and colin powell -- it was like, "man, if i can get colin powell."ie foxx." [ laughter ] >> jimmy: he wouldn't even look -- >> "i don't want any part of that molasses." [ laughter ] "i don't want any part of that basketball or whatever you guys are doing up there." [ laughter ] >> jimmy: basketball. that's not what it's called. >> "you're happy eating chicken. i don't want any of that." [ laughter ] "happy listening to hip-hop and all of that kind of stuff." [ laughter ] "you know, jamie foxx is a pin head get away from me, jamie foxx." [ laughter ] >> jimmy: no, he's kidding. say you're kidding. >> i'm kidding! that's what i said. i'm kidding. i'm kidding. i love bill o'reilly. i'm joking, man. i'm kidding. >> jimmy: i know. i know. you're a comedian. >> i have a movie over at fox. >> jimmy: i know. please. [ laughter ] >> i do. i have a movie. "rio." "rio 2" is on fox. >> jimmy: that's right. >> so, you know, it's all connected. >> jimmy: it's all connected somehow. but you know what i have to say. you're just a very talented guy. i know you know t

and that must not stand. >> colin powell was chairman of the joint chiefs at the time and had problemsesident bush going out and talking about hitler and things like that because he knew it was such a camouflage. this is a mask to get the american people's support. the first gulf war was all about oil. >> the horror of 9/11. ten years after the gulf war. impels the first president bush's son to go to war. he first launches a retaliatory war in afghanistan. but then quickly puts three other nations on notice. north korea, iran, and iraq. >> states like these and their terrorist allies constitute an axis of evil arming to threaten the peace of the world. by seeking weapons of mass destruction, these regimes pose a grave and growing danger. >> all three nations have been on america's national security radar for decades. but now after 9/11, the bush administration makes the case for action to disarm them. it is not just the threat of rogue states using weapons of mass destruction, themselves, the president argues but the rogue state providing biological or nuclear weapons technology to ter

and that must not stand. >> colin powell was chairman of the joint chiefs at the time and had problemsident bush going out and talking about hitler and things like that because he knew it was such a camouflage. this is a mask to get the american people's support. the first gulf war was all about oil. >> the horror of 9/11. ten years after the gulf war. impels the first president bush's son to go to war. he first launches a retaliatory war in afghanistan. but then quickly puts three other nations on notice. north korea, iran, and iraq. >> states like these and their terrorist allies constitute an axis of evil arming to threaten the peace of the world. by seeking weapons of mass destruction, these regimes pose a grave and growing danger. >> all three nations have been on america's national security radar for decades. but now after 9/11, the bush administration makes the case for action to disarm them. it is not just the threat of rogue states using weapons of mass destruction, themselves, the president argues but the rogue state providing biological or nuclear weapons technology to terro

colin powell is one and there were so many people i met who were helpful. i was a very lucky person. people say it's what you make of it. that's baloney. my brother was shot down in an airplane with 11 soldiers. he was the only one that survived. they sent them to the military combat and i was one of those two seem like the wind was at our backs when we started. but i have to tell you that all along the way i have been tours. they had been successful in their lives and have transform transformed. >> i have a thousand more questions tha but book there isa microphone somewhere. we always like someone to come up and start asking questions. so just designate the things that bernie has been talking about so that your own curiosity. yes, here. >> what are you the most bullish about and what are you the most concerned about? >> about the economy. i think that we have recovered very slowly from the situations in 2008, that we are recovering. we are recovering not what we are doing but from the general development. a fundamental improvement. i read in the paper the

will -- colin powell was the chief military adviser. he did say over and over again that genetic activity has the way to spin out-of-control you inherited a military machine that is very much on the march and watch that carefully. that was the animating idea really throughout his presidency so that is where it started. i will toss it back. >> we both recognize the danger and eisenhower warned us against the national security state or military industrial complex but we ended up with one it was well established. i would say he has tried to be careful about the nsa but with its growth of homeland security it has swelled immensely during his time. . . increase national security apparatus. >> eisenhower is fascinating because although he was a creature of the military, spent his life in the military serving as officer. he was very wary of the military. he fought wars, everything that could go wrong, you think of him as a great conquering hero he spent a lot of time disciplineing awol soldiers. at one point in world war ii he wanted to line u

business people he's worked with, colin powell said he had as much integrity as any contractor at the pentagon that they dealt with, president clinton, secretary of state clinton, a remarkable group of people. and it has to do with human qualities that he has learned in his life. growing up, as he would say, and the kind of life he's had knowing heads of state around the world. so i want to begin with understanding this life he has lived and at the same time understanding his own analysis of people and also his assessment of where this country is today, in march of 2014. clearly, he has ideas about america's infrastructure, how to create jobs and all those things from a lifetime in public and private sector. i want to, also, each of you to know that this will work best if what he says resonates and you have sort of yes, but questions or you have things that you would like to say vis-a-vis to him, with him and the lessons learned. let me just begin with the thing that interests me also is negotiation. he's been a superb negotiator, and how do you do that? is the secret simply being abl

you were colin powell chief of staff during that time. paul o'neill who was george bush's secretary of the treasury. told sixty minutes steve kroft one of the guys at sixty minutes that and ron suskind wrote about it as book the price of loyalty that the very first cabinet meeting he was in the first topic that came up towards the fact of the first topic that came up was the iraq war here's here's paul o'neill's. the very beginning there was their conviction that saddam hussein was a bad person and that he needed to go he says that going after saddam hussein was topic eight ten days after the inauguration eight months before september eleventh but that is that your experience as well as my experience in terms of the research i've done since i left office my first inclination of the focus on iraq was one richard haass then ambassador richard haass director of policy planning at state. i was a staff member came into his office and said i just talked to condi we're going to war with iraq and all of us you know picked our jaws up off the tabl

because colin powell had the very good sense not to give them to me. c-span: but they're the civilians around the president? >> guest: yes. some civilians within the white house around the president, people in the national security council. i don't know if they're back-bench aides that he was referring to. colin was relaying to me what was going on in washington as well. we were trading information freely back and forth. but when this mcclellan thing got up, i got particularly burned because, first of all, this guy that watches the pbs series and now all of a sudden he is schooled in the operational arts and is going to explain to schwarzkopf how to run war. but more importantly, the guy was so stupid, whoever it was, he didn't understand that there was a big difference. mcclellan outnumbered lee by about 10 to1, and the iraqis outnumbered us by about 3 to1 at the particular time that this happened, so it was an entirely different situation. so i said to colin, "who is the s.o.b. that said that? i'd like to know. i'll call him up on the telephone and t

from business people like norm augustine at lockheed martin he spoke in the highest terms and colin powell said he has had integrity in the pentagon they

another word thrown around race baiting, colin powell was called a race baiter because he said some of the criticism is racist. i don't think anyone thinks he is a liberal activity. that proves that term is thrown out around too in race baiting. >> you have to agree a o'reilly. he is making sense when we saw on the clip that he said that people didn't like to go after the black guy today but after the attorney general and i think the controversies that we cover, the controversies as we call them, are ginned up because people don't like what eric holder or anyone else a person of color has to say it is automatically a race issue in the media which then spreads. >> i am not saying he shouldn't be criticized but if you go back to the first answer it is cat nip and everyone pounces and that fuels cable ratings. >> now, a slighter topic that stuns me with all of the political news about chelsea's baby, announcing she is pregnant and you have all of the smart analysts saying, what is the impact of this on 2016, and are we perhaps analyzing what ought to be routine joyous occasion that a daug

let's turn to colin powell live from kabul. >> previous elections here in afghanistan were plagued by voter fraud. significant improvement the violence was minimal. there were some attacks. at least one person killed and several others injured, but the violence promised by the taliban to disrupt this election seems not to have materialized at all. voter fraud is the big worry going forward. one top candidate said there is reproof of voter fraud here in afghanistan. that did blemish the previous election in 2009. three of the top candidates here in afghanistan are vying of a pool of eight to replace hamid karzai. the top three are considered the three main candidates. all three have vowed to improve the relationship with the west, particularly the united states. all three have said they would sign the bilateral security agreement that president karzai so far has refused to sign. if elected, they would sign that agreement. they said in the first days and weeks of their administration, that would set in motion the pentagon announcing probably somewhere in the force of about 10,000 to 15,

. >> how about colin powell? >> condoleezza rice.you know eric holder, unfortunately i say with disappointment the president of the united states used race card as a political weapon of mass destruction. >> this administration is questioning on a lot of lawlessness and lies about benghazi, the nsa and irs. lies about health care. you know, seems anyone there is questioning it. is this the, i guess, way to intimidate people into silence? playing the race card? >> i won't go that far. i can understand there are folks out there, i can understand you, sean, upset how the administration handled benghazi or the irs. i think what the attorney general is al you'ding to, that no attorney general ever went through this type of treatment. >> that is false. go back and check what is looking at videotape. >> excuse me. >> there has never been administration as lawless as this one. look at what jonathan turley, liberal, george wash university law professor says we're at a constitutional tipping point. a >> are they as lawless of dick cheney identi

he obviously didn't learn colin powell's rule, you break it you own it.eign investment is drying up. he's trying to borrow money on the international market. we should dry that up. president obama says we are ready to tee them up. yes, it will hurt u.s. firms in the short term and make it harder for u.s. to get fuel in the short term and longer term it will stop this man and be far less expensive and save a lot of lives >> in the short term, that gas station mccain calls it from russia dries up it will really hurt countries like germany and central europe who rely on that energy exports. >> there are other sources. >> in the short term. >> in the short term, yes, it will hurt. in the longer term, it will help. let's remember we have these newfound gas resources in america and if we are smart about this, next year, we're going to start exporting lng from houston. over the near term we can become the gas station and fuel station and think about cleaner better fuels for europe and that will help build jobs in america and secure us against tyrants like putin

race card and race baiting, colin powell, one of the greatest men who served our country was called a race baiter because he said some of the criticism of the president is racist. i don't think anyone thinks secretary powell is a crazy liberal activist. >> you have to agree with bill o'reilly. he's making sense when we saw on the clip that he said, that people didn't decide to go after the black guy today. they decided to go after the attorney general. i think that the controversies that we cover, the controversies as we call them, are ginned up, because people don't like what eric holder or anybody else who's a person of color has to say. it automatically becomes this race issue in the media which then explodes. >> if eric holder wanted to be a hero to republicans, he could look into solyndra and benghazi, for example. he won't do it for some strange reason. >> i'm not saying he shouldn't be criticized but to go back to your first answer, it seems like cat nip, everybody pounces on it and the argument itself fuels cable ratings. >>> i want to turn to a slightly lighter topic but one

. >> how about colin powell? >> yes. >> condoleezza rice. it's a vicious double standard. to use the race card as a political weapon of mass destruction. >> richard, i have to be honest. those are legitimate questions. this administration has a lot of lawlessness. lies about the irs and health care that they sold to the american people. is this the way to intimidate people into silence, to play the race card? >> i wouldn't go that far. i can understand you, sean, being upset about how they handle benghazi or the irs. no attorney general has ever went through this type of treatment. >> excuse me. that's false. go back and check. let's look at the videotape. excuse me. excuse me. there's never been any administration as lawless as this one. look at george washington university law professor saying we're at a constitutional tipping point because of the abuse of power. >> real quick. richa richard, jackie robinson was a wonderful example. he had far more obstacles than this president and never complained. he was a man of courage. i met with cliven bundy and his wonderful famil

geneva because one of the questions the famous pottery barn rule of former us secretary of state colin powell union going two story brick something you own it. kramer now and is willing to put up the cash two metallic ukraine what the new craze on friday the people of ukraine to begin with. but i think it's important to understand that russia does have an interest the ukraine to clean his two partners in crime. it should be recognized and awarded a week to accommodate the interest on the planet it's quite clear that ukraine is the sovereign independent nation. so what happens in geneva. well did you think you should find some kind of solution built to be presidential elections a referendum of on an eventual solution to the existing issue because i do not think that people want right now running the government and people are up fully capable of governing ukraine. i don't think that people in this building is fully capable of deciding the fate of the he's part of ukraine. i do read each other's me ask you who are you in favor of the us presidential elections going for a scheduled for next month

campaign and the transition and early months of the obama presidency, obama was talking a lot about colin powell who was a cheap military adviser. i am not sure he talked about l klawchwtiz the decidua obama over and over again that kinetic activity as he put it has a way of spinning out of control. very hard to control it. you have to be very careful. you can in paramilitary machine that is very much on the march and you have to watch that carefully and that was a kind of animating idea for obama throughout his presidency and for that, that is where it started. i will toss it back to steven. >> you both recognize this danger and eisenhower warned us against the development of the national security state or military-industrial complex that we ended up with one. at end of his term the national security state was well established. as for obama i would say he has tried to be careful about the growth of the national security agency but there is growth and homeland security, swelled immensely during his time so both of these reluctant cautious presidents came to a vastly increase national security ap

his view of colin powell talking about yellow cake aluminum -- or excuse me, uranium. to me, this tells me that bush is in a way covering his tracks yet again. painting is a way to know yourself and know the world. that was the bizarre hope i had for this strange president. but what he's done is he's taken the exact opposite path. instead of knowing himself more, he knows that he cannot know himself. so he's kind of shutting off the real truth. a picture of rove, rumsfeld, cheney. that would be intense. and he knows it. he knows it would show too much of how bad it got. >> right. and in a sense, that aspect, coming from a successful politician like himself, is not that surprising, because he's always had an ability to craft a narrative, regardless of the facts or the record. you see that in the libraries, these presidents often build for themselves. you see it in the biographies they write after the presidency. art being something more abstract, but to your point, really hits some of those same themes. jerry saltz, "new york" magazine, thank you. this was an interestin

you can bring out colin powell. perhaps a better role model.- will they resonate like puffy? absolutely not. >> that is group of people who are already graduating from school. certainly the audience doesn't need a message about the importance of finishing college. that's something they checked the box off. i think you don't give honor rather degrees to reward people who are under appreciated or at least that's not always what they're about. most of the kinds of success are their own reward. sonja sodermeyor doesn't need an honor rather degree to feel good about herself. they give, it first of all, to honor huge achievement, and also because they want to bring people back who can serve as role models and who serve as a good example. >> i hear that, and it reminds me of another one of your favorite rap groups who said money, power, respect, what you need in life, and that's the josh barrow way. up next, we have a fight over food and a term you are going to need to remember. gmo. as the cycle rolls on. we did a 27-point inspection on your chevy,ce

i add that colin powell put it bluntly when he spoke in north carolina to a group of businessmen, on the restrictive voter i.d. law, he says there is no voter fraud, there is none. and all the voter i.d. laws that have been passed since the supreme court decision last year limiting the voting rights act are intended for one purpose and that's to suppress non-white voters, and that remains a part of unfinished business in our politics. >> woodruff: when we're talking about voting, and it's this year, of course the mid-term election 2016, it's never too soon to talk about that. two prominent maybe candidates, former florida governor jeb push repeating his support for immigration reform and the common core which we heard jeff's conversations about. conservatives juferred on him. what does that mean in do you think he's going to run? what's your thinking about jeb bush? >> i personally don't think he'll run, just a guess, based on no knowledge, simply because he's not shown intense desire in the past. i've never seen a candidate where that intense desire flowers in middle age. you're bor

and janet choice would be colin powell. she writes, he is the only gop person who makes sense.an leave your thoughts at facebook.com/c-span or on twitter using hastag c-span chat. tomorrow on "washington journal," we will hear more about the speakers at the freedom summit and public opinion going to the elections this fall with democratic and republican strategist stefan han kellyanne conway. then we will talk about the latest of elements and ukraine. and then a senior correspondent with government executive magazine will talk about raises for government staff members and benefits. all of that tomorrow on "washington journal starting at 7:00 a.m. eastern >> there is no question that andress routinely administrations routinely do not speak the truth to the american public. and it is not just about in accuracies in terms of the affordable health care act. it's the absence of speaking the truth about where we are. where are we? a standard of living the same as what we had in 1988. unfundeave per family, that needs to be spoken so that for theuild the contact tough things that are

i think of colin powell -- the government at all levels and institutions that to be part of this. in terms of numbers, people, families, seems to be an enormous potential to do something very difficult. the village movement which i think is -- >> i think you are correct. all of us really want to be able to allow individuals to have to make those decisions to be able to have the right decisions and be able to stay at their home. community health services wherever they have to be to get the services. we are trying to find the right answers and i think the white paper really set the framework for that. it is going to direct us and i think that is what we intend to do as a committee. >> [indiscernible] >> it has to be a federal and state partnership. the states cannot do it alone. i was the governor a lot longer than i was secretary and for 15 years, every state is really laboring under the cost of medicaid right now. we got to find a way to handle that situation but it has to be a partnership of the federal government and we cannot just say the states are going to be able to do it. i

. >> you look at general colin powell who went to the united nations and was relying information received from the community. weapons of mass destruction. the same thing with susan rice, she relied of liberation given at the time. she went through a tough time when she was really responding to what information's she got. there are a lot of lessons to learn here. >> yes, sir. >> yield back. >> mr. don barry, thank mr. mr. chairman and mr. morale, thank you for being here, your years of service. i want to try to understand better the deputies meeting in the 15th and your subsequent edits to the talking points. were you all having daily deputies meetings at this time? >> yes, sir. we were having twice daily. >> serve twice a day on the 13th, the 14th, the 15th you would have these video conference meetings in which you participated as a deputy for the cia. >> that's correct. >> and i presume there would be a deputy from state and defense as well as members of the white house national security council staff. >> fbi, doj, in ctc. yes, sir. >> okay debut so as we review the e-mails of the night

. >> if you look at chairman colin powell who went to the united nations and was relying on information received from the community about weapons of mass destruction in iraq and the same thing with susan rice. she went through a tough time when she was responding to what information she got so there are a lot of lessons to be learned here. >> yes sir. >> mr. thornberry. >> thank you mr. chairman and mr. morell thank you for being here in your years of service to the cia. i wanted to stand that are the deputies meeting on the 13th and your subsequent edits to the talking points. were you all having daily deputy meetings at this time? >> yes sir we were having twice daily deputy meetings. >> so twice a day on the 13th on the 14th of the 15th you would have these videoconference meetings in which you participated as a deputy for the cia? >> that's correct. >> i assume there would you deputy from state and defense as well as members of the white house national security staff. >> via the i, doj, nctc. >> so as we reviewed the e-mails e-mails -- let me backup back up for just a minute. as bes

the interesting thing was the secretary of state, colin powell who is a terrific chairman of the joint chiefs of staff what to president bush and i think maybe even president bush's father as well. but definitely secretary powell and fanfare, we have to go to the congress. we should go to the congress and the united nations. they did go to the congress and the united nations. so pleasant just president bush. we all as the country went into iraq and then you get into the funny things about politicians or later, senator kerry who is our secretary of state that, while, i was against the war before i was in favor of the word before it is against the war. it is one of those things that have to with 2020 fish and we could say was the wrong thing to do, but we all did it together. >> host: mustapha how to treat studio can you explain more about the black problem in the non-that you mentioned earlier? >> guest: the whole notion of a forget what it's called, students for the democratic society, the military was not immune and from everything affecting on the campuses in the united states. in 19

. >> you look at general colin powell who went to the united nations and was relying on information received from the community and about what was weapons of mass destruction in iraq. the same with susan rice. then she went through a tough time when she was really responding to what information she got. so there's a lot of lessons to learn here. >> yes, sir. >> yield back. >> mr. thornberry. >> thank you mr. chairman and mr. morell and for your years of service to the c.i.a. i want to understand better the deputy's meeting and your edits to the talking points. were you having daily meetings at this time? >> yes, sir. we were having twice daily deputy meetings. >> so twice a day on the 13, 14, 15 you would have these video conference meetings in which you participated as the deputy for the c.i.a. >> that's correct. >> and i presume there would be a deputy from state and defense as well as members of the white house national security council staff. >> f.b.i., doj, nctc. yes, sir. >> ok. so as we reviewed the e-mails of the night of the -- let me back up for just a second. on the -- as best you

chairman used to be a lobbyist for these companies and the last of c c chairman colin powell son michael is now the head of the lobbying firm for the that's right the revolving door spins both weights and we're seeing it with if so you see it's the poster child abuse of the revolving door right now we have tom wheeler who came from the national cable television association that he regulates this provides the regulated body from basically capturing the ages i want ramos who says he's in favor of net neutrality who campaigned on it who is recently as january promised that we would have net neutrality put a guy like this in charge this is this is a classic example of bundu influence in washington he who pays the piper calls the tune we don't have a democracy we have it all again exactly and when we talk about the common you know think about developers to write who buy what and buy a lot of political influence in towns and states across the country and set up strip. here we have the internet which was the town square which is a place where everybody is able to get their views across and hear

country on the planet anything you need susan writes represent a matter of fact susan rice was there colin powellis there there was a a major delegation from the nine it states donald payne the late donald payne congressman donald payne and all the united nations they all mean these mean these these promises to the people and the government of south sudan and and now what's going on well now as when they really need that support now what's going on is use pointed out machar who is a former deputy of the government he was i think either the number two man or very close to the top salva kiir who we both met and talked to the president and there is a power struggle now this power struggle maybe even more dangerous than believe it or not than the civil war primarily because these were allies who had fought a twenty five years civil war these are individual effen a group said live very close to each other it would be as if we're neighbors so it's a war that's absolutely right and so what happens is that. those military personnel that are loyal to cheer. have are out fighting the military personnel tha