information on the still-classified report, the report concludes that the agency kept secretary of state colin powell as well as some u.s. ambassadors in the dark about the harsh techniques and secret prisons, and that some of the ambassadors informed about inter guyings of al qaeda detainees at black sites were instructed not to tell their superiors at the state department. the a.p. also reveals that while the report does not draw the legal conclusion that the cia's actions constituted torture, it makes clear that in some cases those actions amount to torture by a common definition. the timing of the declassification will be up to senator dianne feinstein. joining me now is senior national security and

one of the conclusions was that colin powell when secretary of state was kept pretty much in the dark in the initial planning on this policy. the enhanced interrogation techniques by the white house led by the cia and some people in the vice president's office. what more do we know about the evolution of this document? it's about to come out. >> well, it's about to come out. i guess the interesting news today is that this cia inspector general's report has come out that says the cia improperly

according to the aca, a report says that colin powell and ambassadors were not told about the secret prisons. a former senior c.i.a. official says that that did know were told to say nothing to the state department superiors. >> new information on the funding of al qaeda. according to the "new york times", the group is raising money from ransoms, and european countries are paying the most. >> reporter: images like these of hostages held at gunpoint are weapons. the "new york times" says kidnappings like these account for half the group's revenue. gen vating 100 million -- generating 100 million. spain and austria paid over 14 million, and ransoms are rising. kidnappers received 200,000 per hostage. they get now up to $10 million. governments shouldn't pay ransoms. >> they are paying for their systems to be released, and it will result in the citizens of other countries being killed. european governments deny paying ransoms, but often the money is sent through affiliates. >> ner going to use the -- they are going to use the money to launch attacks, and they launch attacks and kill oth

colin powell was eventually informed about harsh techniques including waterboarding, but he apparently was not informed when they were first used in 2002. the report was accidentally e-mailed to the "associated press" by the white house. >>> and the senate is blasting the vote in the white house for suing president obama for allegedly overstepping his authority. the lawsuit will focus on the president's health care overhaul law. >>> democrats say it's a political stunt and kansas city yesterday before the vote, the president called on congress to start doing its job. >> stop being mad all the time. stop stop hating all the time. >> well, there's no timetable for actually filing suit and it could take longer to resolve than the president's term. >>> and republican lawmakers believe newly released e-mails are proof the irs tash investigated conservative groups. in them a former irs official accused in the scandal called some right-winged republicans, quote, crazies. chip reid tells us the next steps lawmakers could try to take to prove their case. now they believe they have a smoking gun

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and so, what are we talking about, the former colin powell, with the u.s.nd the soviet union, the former soviet union, that provided all kinds of weapons and training, kind of across the world. and now we're talking about the culpability of russia. i get that this is more proximate. but how is this at putin's door step? why is this case different than simply saying, this is about the general old existing relationship? >> well, it's not about this old existing relationship. i think we make it about the old existing relationship. but this is a new relationship. and i actually disagree. i have to say this is a very good case against putin and against the kremlin and against the way he runs foreign policy or domestic policy or any policy for that matter. because he's culpable. he does support those rebels. instead of saying fine, russia is involved one way or another. i agree, they did not -- i mean, it's hard to imagine, and we actually know from transcripts that they did not give the direct order that the rebels actually did think of themselves as the heroes,

report says secrets about post-9/11 cia interrogations were kept from then secretary of state colin powelllso reveals that some informed personnel were instructed not to tell their superiors at the state department about certain interrogations. >>> and new e-mails are revealed in the investigation of former irs official lois lerner. she wrote to a friend, calling republicans crazies, "so we don't need to worry about alien terrorists. it's our own crazies that will take us down." now, that friend also referred to talk radio and the quote "wacko wing of the gop" to which lerner responded, "great, maybe we are through if there are that many" blanks. you can fill in the blank there. >>> john kerry takes a break from diplomacy to go shopping. 43 writes all about 41. and stephen colbert buys up sarah palin. we'll explain. "scrambled politics" is next. renews surface cells to even skin tone. in just two weeks, see pearlescent, luminous skin. regenerist luminous. olay. your best beautiful. i will always be brilliant, never dull. new olay regenerist luminous facial oil. with 9 lightweight oils that

--colin powell said it was a threat to commercial airliners.we have had more concerned about the budget. congress in the house has moved more toward an anti-regulatory stance. they don't want to them pose new rules on businesses. likely -- unless are aing happens -- we reactive culture. likely toe much more mandate this kind of thing you if there was a successful attack on a u.s. airline. the other issue is even if we do put commercial airline defenses on these planes, you're not going to be able to address the kind of thing that happened with the malaysian airliner. that makes it even more unlikely. your only addressing part of the threat. maybe it is most likely, nationstates usually have these types of systems unless they wind up in the hands of separatists. you're not talking about that kind of threat happening to these commercial airliners. you're talking more about the lower-level threats. host: who gets the contracts? what companies work in the space? guest: it is almost entirely the traditional defense contractors. as the department of

there is word the report says the agency kept top officials including secretary of state colin powell in the dark about interrogation and detention practices following the 9/11 attacks. the report finds harsh techniques did not help disrupt future terrorist attacks. >>> 4:41 now. it is the largest recorded outbreak of the deadly ebola virus. how the peace corps is responding to this medical emergency. >> and what's cool about your school or perhaps your summer camp? you can email your nomination to us at coolschools@kpix.com. we may come and feature your school or camp on the show. we'll be right back. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,, be quarantined to contain t ebola outbreak. an ports some americans >>> in liberia schools are being closed and communities could be quarantined to contain the ebola outbreak. david begnaud reports some americans have the disease and others are being evacuated out of an area. >>> reporter: the largest recorded outbreak of ebola is spreading in africa. some 340 u.s. peace corps volunteers have been evacuated from three west african countries out of an abundance of caution.

it says the agency initially kept then secretary of state colin powell and some us ambassadors in the dark about interrogation techniques in secret prisons. >>> liberia says it will close schools and possibly quarantine communities in an attempt to stop the ebola. this comes as the peace corps evacuates its volunteers from the region. close to 700 people have died. >>> police are looking for suspects in a shooting last night in hyattsville. three teenage boys were approached by three men along 30th street. one of the men pulled a gun and shot two of the teenagers. the 13 ran away before the shots started. both victims are being treated at local hospitals. >>> it is a little different out there. slowly transitioning from this very dry, cool, crisp air back to more typical summer mid- atlantic july, august stuff. this morning watching some showers which passed overnight into pennsylvania. a few of them slipped into northern maryland. there was just enough moisture left over to cause some fog to form especially in hagerstown, cumberland. we've seen visibilities now down to zero. hagersto

>> i always like to go back to colin powell's favorite description of putin when he and george bush jrd their first meeting and bush said i looked into his eyes and saw a man i could deal about, powell said, "i looked in his eyes, plrningts and all i saw was k.g.b." people tend to underestimate him because he knows how to push and stop at the right moment. and he's being told in russia by people that he better be careful how far he goes. reserves are still around $500 billion but you have a lot of money flowing out and if we have another round of sanctions, it's not just so much the effect of the sanctions directly, it's the loss of of confidence in russia and people moving their money out and not wanting to invest so he's got to be very careful how he pushes this but the wets -- west is not very united on this. the united states wants to go tougher. europe is very decide -- divided. poland, some of the baltecks and other eastern countries want to be tougher. the italians, definitely not and a lot of german business does not want sangss at all. -- sanctions at all. >> let's hear from f

colin powell.es there's a historical reality but there's a big difference between always pointing at structural issues and taking some personal responsibility. and that's where people get in trouble. i don't know, gregory i'm sure you'll mock this. that's the way i feel. >> by the way what's up with costas. he's becoming a feisty little guy. >> i know somebody like that. >> he yelled at me in the green room a couple of months ago because i got something wrong about him. he was right by the way. anyway, he's talking about greater issue where words become mistaken for deeds which scares people. people won't speak their mind for fear of being called racist. people can now assume your intent or misconstrue your intent without actually knowing what you're thinking. everybody is now a mind reader and say oh, when you're talking about poverty you're saying blacks are inferior. when you talk about crimes, when you talk about gangs you're saying blacks are violent. people can misconstrue your beliefs. that

"buzz feed", suggestions of what the administration should do, saying: >>> you're calling for colin powell for a bigger and more together. >> here is the thing. we know, and to his credit secretary of state john kerry understands this. james cary said "i'm down with call." >> we are the only external influencer over there. there's a great myth over there on every side. i've sat through music through binyamin netanyahu and advisors, and make them do it. >> we can't make them do it. we have huge influence. as the only exerciser, when we pulled bark, it looks -- pulled back, it looks to the leadership and the people that we don't think there's a possibility for a good outcome. if we pull back and indicate that, that inflames tensions. there's a point to engagement for engagement stake. >> you thing it may escalate. >> the secretary made an all-outest, superintendent a lot of time, didn't produce results. >> we are seeing what is happening in iraq, there's tensions in egypt, syria is a mess. the middle east is a powder keg. how dangerous is the situation region? >> the situation - as we said,

1839, and before pope, and president obama got into the game, other famous people took selfies, colin powellbuzz alall drent that was --ald ren this one was out of this world, there has to be economic angles. over 1 million selfies are taken a day. facebook gets lion's share 48%. whats app 20%. twitter 9%, instagram 8%, snap chat and pi pinterest pulling up the rear, but selfie thing has legs, that means, it will generate investment opportunities, let's talk about it with the crew. all right, law talk about this with the professionals selfie phenomena. a huge thing, we know a big social media thing, how do we make money on nars sim sis emgoe wild? >> all advertisers, remember ellen degeneres. that was product placement according to ceo, advertising firm that was hired by samsung, they had 1 billion dollars worth of advertiseing revenue that came in. that was from that one selfie. >> selfies that have seen should not be shown on tv, i am going another way, i think -- >> these are selfies that people send to you or cyberspace. >> i'm just saying, kim kardashian that stuff, i am about food, i w

. >> colin powell. >> and made a compelling argument that saddam hussein had weapons of mass destruction. >> which turned out to be wrong. >> which turned out to be wrong. but faced with the same scenario again, the most highly respected man in america literally making that case, i would have made the same judgment and cast the same vote. now, also the fact is we did have it won. also what i find totally lacking in the media is they accept this idea that it was all the iraqi's fault that we didn't leave a residual force behind. >> jon stewart took a shot at you. >> john mccain, he was on so many shows you'd think he just won "dancing with the stars." >> you've been on "the daily show." is jon stewart fair to republicans? >> no. but it doesn't matter really. he's a comedian -- >> also a social critic who has a viceable following among young people. >> he's a very entertaining and funny guy. but when he says things which he's entitled to -- after all, he's a late night comic, that are absolutely wrong. he gets away with it. it is what it is. i frankly have no beef with late night comedians

officials including then secretary of state colin powell. ambassadors who knew about the practices were told not to tell their superiors at the state department. >> ukraine's department approving more military after a day long pause in fighting. the investigators will get access to the site where malaysia airlines flight 17 crashed two weeks ago. we have more from donetsk. >> the ukrainian parliament in kiev agreed that 700 law enforcement officers and international investigators, some of them armed, obviously including large dutch and australian contingents should take control of the crash site with full authority for one year while they carry out an investigation as to how malaysia airlines flight 17 was shot down and while they look for the dozens of human remains which are still believed to be in and around the site. now, this is all very well in theory, how it translates in practice to the reality of east he were ukraine where there is a war underway on the ground is not so clear. investigators have been trying to reach the site for sev

. >> great video, there is a great clip of colin powell doing back in the 90s, and he was caught doing made dollars request. he still there today. very, you know -- >> fun. >> pretty cool song. >> this last one, from 200 the nine. >> black eyed piece, i have a feeling. >> who doesn't like that song? >> i know! >> about to go out on the weekend, play the song, it sets the tone. >> i will say this, though. i always feel like i could have written that song. >> i got a feeling that tonight's going to be a good night? >> you snow. >> the lyrics. >> well -- you should get on. that will that's good song, feels good, you just want to dance, like summertime. >> do you play any of those songs on hot 107.9, q? >> no, no. >> not today anyway. >> snow spice girls. >> yes, playing the mack reason, a play crazy town. we'll be tuning in, then, thanks. wedding wednesday, if you are getting married, the big day, so expensive b, few things that you may not have thought of to save for. coming up, the top five hidden wedding costs. >> if you want to keep your budget net check, midst start looking for weddi

so we went to study what made that program work i interviewed 100 former.ñ white house fellows colin powelley clark, jay-z penney, levi strauss i did a survey with 82% response rate with an amazing experience. and it builds a leadership development program malo -- models for college students i was invited to assume the presidency of gordon. michael said we are excited but i have a question whose intellectual property is that study? [laughter] i said it is part of my research. he said i thought you would say that. so we went to gordon and built the program the only one model for college students and we believed deeply in opportunities. it doesn't matter what happens by age 20 but between 20 and 40 is when people to have the upward trajectory to sharpen that ankle and go on to assume significant positions of responsibility in their chosen vocation. in addition to institutional leadership also will be call symbolic leadership. it is interesting i did not realize how much leadership depends on the ability to lead with your life. so much of what's a leader does is how low they represent themselv

>> probably would have if you look with colin powell and secretary of the state. >> but what would have had been at that point now the war is breaking up because we had abandoned our relationship with iraq. man with a chinese and europe and leading to a conflagration. >> with the competing attorney on the balance of good force in the world? >> yes. >> thank joe. >> your witness. >> dinesh said the vietnam war was ill promised and should not have been fought? >> on balance i would have done why president eisenhower did. >> but you are in fact, in favor of what we have today? digest. the mission of i iraq was to oppose saddam hussein then provide the opportunity to roll back the forces of civil war and provide the opportunity for iraq to govern itself but what most of the press does not cover because they cover brigade spears something that is more important is that iraq freed 30 million people that voted three times and prime minister maliki is actually a second place candidate but those that had never voted before that started the way toward democracy that we should have supported more.

colin powell was a great source of advice about people and situations as we often asked him and he was in communication also with the president about what he thought and condoleezza rice even though she was my e immediate predecessor and was very sensitive not to be interfering because i understand that, not with my successor, but she was always available when i needed to talk to her and i knew warren christopher and madeleine albright better than i had known some of the others and jim baker who had a great reputation when he was secretary of state for a toughness of mind, was often referred to by those with whom he worked at the state department and he believed in diplomacy and became my principal partner in trying to highlight the role of diplomacy built in the diplomacy center in washington. >> host: did you device john kerry cheese >> guest: we talked about issues frequently. i respect the position he is in. he now has to make these hard shoelaces but i am available to him and have been fortunate to talk to him about a number of issues in the last year-and-a-half. >> host: you say

by that time colin powell was chairman of the joint chiefs, and i called him up.0 in the morning. his secretary said, well, he's in a briefing already. i said, just tell him to give ken adelman a call when he gets a chance. she said oh, hold on a minute. and so hold on a minute. the phone rings. kenny. he always called me today. my mother called me kenny. kenny, i felt the same thing. unbelievable what happened. i can say what i called for. but we both knew that it was amazing. a week later, akhromeyev's funeral takes place, and no official attended. nobody from the foreign ministry, no military honors. just his daughters and his wife, and a few friends. and this is the most decorated man in soviet history. this is the man at gorbachev side for years, and then a few days after he is buried, some vandals, and dig up his body and steal the uniform and throw the body away. .. and he said, i don't know, i'll ask gorbachev when i get back to has cow. so i'm waiting for him to tell he. but that storyline, i've had friends tell me who read the book, that storyline is par

an aide to colin powell -- >> that was a joke. >> immorality can be checked and balanced and amorality is a different -- >> i am going to answer. one of the things you learn as a historian is there is an easy way out and a tough away out when you are writing a book. what you want is testimony. you want what people said about james madison at the time. what i quickly learned is that you have to evaluate who that person was and what their interests were and why they had a side for or against him. that is important for journalists, too, mike. to pick a quote from someone, just whoever it might be, and suggest it is objective truth in it does not work very well. you have to consider that person's past history and total record and then you understand is it a really good one. if you were asking a question or making a comment that peter baker said i would pay attention but not general wilkerson. >> colonel -- >> oh, my god. >> or did you hold my book up? >> i did. i did. [laughter] [applause] peter baker who wrote "days of fire" and recently a front-page story of cheney is back. peter is here

i volunteered and went there just after colin powell said it was genocide. 2.5 million displaced and 3 million dead and i was sent in into the african union's cease fire commission. our job was to stop the fighting. we had about 1700 people in an area larger than iraq. the place the size of france. among people who don't want to stop fighting. they are not tired of killing each other. i spent nine months there. got a phone call from my wife that said your mom went into the hospital and the doctor says come home. i went home and spent a month sitting by my mom's bedside while she died. that was tuesday. wednesday i went to get a suit for her funeral, lunch at the whitehouse on thursday, and friday buried and monday back to darfur. here is what is going on. the only think you need to know is the capital is elfascer. i was there to organize and run a training exercise for the african peace keeping staff. i was the scenario writer. the scenario were roughly like this. an emergency develops into a security crisis, deal with it. a security crisis develops into a humanitarian crisis and bad

--colin powell said it was a threat to commercial airliners.we have had more concerned about the budget. congress in the house has moved more toward an anti-regulatory stance. they don't want to them pose new rules on businesses. likely -- unless are aing happens -- we reactive culture. likely toe much more mandate this kind of thing you if there was a successful attack on a u.s. airline. the other issue is even if we do put commercial airline defenses on these planes, you're not going to be able to address the kind of thing that happened with the malaysian airliner. that makes it even more unlikely. your only addressing part of the threat. maybe it is most likely, nationstates usually have these types of systems unless they wind up in the hands of separatists. you're not talking about that kind of threat happening to these commercial airliners. you're talking more about the lower-level threats. host: who gets the contracts? what companies work in the space? guest: it is almost entirely the traditional defense contractors. as the department of

republican party, sarah palin, said that the president was shucking and jiving about benghazi, colin powellgeneral, a bush administration cabinet member went on "meet the press" and said that was racial. i'm curious whether the panel agrees with mr. powell. >> i'll give you a final word. >> let me ask the question of paul begala. >> answer his first, and then we are tight on time. >> well, well, what i want to know is, was it racist when the senate majority leader, harry reid, said that the president, because, you know, he has a chance to win, because he don't speak with a negro dialect? was that racist? >> no. by the way, neither is take it back. i wrote a whole look attacking george w. bush called "take it back," our country, our future. >> that's not what i asked you. >> all right, all right, all right. unfortunately -- >> no, it's not at all. >> i want to answer paul's question. yes, paul, that was racist. that was a racist comment. and i agree with general powell. >> all right. >> i'm happy to agree. >> i will hit pause there. we'll have you all back again, because this conversation ha

one of the conclusions was that colin powell when secretary of state was kept pretty much in the darkplanning on this policy. the enhanced interrogation techniques by the white house led by the cia and some people in the vice president's office. what more do we know about the evolution of this document? it's about to come out. >> well, it's about to come out. i guess the interesting news today is that this cia inspector general's report has come out that says the cia improperly basically broke into senate computers to see what they were -- what information they had as they were working on the torture report. and the cia director brennan has gone up to the hill and has apologized for this and a apparently had this tense meet with dianne feinstein earlier this week. it's interesting how this report comes out, it's clear the cia was doing all this other stuff to find out what was going to be in it and what information was there. apparently it's improper according to their inspector general. >> the inspector general has, we were reporting on this ourselves, i guess, about two months ago.

if you ask me flat-out, i worked from schultz to colin powell.f you ask me who had the best negotiating skills, who had the support of the president, frankly, who was the best negotiator that we've had since henry kissinger, it would be one guy. it would be james baker. and baker worked on this problem. he was a great actor. the president had his back. he knew how to be tough. he knew how to be fair. he knew how to be very reassuring, developing a relationship with yitzhak. circumstances cooperated. and the united states, during those years was admired, feared, and respected. the reality is we're not any of those things right now. >> thus -- >> and it lowers our secrete cred and our influence. we can still be effective, but we've got to be very smart, and we have to decide when in fact we can use our influence. >> i can see why you wrote the book. thank you. i appreciate it. you're welcome back any time. we appreciate you joining us. >> always a pleasure, don. thanks. >>> why are so many americans, especially evangelical americans rock solid in t

folks like colin powell, wesley clark, ceo of levi strauss image jcpenney, extraordinary individuals. we did a survey comic and 82% response rate, really had an amazing mix. then i went about the process of building a leadership development program model for college students. in the midst of that, i was invited to send the presidency according. i'll never forget my conversation when i went to tell them. he said were really excited, but i do have a question. he's intellectual property is that study you did? [laughter] i say david, you think it's part of my research. he said yeah, i was afraid you were going to say that. so i brought it to gordimer delta program called the presidential fellows program. the only other country modeled for college students. we believe deeply in the importance of early leadership opportunities. my research on the next visit to camp difference. it doesn't matter what happens by age 20, but between 20 and 40, that is a significant easing. people who have a particular effort to track to reach have the opportunity to significantly sharpen and i want to assume s

information on the still-classified report, the report concludes that the agency kept secretary of state colin powell u.s. ambassadors in the dark about the harsh techniques and secret prisons, and that some of the ambassadors informed about inter guyings of al qaeda detainees at black sites were instructed not to tell their superiors at the state department. the a.p. also reveals that while the report does not draw the legal conclusion that the cia's actions constituted torture, it makes clear that in some cases those actions amount to torture by a common definition. the timing of the declassification will be up to senator dianne feinstein. joining me now is senior national security and intelligence correspondent with mcclatchy newspapers jonathan landy. thanks for joining me. it is a huge news story today, this reveal, john brennan apologizing for what dianne feinstein had initially accused him of, the cia breaking into or monitoring senate computers. what has gone on behind the scenes in the months since dianne feinstein first levied these allegations or today or yesterday with john brennan's apol

baker the third and colin powell, who helped bring a breath of experience and observations and helpedmake a difference. and there were others as well. some the president did not want to invite to be around him at first. i like how jeff describes each strained relationship -- the strained relationship with the former secretary of state, who was quite prominent and is still quite prominent in the dialogue of dynamic change in the world. and yet that wisdom, i think, was facilitated in dealing with people who shared that view. president bush, i do believe, was that the cost of change -- cusp of change of philosophy in the white house at the same time that he was on the cusp of change with the world powers, if you will. and it does not look very dramatic going from reagan to bush. i am not sure it was really dramatic, but it was a change. his views were very different than his predecessor's views, george schultz. the views of the foreign-policy community when president reagan was dealing with the opportunity for change that had already started to emerge from gorbachev and that comes throu

with that information, an initially skeptical secretary of state colin powell went to the united nationsnd said iraq had, wait for it, at least seven mobile weapons trucks. >> ladies and gentlemen, these are sophisticated facilities. for example, they can produce anthrax. in fact, they can produce enough dry biological agent in a single month to kill thousands upon thousands of people. >> so the trouble was none of that was actually true. the informants either exaggerated or made things up. not just about wmds but also about saddam hussein supposedly having ties to al qaeda and seeking nuclear weapons. after the u.s. invasion, chalabi was installed as the oil minister. the neo cons once considered him iraq's george washington, but he fell out with the bush administration after bragging about his role and getting the u.s. to invade and being accused of everything from bank fraud to spying for iran. when the iraqi parliament meets this week to choose a new prime minister, "the new york times" reports that one person under consideration will be ahmed chalabi. good times. and that wraps i th

it probably would have if you look at colin powell coming is a pottery barn analogy when you break it, you buy it. what would've happened at that point is we would've deposed saddam hussein. the war breaking out now because we've abandoned our relationship with the rack would've broken out in 2004 in the united states and the entire united states would've been blamed by not only the muslim world, but by the chinese in europe for destroy that regime a leading to a would've been a regional conflagration we see today. >> would you answer versus the question that gave grover norquist in my competing attorneys so much trouble appeared on the balance, has america been a force for good or bad on the world? >> absolutely, yes. [applause] >> your wit us. please cross mr. mccarthy. >> general, mr. d'souza said he thought vietnam war was still prevacid should not than five. do you agree with that? >> probably on balance. i would've done what president eisenhower did not intervene in vietnam. >> astounds you are in favor of a more restrained foreign policy than the one we have today. is that corr

. : powell said we need -- colin powell said we need secure borders. we need to find a way.bill gates and warren buffett. are people- these with varying political points of view. we have to find a way to come together. we have to find a way to have borders secure enough that we feel good about it, but make sure we're doing the right thing. we are all immigrants in this country except native americans. >> i want to bring in what rick perry said. >> we have a track record of him disregarding what is going on on the borders. here is his opportunity to lead. to not blame this on anyone. blame this -- do not on anyone. be a leader. he can direct them to have the troops on the border. >> you have written a letter to congress, to the government about immigration. are you disappointed with the way the government has responded? >> i am disappointed with the way all of us have responded. it is very important we find a way to get around our fears about the borders and our need to keep the graduates who want to stand united states here and the international community needs to find a way

for me, when i saw colin powell talk about those bioweapon trucks. he was so trustworthy. they were very skillful. thatointed out in 2006 the information the cia had, which dealt with a tip from the foreign minister of iraq, somebody close to saddam, there were no weapons of mass discussion. -- mass destruction. it is hard for the press to dig inoto that. have to do it is you listen to all of the other renditions and let the public know there is a debate going on. >> how do you see examples in your reporting of the administration trying to minute delay the pres -- trying to manipulate the press? >> judy in her situation. we investigated ourselves fully and instituted a number of reforms in the way that we report stories. there is another body of work that i think helps to balance that out and post your point which is that a year before the invasion of iraq, my colleagues eric schmitt and david sanger began reporting a series of stories getting into the details of the initial war planning for the invasion. even as president bush were saying, we are not going to war. diploma

vice president, condi rice or colin powell? whose judgment do you trust more?tion, mike. i'd never thought of it in those terms. i have during the course of my career had good working relationships with both and also places where we fundamentally disagreed. and i won't go beyond that. >> rick perry or rand paul? [laughter] >> i don't plan today to endorse any candidates for president. >> liz, you get to answer that one too. >> well, obviously, senator paul leaves something to be desired with respect to the national security policy, and so i think that, you know, when you look at sort of without endorsing anybody, i think that, you know, i've got some big concerns about the extent to which senator paul seems to think we can be safe if we just come home and try to build a fortress america. that's clearly not going to work. >> so i should have asked you why do you trust hillary more than bill in totality? is. >> because i said in all areas of life. [laughter] i think i'll just leave it there. [laughter] >> all right. last one, mr. vice president. obama or kerry? [

i volunteered, i went to sudan, and i was sent there just after colin powell announced that what was happening in darfur was genocide. there were 300,000 dead, there were 2.5 million displaced, and i was sent in as the united states representative to the african union's ceasefire be commission. our job was to stop the fighting. we had about 1700 people in an area larger than iraq, twice the size of france. 1700 people to try and stop fighting. among people who don't want to stop fighting. they're not tired of killing each other yet. so i spent about nine months there and got a phone call from my wife said your mom's gone into hospital, the doctor says come home. i went home and spent a month sitting by my mom's bedside while she died. that was a wednesday finish that was a tuesday. wednesday i drove home to get a suit to wear to her funeral. thursday i went to lunch after the white house. -- at the white house. friday we buried my mom. monday i went back to work at the state department and was ordered back to darfur. i got back to darfur, i was working on a united nations mission, an

you had the whole ruse with yellow cake that cost a political career of colin powell when you forcedse premise and a mistake. why not own that if he wants to do what we want to see politicians do and take accountability. >> instead of doubling down. >> nobody would agree the intelligence we had was bad. at the time were they making the correct decision based on the intelligence. we know the intelligence of not good after the fact but we have intelligence all the time, unfortunately, that is not perfect. it's not always spot on. do you have a president that acts based on the best information he has, or do we say unless you know 110% that it's not perfect, you say well not going to act on that. you can't expect somebody to do that. monday quarterbacking six, seven, eight, ten, 12 years later is easy to do. >> that's what dick cheney is doing. >> on what issue? >> on iraq. he's reflecting back saying the invasion was correct. we had the best information possible. that's hugely generous of you to suggest he was relying on good information. you can say that the congress was relying on the

which has been mentioned, i served as undersecretary of state of management for four years under colin powelli subsequently served as a commissioner on the commission for wartime contracting in iraq and afghanistan. and most recently, chaired the panel that's been talked about here, which looked at the management and the organization of diplomatic security. this panel grew out of the accountability review board following benghazi that was chaired by admiral mullen and mastery pickery. as we on the panel progressed with our deliberations, we looked at one thing, and we looked at many things, but one thing we looked at was the relationship of diplomatic security to other bureaus and organizations both within the state department and across the government where appropriate. obviously obo, a close partner of diplomatic security, was included in that. as we talk to many ds employees, and others who are familiar and certainly concerned with security issues, it became evident that they had security concerns with certain aspects of design excellence. we can -- you know, we can talk about the importan

expected this week, and it may reveal that the cia did not initially inform then secretary of state colin powell and some u.s. ambassadors about harsh techniques used at secret prisons located outside the u.s. now, this contradicts earlier reporting that powell was briefed and participated in meetings during which the bush administration authorized these actions. all of this came to light yesterday after the associated press was accidentally e-mailed a copy of white house talking points. the obama administration is prepping for some tough questions, despite the fact that president obama labeled these practices torture and ordered them stopped. now, cbs has not seen the report. the cia and former secretary powell declined comment when cbs contacted them. but what is clear is that there will be revelations that raise more questions and could be potentially damaging for the perception of the u.s. >> margaret thank you. and the cia, led by brennan, is going to be pushing back pretty hard against this report. quite a fight. >> minimize the fallout. >> indeed. >>> just released e-mails linked to the i

for me, when i saw colin powell talk about those bioweapon trucks. he was so trustworthy. he did not believe it. they were very skillful. cbs pointed out in 2006 that the information the cia had, which dealt with a tip from the foreign minister of iraq, somebody close to saddam, there were no weapons of mass destruction. and the cia was ignored on that bit of information because it did not fit with the game plan of the bush administration. it is hard for the press to dig into that. a way to do it, and margaret is raising the question, is you have to listen to all of the other renditions and let the public know there is a debate going on. >> how do you see examples in your reporting of the administration trying to manipulate the press? particularly during recent conflicts. the judy miller situation at the times -- we investigated ourselves fully and instituted a number of reforms in the way that we report stories. there is another body of work >> how do you see examples in your reporting of the administration trying to manipulate the press? at the same time that i think hel