joining us now, colin powell, thank you very much.ation and your role in the community. let's talk about ccny and what you've created in new york at ccny, a school my dad went to, it was a school that you went to. it was the place of choice for young men and women in that day who didn't have a lot of other options as a public university. >> a public university formed in 1847 as the free academy of new york. first one like it in the country where we are going to take all of the kids of the people of all of the people and give them a chance to get an education. and it's been doing that for all of these years. it took me in in 1954 as just a kid born in harlem and raised in the south bronx and allowed me to go into the army and compete with guys from west point and harvard and princeton and otherwise. the reason i got the education because the citizens of new york said, what do we have that is more important to do than to educate the next generation? and now in this phase of my life, i'm back at ccny with the powell school for civic and

methods some of your interrogators the league broke the detainees and you also say that is what colin powell who was the secretary of state at the time was most concerned about and that rumsfeld used to walk out of the room and didn't even want to hear anything about this. those must also run a long nose to you. >> what you are referring to is the national security council meetings that were held regularly during the course of the interrogation program. this was all of the policymakers briefed on what the techniques were and i would go to some of these meetings with the cia director of the tabl at the tabi would observe the reactions. it was fascinating. >> host: did it make you nervous sometimes? >> guest: i will say and i said in the book waterboarding was laid out in detail i don't remember if of chechens to waterboarding but i was struck by colin powell's genital body language and demeanor. he gave every possible by of not wanting to be in that room but when he did speak out i was struck by the distinguished military background that he would notice he seemed to be use sleep deprivation a

i was struck by colin powells body language and demeanor. he gave off eave vibe of not wanting to be in the room. but when he did speak up, i was struck, and given his extensive military background he would know this. he seemed to view sleep deprivation as the most brutal of all the techniques. i thought that was fascinating. rumsfeld, as you say, would try to avoid all these meetings, and the ones he couldn't avoid, these principals meetings, so he tried to, but couldn't delegate it. but he didn't want -- he just simply didn't want to know about any of this. i don't think he had any moral objections but he didn't want to be touched with it, especially after abu grain. >> host: you are there representing the agency. so you have been out now for. four years. you heard the debate about whether this constitutes torture. i definitely get the impression by the way you talk about it that you actually -- this is my question -- in these intervening years, that you consider this torture. that it is not something less. especially in combination. and i

kissinger, condoleezza rice, colin powell. that has been going on during the obama administration? meeting every three or four months and saying, is it conducted by the president? >> the national security adviser. >> then he reports to the president. >> i think we started in 2009. there may have been other administrations but i remember the first time i did it, we had colin powell and henry kissinger, and just about everybody. it was such a good discussion, and so rich in terms of history because history does repeat itself. so what we would do is periodically give them a presentation on the top two or three things we were dealing with, and then we would have an afternoon's worth of discussion. they were so good that the president and vice president used to drop in periodically and just sit and listen and occasionally ask questions. >> not trying to run the meeting, just trying to participate. >> my successor kept it going. i'm sure susan rice will. >> are you confident we are on the right track? where this is absolutely, there is an awareness of the potential of all of this and we

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. >> rose: colin powell, all of them being secretary of state. >> exactly. >> rose: that's been goingn during the obama administration. the president meeting with the national security advisor every three or four months and saying is it conducted by the president or is it done by -- >> the national security advisor. >> rose: so he does it. he reports to the president. >> yes. i think we started it in 2009. there may have been other administrations but i remember when the first time i did it and we had -- colon -- colin powell and kissinger and just about ever. it was a good discussion and so rich in terms of history because history does repeat itself. so what we would do is periodically give them a presentation on kind of the top two or three things that we were dealing with and then we'd have an afternoon's worth of discussion. and they were so good that the president and vice president used to drop in periodically and just sit and listen and occasionally ask questions. >> rose: not trying to run the meeting just trying to participate. >> my successor, tom donnylin kept it going. >>

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about nixon but we're talking about today look at look at the candidates we have conned elisa rice colin powell you know we have it in what the first senator and by the way the reason why the first black senator in the united states congress is sitting now today in two thousand and thirteen is because democrats refused to seek the republican black senator when he was sent by the state of louisiana. and when it was one of my what's that noise here in the one hundred thirty s. ok so i stay in touch because i think i'd so so your assertion is that the republican party actually is as the democratic party has i think largely done although i'm sure there's still a lot of racists in the democratic party but officially repudiated the racism where they haven't had any affairs and beauty and shown the democratic party well i think such a civil rights act signing the voting rights act was a fairly large really you don't think so no how about calling out some folks who profited who benefited and whose careers were built on it saying to them no you can't your son is now going to be the next vice pres at hap

colin powell is here and the head of the urban league is here as well. big cities where young black men face many issues in some big cities. 80% the black men in those cities have criminal records. a black child and black boy born today had a in three chance spending time in prison for in his life. that's what the president is trying to correct as we get ready here. you see all the people here getting ready. i will be here for that initiative. >> we will take it live. do me a favor and stand by. a voice walk in, the author of the eight principals of empowerment and a professor at syracuse university. listen, i know that you endorsed barack obama. many, many moons ago. when it comes to this initiative which we are about to see, you say this is too little, too late. why? >> i did soul searching and i talked to people who advocated for black males for their lives. people like this in chicago, i also talked to the political scientist and our conclusion is that we have to figure out if this is real. the proof is in the potato salad. when you decide you want t

that some of your interrogators believed broke one of the detainees and you also say that is what colin powell who was the secretary of state at the time was most concerned about and that rumsfeld used to walk out of the room and he didn't even want to hear about any of this. those must have rung alarm bells for you in a way. >> guest: what are you referring to is the national security council principles meetings that were held regularly actually during the course of the interrogation. with was the cia doing this on its own or all the policies were were -- policyholders were reefed on how they were being implemented. i would go to some of these meetings with the cia director at the table so i would reserve reactions. it was fascinating. >> host: did it make you nervous sometimes? >> guest: yeah a certain sense of foreboding. i say in the book that waterboarwaterboar ding was laid out in detail and how we were using it at the time. i don't remember a lot of debate for concern or objections to waterboarding but i was struck by cowan powells general body language and first of all he gave off ever

but now that leaves us with a situation, remember colin powell's rule, pottery barn: you break it, you pay for it. now we're talking about whether the west, the eu, the united states, the imf are going to come in, $35 billion. now let's remember one thing that caused the crisis back in november, when yanukovych did not sign the association agreement with eu they were promising the $1 billion assistance deal, and that's why he signed the russian one instead. >> for no other reason than to pass the tough antidemonstration laws. >> he did and i think he handled that very, very badly. things like wearing face masks and carrying cudgels in the street, try to do that in washington and see what that does for you. >> what happens to this interim gust such that it is? good i think it has to be two things. they have to be worried immediately about economic and fiscal stabilization and that's got to be a joint international effort. but they have to reach out to the eastern part of the country, the southern part of the country, not necessarily to mr. yanukovych but to somebody representing those i

colin powell, condoleeza rice, it is open season and you and your dad have been called that. how about this, either it is the naacp or ldcp or -- >> it is a great organization, and they should avoid becoming the n double a certain people, instead of colored people, certain people. let me say this, sean, i am a member of the naacp. >> so am i, i became a lifetime member when i lived in atlanta. >> and i'm a member, as well. and let me tell you we have to separate how the national arm of the naacp operates from local chapters like the las vegas naacp which has a comprehensive plan. they understand the problems in the black community are so profound that you need liberal solutions, conservative solutions. >> if they don't fix this and stop this open season attack on conservatives, i can't be a part of this. >> it is only a matter of time until the wheel turns and it goes towards black liberals. it is wrong either way. >> well, listen i hear what you guys are saying and i am glad, niger, that you brought up voter registration, that is what the naacp has a huge vote on, all of the

now the latest tim scott, every black conservative i have many friends, condy rice, colin powell. there is an acceptance of attacking black conservatives with the most vile and hateful names. where is the naacp, bob. why don't they condemn him or fire him from that position or demand an apology. >> i wish you would calm down here my friend, you don't need to be threatening like that. the -- i think -- >> seriously. >> i think seriously they should give an apology. they probably won't get one. but it does not help. the naacp needs to understand it was inclusive that got us the civil rights movement, and made it work. republicans and democrats, and in many cases. >> it ought to be the naalcp liberal -- >> it's not -- >> hold on. >> you can't make all liberals into this, i mean, not all liberals. i wouldn't have said that -- >> why do they always attack conservatives with the most vile hateful names? >> i'm sa accepted? it happens with regularity. >> it happens with more regularity than it should. it doesn't happen with all of the left. a big part of this is, there's a complete misun

as we honor and remember achievements in black history, secretary of state colin powell is noted forging his own parties' views on civil rights. and also, singer and music producer who won four grammys this year. now in the world of sports, the countdown is on, just three days to go before the first athletes take their mark in sochi. chris jansing is on the ground reporting from the olympics. good to see you, chris. your first 24 hours in sochi. tell us, what was it like getting inside and have you seen any athletes so far? >> reporter: it was pretty painless, ari, i have to tell you. the thing from coming to the olympics, all of these colorful signs and people there to greet you. you immediately get into the spirit and adding to that spirit, a lot more american athletes have started to arrive. the women of usa hockey who may well be gold medalists are here. we got our first press conference from the bobsled team, including lolo jones, who is now the pusher for one of the bobsled teams and she got very emotional when talking about the support of her teammates after a lot of criticism

we have heads of other companies, mcdonald's, we have colin powell there who has a very impressive foundation that is already deeply involved in this work. we have 10 foundations that have committed real resources all right 150 million and then the promis to invest another additional 200 million and that is just the begin. >> i do want to clarify though. we have referred to young minority men and young black men. is this really a program directed towards young black people or is it across the board in all minority communities, what do you mean by that? >> it is primarily directed to black and latino men. those are the ones who are most at risk. if you look at the statistics those are the ones who are entering into schools not really prepared so we need early childhood programs for them to get them ready for school. those are the ones that are lagging and learning to read by third grade. the evidence showed shows if you haven't learned to read by third grade the chances of finishing high school on time are less anders in you are poor. we know that disproportionately black and latino men are ex

tomorrow, colin powell jr.melvin next with a look at what's on "newsroom." >> hey, andrea. we continue to follow that senate vote to extend unemployment benefits to those who were abruptly cut off at the end of last year. the vote was already delayed once today. at this point, it is still not clear whether democrats have the votes to pass it. >>> also, prosecutors have just started laying out their case against the florida man accused of shooting and killing an unarmed teenager during a dispute over loud music. today's opening statements down in florida. >>> plus, a closer look at the jury. >>> a major break in a 25-year-old cold case involving a university of florida student who disappeared while taking a walk. we'll talk to the father of tiffany, he's convinced a serial killer is behind his daughter's disappearance. all that and more coming up next on "newsroom." valve problem. that puts jim at a greater risk of stroke. for years, jim's medicine tied him to a monthly trip to the clinic to get his blood tested

the magic johnsons or the colin powells. we're doing extraordinary things. the anthony foxes.g yesterday about how both of us never knew our dads and shared that sense of both how hard had been but also how that had driven us to succeed in many was. so they're examples of extraordinary achievement. we all know that. we don't need to stereotype and pretend that there's only dysfunction out there. but 50 years after dr. king talked about his dream for america's children, the stubborn fact is that the life chances, the average black or brown child in this country lags behind by almost every measure and is worse for boys and young men. if you're african-american, there's about 1-2 chance you grow up without a father in your house, 1 in 2. if you're latino, you have about 1 in 4 chance. we know of boys who grow up without a father are more likely to be poor, more likely to underperform in school. as a black student you are far less likely than a white student to be able to read proficiently by the time you are in fourth grade. by the time you reach high school, you're far more like

you have general colin powell, mayor rahm emanuel from chicago, michael bloomberg, particularly those two, mayor emanuel has been heavy lit criticized in the education system in chicago, and of course michael bloomberg who has vigorously vehemently out the door defended stop and frisk. what do you make of that? >> it is an odd mix, but we should also recall that in addition to stop-and-frisk, michael bloomberg created an initiative in new york city dealing with young men of color and presumably promoting better life outcomes in education and employment and so on. now, of course, you know, it was a double-edged sword because it was paired with his vocal support and, you know, political backing of stop-and-frisk, which is, you know, terrible public policy. so, you know, six in one hand, half a dozen in the other. i do want to say something else. the real tragedy is this has to be a private initiative. while this is a lot of money of philanthropic dollars, it's not very much in terms of government money. let's be very clear. the life outcomes of young men of color are related to specific

would be -- >> you know what colin powell used to say? you break it, you own it. >> the united states doesn't want to own it. >> excuse me. we broke it and now own it, why do we own it? remember what happened last friday. washington and the european union brokered what they said was a way out. including the president of the country. included new elections in december. included x, z, everyone agreed. foreign minister said great. the next day, the paper had been overthrown by the people in the streets. what does the united states do now that they say we are sorry or never mind? >> ethis trying to put a good face on a terrible situation. you know what else they are doing? now that they have got to cough up 35 billion they are turning to putin and saying remember two weeks ago you offered 15 can we have it now. >> as katrina said it will be -- >> it is a sobering reality. it is a pleasure to have you both here. thank you for coming in. >> >>> turning now to the ongoing crisis in venezuela. have the protesters and the opposition reached a cros

. >> and the teacher, former secretary of state colin powell, joining me to talk about a different side> twist and shout, a look back at the british invasion 50 years later. >> half done at all? >> i had one yesterday. >>

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c-span: wasn't colin powell also and tim wirth? >> guest: i don't know. maybe they were. but tom johnson was one, and you can find them scattered everywhere now, and they are all intently interested in public life and that's a good thing. c-span: a quote from you, this is one of your favorite toasts: " from gen. lafayette to washington, central star of the constellation, may it enlighten the whole world." why do you hold onto that toast? >> guest: it's so much a dream of ours to be an example of democracy, and we fall short of it quite frequently, but i think when the general came back, and he came back on about three ceremonial trips, at the corner of i street he lifted his glass and made it to the city of washington. we were a mud hole of a town then. this is in the 1700s. people might have laughed, and, in fact, it took a long time for great britain to recognize us as a real, worthy country, but it was well-expressed. one time i was working on a toast for the president, and i used those lines because i think it was an underdeveloped country that was here at the time. i

you know, chairman colin powell used to tell us, make military arguments on their merit and let the politiciansually comes out. >> general, then on the substance, then, your views of this kind of reform? >> well, look, the biggest reduction in the armed forces in three-quarters of a century, putting the army back where it was in 1939 when my dad was sworn in prior to world war ii, you can't create a fire department after the fire starts. we're moth balling navy ships, we're standing down all the a-10 ground attacks air force planes, we're slashing the size of the army. this is a budgetary argument, not a national security argument. they need to step back and think what are we actually doing? china's resurgent in the pacific rim, north korea with a sociopath running a country, iranian threats, and by the way, we still got 35,000 troops in combat in afghanistan. >> yeah, so general -- >> -- and we're talking about -- >> pardon the interruption, the argument from secretary hagel is they don't see another large land war. are you saying that has to be a strategic possibility for deployment ability?

colin powell had it right. quite a friendly relationship with mexico across a number of difficult issues like the drug issue or other issues. we do very well. the caller is right on point. these have a big geostrategic component built into an economic agenda. astoundse reality here me. how can nafta have improved relations between the three countries when we had to build a 3000 mile fence along the border to keep out mexicans? it was not there before the agreement was put in place. it is a striking comparison with presidentic and host: obama travels to mexico to meet with his mexican and canadian counterparts. the headline in what the washington post." it will be a quick trip and he will go there for the annual summit and return to washington later this evening. middleton, new jersey, democratic caller -- morning, the trifecta has been our trade policy, our tax policy, and a disregard of our regulations and enforcement for them. yes, wages do matter. for my industry, the fashion industry, it started with cafta.

. >> colin powell on this program said there was a dark vein of intolerance within the republican party. do you believe that's the case? >> i don't. the gop has become the great opportunity party. i look at how i became a republican and the messages that i heard and received very early on as a kid running for county council in my 20s. one of the things that changed my life was meeting amen tore, a conservative republican at the time. i didn't know, didn't care whether he was republican or democrat. but he took the time over four years to start talking to me about there's a way out of poverty that doesn't include athletics or entertainment. that you have an opportunity through thinking, through business ownership, having a job is a good thing. if you create jobs, you be better and your community gets better. and so the first blush i had with politics as a kid at 16 years old, 15 years old was a conservative guy who thought that the future could be very bright for a kid in a single parent household if he had the right tools, the right equipment. he didn't convince me on one side of the ai

colin powell and the bush administration laid it on thick trying to get the west and failed in many ways, the president to deliver on what he promised. now the country swung back towards russia, towards viktor yanukovych, who was the opponent way back then. the question for the u.s. is this massive country that sits between russia and eastern euro europe as well, vital to the identity and russia's political orbit. does it move towards moscow or the u.s.? the u.s. wants the latter to happen. many ukrainians want that happen, too. and the wider issue at stake here is the influence over different parts of the european continent. that is what is playing out here. the u.s. has taken their eyes off the ball in the last few months. the russians have shown and that's why yanukovych was able to go in the direction because they've offered billions of cash to bail the economy out and keep people in jobs, frankly. so i think that's what we're seeing play out here. we haven't heard the same strident statements that we heard back in 2004 from the white house yet but if this violence continues, we may

>> it's not every day, don, that we have colin powell and magic johnson and all these wonderful young men in the same room. i talked to a senior white house official earlier today who said this show of force from that community, from the african-american community, really touched this president, really connected with him. and i don't know if you noticed, don, but people here at the white house noticed, the president was speaking off the cuff during a large portion of his remarks today. he was ad libbing a lot of those remarks. because a lot of it, this was coming from the heart. this is not the president obama that we see every day tangling with republicans up on capitol hill, warning vladamir putin, no provocative actions when it comes to ukraine. this was a president who had a chance to say to the civil rights community yes, i know you've been saying to me i need to pay attention to this part of our community, and i think that is what the president wanted to lay out and accomplish today and i think he did it. >> jim, thank you. that's perfect setup now to boyce watkins. i'm going to

leaders including colin powell, henry kissinger, warren christopher, robert gates, david petraeus have all said closing the detention center at guantanamo is critical, critical to our national security. again, i have no illusions regarding these detainees. some are extremely dangerous terrorists with the determination and ability if given the opportunity into flict great harm on the united states and its citizens. but indeed props in the united states are holding many of the world's most dangerous terrorists, criminals found guilty in a court of law. these include ramsey yousef, the mastermind of the 199 world trade center center, zacarias muscatatuck, the 9/11 coconspirator, richard reid. if we can hold these in our prisons we can do the same with the guantanamo detainees. so in closing, mr. president, i think it's long past due that we reexamine our policy toward cuba. i call upon our obama administration to not waste any more time, get to it, let's change our policy. let's start making new history. not be detained by the old history. and secondly, it's time that we close the prison