the political advantage went to colin powell and the conservatives on his side.hat dynamic is over now. and conservatives who are trying to find an anti-gay ally this time around in the chairman of the joint chiefs are embarrassing themselves by doing so. watch this. >> it does go to a fundamental principle with me, which is everybody counts. and part of the struggle back to the institutional integrity aspect of this -- >> well, i know, i'm -- >> and putting individuals in a position that every single day they wonder whether today's going to be the day. and devaluing them in that regard just is inconsistent with us as an institution. i have served with homosexuals since 1968. senator mccain spoke to that in his statement. everybody in the military has. and we understand that, so it is a number of things which cumulatively for me personally get me to this position. for me this is not about command influence this is about leadership. and i take that very seriously. >> and can you see in the face of senator jeff sessions there that the leadership from the chairman o

>> guest: i think colin powell would've had a tough time getting his parties nomination. because colin powell is a republican who is much more a moderate gain of a kind of a republican that is now a lost art. and i think of people like nelson rockefeller. there's a republican party of rockefeller, the rockefeller wing that the republican party which were really moderates compared to contemporary republicans. so i think colin powell is somebody the republicans loved to look at and uphold and say, you know what, this is such a great, great figure, he was secretary of state, he was chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, he has this role model. but i think he would've had a tough time getting his own party's nomination. >> host: after barack obama was elected president, there was a sense that all things were possible come and a lot of people felt there was a great euphoria. they said a lot about the country and what it had, how it had changed and evolved. one year into his presidency, what do you see has happened in the country, and has the country changed? >> guest: i think

colin powell's statement in -- this week was wonderful news and validation and courageous testimony of chairman mullen. admiral mullen. we want to to -- to be able to replace don't ask/don't tell with a policy of nondiscrame -- nondiscrimination. it would be my preference to go first with legislation but we'll have to examine and and see what the model is. it's not a question of the we're going to do. it's a question of how we can protect people as we go through with the repeal of don't ask/don't item. >> disaggregated these large packages into more digestible components. do you regret or do you think the white house regrets not proceeding with that option initially? >> are you talking about health care? >> health care and other things. >> let's review. one year ago around this time we were moving our recovery package to the president's desk. ilingts goal was to create jobs to stimulate the economy and it has done just that. as you can see -- as the estimates tell us, two million jobs have been created or saved. it's also about the education of our children, more teachers in the classr

. >> the two architects of the don't ask don't tell policy in 1990, general colin powell and senator sam nunn have a both a revamped their own positions. it has to go through congress, and they want to build up the evidence and the case in behalf of repealing the policy, because there is resistance, in the military and also in the congress as well. >> that is the last word. thanks for being with us. see you next week. for a transcript of this broadcast, log on to insidewashington.tv. to providing service to its auto insurance customers for over 70 years. more information on auto insurance at geico.com or 1-800-947-auto any time of the day or night.

. >> colin powell was the chairman of the joint chiefs. >> colin powell was chairman of the joint chiefsned that white house team with bill clinton in june of that year. i remember very distinctly an evening this late night when he had to make this final call, was he going to do this or not. we were sitting upstairs in the residence at the white house, a grape of 12, 13 people, all top national security people, including colin powell, top white house aides. and others. after a heated discussion, the president said, i want your advice. he went around, and i think there were about 12 of us, wolf, who all said, mr. president, this isn't perfect, but the military does not want you to live this ban, this is a compromise. we think you should accept it. there was one vote the other way. that was vice president al gore, who spoke last and said, mr. president, i disagree with this, i think we should lift the ban. i do not like this compromise. i don't like it, i think we should -- and so it was basically 12-1. the president decided to go with the compromise, and he announced it in the next couple

it came from retired general colin powell.clinton years powell backed the don't ask, don't tell policy. he now says, "attitudes and circumstances have changed since those years." >>> the u.s. air force academy in colorado springs has now set aside a new outdoor worship area for followers of earth-centered religions, that includes pagans, druids, witches and wiccans. it's a double circle oones on a hilltop. one of the chaplains there calls it, quote, another example of celebrating the freedom we enjoy as well as the freedom we as airmen have pledged to defend. there's been one desecration incident since its opening. officials are repeating that message of tolerance on campus. >>> money i tight these days, but apparently not at sotheby's and london where an anonymous bidder set a big record today, $104.3 million for something called "walking man one," a 60-year-old six foot tall bronze sculpture by alberto giacometti. it is the largest amount ever paid at an auction for any work of art, narrowly edging out the work paid for six

tony would say, "jack, you have been to see colin powell," and all that had been in the press anyway. "why don't you tell us how the meeting went?" jack would make a few jokes, as he does, and so on. the first meeting of the cabinet after the summer, people did, obviously having read the press, say that this was dangerous. what about the palestinians? can we do that first -- can we not do that first? a number of people said things. tony reassured and said, don't worry, nothing has been cited. thereafter, the discussions at cabinet were little chats about what had been in the media that week. there was never -- and i think this is a very serious machinery of government question that is forming from the conclusions of what went wrong -- there was never a meeting -- i think it should have been defense and overseas policies because there were all of the chiefs of the defense staff and sis and all the permanent secretaries as well as the secretaries of state to do with foreign affairs. there was never a meeting that said -- what is the opt -- the problem? what we tried to cheat? what are o

toyota is giving dealers up to $75,000 to fix those problems quickly. >>> retired army general colin powelln the military. he now says that gays and lesbians should be allowed to openly serve and that the don't ask, don't tell policy should be repealed. powell helped adopt that policy 17 years ago, but yesterday he said that attitudes and circumstances have changed since that law was put into place. >>> the tea party begins its first national convention today. sarah palin's going to be the keynote speaker saturday. critics say the more than $500 ticket price alienates people at the core of the grassroots effort. supporters say that the sold-out event in nashville will build alliances that can force change in both major parties. >>> blogs are lame but facebook rule. a new survey shows that teens and young adults are not using blogs or twitter as much as they used to. the number of teens who blog dropped from 28% to half that between 2006 and 2009. instead, a pew internet project report found that more young people prefer facebook and texting to keep up with their friends. >>> by the way, we

. >> host: colin powell who declined to run in 1996 was someone who polled really well. was he someone who could have been elected president of this country? >> guest: i think colin powell would have had a tough time getting the party nomination and he knew that come to back because colin powell is a republican who is much more in a moderate gain of the kind of republicanism that is now a lost art and i think if people like nelson rockefeller. there is a republican party of the rockefeller wing of the republican party which were moderates compared to contemporary republicans so i think colin powell is somebody republicans love to look at and uphold and say you know what, this is such a great figure. he was secretary of state, chairman of the joint chiefs of staff. he's this role model but i think that he would have had a tough time getting his own party's nomination. >> host: after barack obama was elected president there was a sense that all of things were possible, a lot of people felt it was great euphoria. they said it said a lot about the country and how it had chan

i went to see colin powell. why don't you folks have a meeting? so jack would make a few jokes as he does. there was the first meeting of the cabinet after the summer. people did, having obviously read the press, saying this is dangerous, what about the palestinians and a number of people to give themselves worries off of their chest at that meeting and don't worry, cut remarks and thereafter the discussions were little chats about what had been in the media. there is a very serious machinery of government question for the conclusion of what went wrong. there was never a meeting. it was affecting the policy because there is the staff and all the permanent secretaries as well as the secretary of state for 4 in affairs. what are we trying to achieve, what are the diplomatic options, we never had that coherent discussion of what the problem was that the government was trying to achieve. >> my next question relates to timing. by the time from the documents that you and your officials were being given access that was well advanced the digital debut fee

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>> guest: will you think colin powell would've had a tough time getting his party's elimination. colin powell is a republican who's much more in a moderate theme of the kind of republicanism that is now a lost art. and i think people like nelson rockefeller -- there is a republican party of the rockefeller wing of the republican party, which were really moderates compared to contemporary republicans. so i think colin powell is somebody who republicans love to look at and uphold and say, you know what, this is such a great, great figure. he was secretary of state. he was chairman of the joint chiefs of staff. he's this role model. i think he would've had a tough time getting his own party's nomination. >> host: after barack obama was elected as an act, there was a sense that all things were possible, a lot of people felt there was that said a lot about the country and how it had changed and evolved. one year into his presidency, what do you see as happened in the country and has the country changed? >> guest: well, i think it's a mixed response in the sense that the euphoria after

tell you, i think everybody in that room, the vast majority of people in that room, including colin powell, then head of the joint chiefs, certainly i would, would now view, let's get rid of don't ask, don't tell. let's get moved to letting gays serve openly. i very much believe that. i'm biased on the subject now. >> let's talk about the politics of this. i want to show our viewers something that senator john mccain said today after secretary gates and admiral mullen made their comments. let's play that. >> i'm happy to say that we still have a congress of the united states that would have to pass a law to repeal don't ask, don't tell, despite your efforts to repeal it, in my respects, by fiat. >> he says, at this point, with two wars going on, it's not the right time for that. a lot of liberal groups pointed to something else that the senator said back in 2006. i want to play that for our viewers as well. >> the day that the leadership of the military comes to me and says, senator, we ought to change the policy, then i think we ought to consider seriously changing it, because those leade

. >> i don't think gates and mullen are necessarily ordered by colin powell in his day. he's now changed his mind but in his day he said no, i'm not ready for this. so i suspect there are a lot of people especially at the top of the military who have shifted. i suspect a lot of people in private have shifted just as society has shifted. nonetheless i do think the pace they're going on while very slow is correct. >> lehrer: the marine corps and the secretary crushed him not to do it in a hurry. admiral millen was very frankie he said he spent the last year figuring out how to deal with the problems. it didn't come as a surprise to him. he had come to this conviction himself. >> lehrer: one of the most outspoken of this criticizing mullen to his face income are you reading what's going on with john mccain right now. >> there are two things at work. first of all when anybody runs for president, there's a burst of pride in the home state voters. and when that candidate loses as most candidates for presidents do, like 95% do and they turn and they say, you know, you did a hel

colin powell and brent scowcroft. bob gates is in the foreground. was the navy -- youngest navy fighter pilot in world war ii and as commander in chief, he was making a decision to send young folks off to war. this was on the south lawn, just a couple hours before he pulled the trigger on this. it did not take that long to get iraq out of kuwait. here was colin powell talking norman schwarzkopf -- talking to norman schwarzkopf at the end of the gulf war. president clinton congratulating former president bush. at that moment, i was unemployed. i wish i had not taken the picture. [laughter] i was fortunate to have the opportunity to take a similar picture. family was such an important part of -- and always has been since day one, if you read any of the books on the bush family. he was so proud of his son. this is jeb being sworn in as the governor of florida and i was given the opportunity to photograph that. george w. and his dad, down in houston, texas. george w. aand barb at their first inaugural. out of the clear blue sky, i got a call to photogra

>> guest: will you think colin powell would've had a tough time getting his party's elimination. colin powell is a republican who's much more in a moderate theme of the kind of republicanism that is now a lost art. and i think people like nelson rockefeller -- there is a republican party of the rockefeller wing of the republican party, which were really moderates compared to contemporary republicans. so i think colin powell is somebody who republicans love to look at and uphold and say, you know what, this is such a great, great figure. he was secretary of state. he was chairman of the joint chiefs of staff. he's this role model. i think he would've had a tough time getting his own party's nomination. >> host: after barack obama was elected as an act, there was a sense that all things were possible, a lot of people felt there was that said a lot about the country and how it had changed and evolved. one year into his presidency, what do you see as happened in the country and has the country changed? >> guest: well, i think it's a mixed response in the sense that the euphoria after

colin powell was told they could go to gay bars or march in a parade as long as they did come out in the physical capacity, they would be prosecuted. the mid level largely -- officers would not promote yeas. >> i won't comment. it is too third

2001 just after he had come to power as president of the united states we dealt with iraq with colin powell but it was very much in the context of trying to get a different sanctioned framework in place. >> if i put it in a rather simple terms he hadn't at this point broken out of the box he had been put in although there were some holes in the box. would that be -- >> buckles were quite substantial. >> they needed attention. >> but the critical thing and if you forgive me for interrupting but it's absolutely essential to realize this. a september 11th hadn't happened our assessment of the risk of allowing saddam any possibility of him reconstituting his programs would not have been the same but after september 11th and if you'd like me to now i will explain what a difference that made to the thinking. after september 11th our view, the american view changed dramatically. >> that is precisely what i would like to come to because we have heard from many witnesses and i don't think anybody is in doubt about this question but 9/11 was a massive hushovd which changed the international environme

union, and really his aides, his top aides, secretary of state, national security adviser the was colin powell, george shultz began to make as many decisions as they can on their own and take to him only what they have to. but then, by powell's recollection, reagan not only was, when he lists presented with a decision then when he felt he needed to come and he made the right decision. this is not just on soviet policy. there was a round of disputes about what to do about ben well noriega and panama. this was in the spring of 88 and this was another one of those issues were george h.w. bush was the how can team wants to take tough action against noriega and even if there is a question of military threats, and everything gets brought to reagan or there are a series of interagency meetings and reagan says no. but, by powell's recollection, by schultz's recollection, he was fully with that but beginning to to not. i found in going through these archives one curious item, which i could take no further. which was, it is december 1988. dragons are planning to move back to california, and there are a

bill: mike emanuel watching from the pentagon, thank you and we're in touch with colin powell, our reporterabout the professor accused of gunning down three colleagues and she and her husband questioned after a package with two bombs was sent to a harvard professor in 1993. and the bombs never went off, and, there is no evidence, ever linking the couple to the case. amy bishop was arrested on friday, in the shooting at the university of alabama at huntsville, after she was denied tenure. and the new details today, coming after we have learned over the weekend, that bishop shot and killed her brother, back in 1986 and claimed it was accidentally just discharged and authorities in massachusetts never charged her for that. and joining us now with the latest is michelle sedona, a investigative crime reporter with more on the story. welcome. as i didn't it, she had an argument with her brother, prior to the shooting. why did police simply back away from this and not charge her? >> what is interesting, uma, is at the time, in 1986, when the case broke out, i did speak with the former police chief

straw had made to colin powell and he was having to constantly write and tell them they should be seeking his legal advice. do you think the fact that he had to respond to people making statements without being clear, do you think i could've been avoided if the attorney had been able to discuss issues in the cabinet and that would have actually insured that the former advice of the attorney would have been preempted? >> i think the very first paper we got on this back in march are the clutch of papers we got, in march 2002, which were seen obviously by jack -- i mean, the legal paper was provided by jack straw department, and by geoff hoon as well, was having fully aware of all this. people had the basic legal framework. now i think it's perfectly good for peter goldsmith as the attorney general, and his own pollution, if he thought someone was saying thing that could be justified as on in legal terms. he had gotten on the phone and don't do it or written them a note and said, come back into line on this. which i think they get. i don't think would've made a great deal of difference to ha

colin powell told him that gays would be allowed to go to gay bars and march in gay parades as long as they did not come out on base in their professional capacity they would be prosecuted, but bill clinton said that evangelical officers would not promote gays? would not promote gays? >> well, i won't comment on it. it is too third hand to me. i would have to see what he actually said. >> senator, one more question. >> try it again, but slower. >> tell me about the schedule of how you see that the senate armed services committee will continue? >> well we will have a hearing of outside panels a week from thursday. we will hear from the service secretaries and service chiefs during the month of february on their budgets. so, during those budget hearings, i am sure there is an opportunity for colleagues to ask them, and they will expect to be asked their position on the president's approach and what secretary gates announced here today and there is a lot of activity on the subject today. >> and the hearing a week from thursday do, you foe who are the witnesses there? >> we don't know, but

going through the hearings and hysteria, where you had the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, colin powell, completely against it. >> speaking of reversals, mccain was interesting. perhaps he's changed his tune a bit, although they would dispute that character za the characterizations. >> a big show coming up. first, let's turn to the news. >>> let's look at the top stories this morning. encouraged by members of his own family, the nigerian man accused of bombing a u.s. jetliner is providing fresh intelligence on who was behind the terror plot. the information is said to be providing new clues on al qaeda in yemen, who trained the 23-year-old on brrr thebefore tn christmas day. the nation's top intelligence officials are offering a chilling assessment when it comes to future attacks. >> the question is, what is the likelihood of another terrorist attempted attack on the u.s. homeland in the next three to six months? high or low? director blair? >> an attempted attack, the priority is certain i would say. >> mr. panetta? >> i would agree with that. >> mr. muller? >> agree. >> general burgen

colin powell told him that gays would be allowed to go to gay bars and march in gay parades as long as they did not come out on base in their professional capacity they would be prosecuted, but bill clinton said that evangelical officers would not promote gays? >> well, i won't comment on it. it is too third hand to me. i would have to see what he actually said. >> senator, one more question. >> try it again, but slower. >> tell me about the schedule of how you see that the senate armed services committee will continue? >> well we will have a hearing of outside panels a week from thursday. we will hear from the service secretaries and service chiefs during the month of february on their budgets. so, during those budget hearings, i am sure there is an opportunity for colleagues to ask them, and they will expect to be asked their position on the president's approach and what secretary gates announced here today and there is a lot of activity on the subject today. >> and the hearing a week from thursday do, you foe who are the witnesses there? >> we don't know, but we will try to get a cr

so, i hope that the president will put together this commission, put a strong leader, a colin powellor someone of that magnitude as the trustee to work with the haitian people to rebuild the island of haiti. and i hope we can get effort and energy behind that proposal quickly so that we don't have any other significant challenges in the coming months ahead for the haitian people. with that, mr. president, i thank you, and i yield the floor. a senator: mr. president? the presiding officer: the senator from nevada is recognized. mr. ensign: mr. president, i rise today because our economy is struggling. unemployment remains high. the recession's hold on cities across america is as strong as ever. my home state of nevada has been one of the hardest hit, and our tourism-dependent economy is barely hanging on. unfortunately this is true for tourism-dependent cities across our country. during these difficult economic times, it simply isn't enough to try to stimulate domestic spending by passing one massive spending bill after another. we need to incentivize tourists from across the world to

as former secretary of state colin powell has said, people are now starting to question whether we're following our own high standards. brutality like that hurts our credibility and undercuts our reputation in the global community. i'm a veteran. i wear my vietnam pin well. and proudly. i served in the navy, i'm passionate about protecting this country and keeping our soldiers safe. more than anything this amendment was designed to protect them. several soldiers have gone and done a far better job than i have in explaining why we need laws like this. retired colonel stewart harrington said that cruelty in interrogations, quote, endangerers our soldiers on the battlefield by encouraging reciprocity, closed quote. the golden rule, if you will. retired admiral john huston has said, quote, getting our interrogation policies back on track will preserve our standing to fight for humane treatment of american soldiers who are captured. i couldn't agree more. without clear laws that define acceptable and unacceptable interrogation practices, including criminal consequences for violating those

blix gave a presentation to the report which wasn't long after colin powell's ury sycophant speech ofary? >> it was until i was disappointed, i was getting confused as to what he was trying to tell because what he kept doing is saying yes there is a bit of cooperation here but then there's not cooperation their and was particularly struck me about the 14th of february blix report and this then had a huge significance and what i tried in to construct as a final way of avoiding the war is on page 26 of his briefing she deals with his issue of interviews and he says that the iraqi side because they are starting to move on interviews because he's beginning to press on it they have made a commitment they would allow it but then when he actually comes to the introduce themselves people are very reluctant to do it. >> often an inherent problem with this regime for the reasons you've given -- and correct we knew that before hand. >> but it's precisely the reason there for white even if blix had continued the fact is he would never have gotten the truth out of saddam and the leading people in

davis junior, who led the tuskegee airmen and general colin powell, the first black joint chief of staffjust to name a few. unfortunately, today, black veterans are more likely to be homeless, more likely to receive less than honorable discharges and suffer from disparities in treatment for cronig illnesses such as respiratory abuse, diabetes and cancer and post-traumatic stress disorder. i urge passage of this resolution in the hope that will not only recognize those who blazed the trail for us, but will increase awareness of the need to continue the advancement of civil rights and liberties for all americans. i urge the v.a. specifically to recognize the unique struggle of many minority veterans and assure all the benefits they earned and deserved. passing this legislation is the least we can do for these veterans who have done so much for our country. i urge passage of this legislation and i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. the question is, will the house suspend the rules and agree to house concurrent resolution 238. those in favo

he called for the closing of guantanamo as well as general colin powell who was head of not only our state department but head of the national security under president -- former presidents. it's an indication to me that this on a bipartisan basis is something that should be done and done in a careful way, i would agree with that, but let's be honest about this. there has been a bipartisan consensus that this is a good thing to do to make america safer. the last point i would like to make on this, madam president, is that we have a responsibility to tell the world that those who are accused of terrorism will be tried in our courts before our military commissions in a way that respects due process so that at the end of the day we do not have an outcome where people question whether we applied the principles and values to these trials as we apply them to other trials involving americans. for those who argue that they should basically be given the bacteria of the hand, ignored, no warnings, no due process. at the end of the day, we won't be stronger for that. at the end of the day, if we

steps in the administration's efforts to improve america's schools at an event hosted by general colin powell is the nation's largest partnership organization dedicated to improving the lives of children and youth. tuesday, the president will travel to savannah, georgia. the only guidance i have for wednesday through friday is that he is attending meetings at the white house. so, with those four announcements -- >> can you follow up on health care? now that the summit is over, can you be direct about this point? will be president support the use of reconciliation to get a health care bill through if a deal can be reached? >> the president found yesterday's meeting and conversation to be productive. i think, certainly, there were points throughout the nearly seven hours, including lunch break. there were areas of agreement and common efforts on an issue that we know is important to the american people. no doubt, there were differences. when the primary differences appeared to be the treatment of insurance companies and the regulation of insurance companies. in all honesty, those differences ma