seemed to be indicating to damian that you were not aware of the figure that michael silverleaf had quoted for what the amount could be. you understood that there were costs on top, but you just said, if i remember rightly, that you were not actually aware of the exact numbers that michael silverleaf gave. am i right? >> i was not provided with the document its

the following tuesday where he is clearly expecting colin myler to the meaning within, which he said he can't be advocacy group are in for a holiday. when did you first see that name of? >> i didn't see that memo at the time. i first saw that memo recently since i gave evidence to you in july spent so that was aprivate note from tom crone to colin myler, and was not copied to? >> it was not shared with the. >> would you agree, the fact that you can't recall having a meeting, or discssion, certainly colin myler can't recall having a meeting that tom crone expect to happen, writing pretty serious memo, the question as to how thee two deal with each other and whether they fall in frank with what they're up to? >> i mean, i couldn't possibly spike lee about all the conversation they might have had with each other but i just don't know. [inaudible] people have occasionally refresh their memories, and colin myler has told he has been unable to verify details of the discussion th m or may not have aken place because news of the international have refused them access to the relevant document

when you had this meeting did you ask colin myler, you know who taylor was? >> pardon me? >> did you? >> did you know who gordon tayl was? >> i don't recall if i knew he'd he was beforehand, ut mr. myler uld have told me spirit did you ask any meeting who the hell is this gordon taylor? >> i don't recall if i asked. i recall being awa of it at the time. what it was prior or maybe where any meaning who mr. taylor was i n't recall spent do you know what he did for a living? i was told. as i just said to you to be clear, i don't know if i had a lot of knowledge about mr. taylor's role. >> the one thing that really, that really showed us and i think any 10 year old that the "news of the world" line did not stand up with the fact according to was not a member of the royal family or the royal household. so did you not say well he is not royal? >> i think the point here is not so much whether or not i was ld gordon taylor was, but really what, you know, when i came to news corporation in 2007, what didn't happen was, i did not receive a briefing on all the matters in 2006, decembe

suggest that there was no mention of the e-mail, despite being central to your discussions with colin myler? >> i want to be very clear. that was not referred to as the e-mail. it was mentioned to me as evidence that was greece -- important. it proved it was on behalf of "news of the world." it was not shown to me or discussed with me. it might indicate widespread knowledge or wider spread activities of phone hacking. it was important for two reasons. it was evidence that was important to the case. in conjunction with leading counsel's opinion and what i would have liked in retrospect to have had and moving forward on a different footing. >> there was no mention that news group newspapers have actively made use of a larger group as was mentioned in the memo. >> it was only mentioned that there were voicemail transcripts there. those documents that you are referring to. >> there is no mention of the number of journalists. who were obtaining access to information. umass with myler on the 10th of june, this time with crone. >> i did not receive mr. silverly's opinion. i do not know what they d