and clinton was really preoccupied by the prospective candidacy of colin powell and powell was on the book tour circuit, out with a memoir that was well-received and was attracting huge crowds and lots of people were lining up to get colin powell's book, get it autographed and so forth. this is exactly at the same time as the o.j. simpson trial was reaching its culmination in los angeles, so it's often overlooked can the popularity of colin powell and how to square his popularity with the reactions to the simpson verdict and they are both out there. books vying for attention at the same time but moËt people did focus on the reaction to the simpson verdicts. >> host: we're nearly at our time but i'm happy to take questions. one right there? go ahead. >> i just wanted -- your book points out how the media got it wrong on the internet and the oklahoma bombing and your dim view of the modern media exist in the era of buzz feed -- >> guest: i'm sorry. >> do you still have a dim view of the modern media today? >> host: a dim view of the modern media. >> guest: very interesting questions in

republican john boehner being elected as nonspeaker, the votes included one who voted instead for colin powell our viewers pointed it that it was not a republican member of congress but a democrat who cast that to vote for colin powell today. i totally missed that. i regret that error very much. i stand corrected. and i thank you. i know you republicans are watching. i know you are. what makes it an suv is what you can get into it. ♪ [container door closing] what makes it an nx is what you can get out of it. ♪ introducing the first-ever lexus nx turbo and hybrid. once you go beyond utility there's no going back. kid: hey dad, who was that man? dad: he's our broker. he helps looks after all our money. kid: do you pay him? dad: of course. kid: how much? dad: i don't know exactly. kid: what if you're not happy? does he have to pay you back? dad: nope. kid: why not? dad: it doesn't work that way. kid: why not? vo: are you asking enough questions about the way your wealth is managed? wealth management at charles schwab sunday dinners at my house... it's a full day for me, and i love it. but when i

anyone is free to call colin powell. that conversation never happened. i never asked colin powell if he would help and we would sell airplane parts to iran so when jack says, well, they got bob because of casino chips -- i did have a problem of declaring all the chips. i declared some and didn't declare others and i put that in the book. but the government didn't indict me on that. what jack abramoff is saying there is well, you know -- i know what he's saying. if bob hadn't had that problem in the casino -- i'm not saying that helped -- if he hadn't had that problem in the casino, there was nothing bob and i did that they would have convicted him for. i had a string of favors from jack abramoff. i took free food from jack abramoff that should have been reported as well as free liquor. i pled guilty. jack doesn't like the answer the very question he has created in controversy. on "60 minutes," jack abramoff said, i had 100 members in my pocket and i spent $1 million. if jack abramoff spent $1 million on 100 members and spent, say $30,000 on me, what was

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in 2003 then secretary of state colin powell presented what he claimed was an airtight case that iraq had weapons of mass council. >> i believe the conclusion is irreparable and updeniable. >> the same thing happened in vietnam, where the n.s.a. essentially told the military and the civilian leadership that the north vietnamese had attacked united states when, in fact, they had not. >> we believe two of the attacking boats were sunk. >> it's important for the media to be careful and scrutinise carefully. >> we can confirm that north korea engaged in the attack. >> or we could end up in a situation like the past situations where we react too quickly and realise that we have an actor that involved. >> pyongyang repeatedly denied it was behind the hack on sony, which in and of itself is not enough to throw off the most gullible journalists. there are numerous side experts picking apart evidence of north korea. if that is not cause for skepticism, take a look at the demands for the guardians of acts. >> the guardians of peace never mentioned "the interview," and only the first instance in

my parents, my grandparents and also as you mentioned steve jobs and colin powell.ramatically influenced me in philantrophy. in business, i don't think anyone has influenced me more than larry ellison. i would not be the ceo i am today, salesforce would not be the business it is, not just because of this money but because of everything i learned from him. >> big tech companies are splitting up. from hp to ebay. why is that happening? are we going to see more of it? >> i think there are a lot of different reasons why that is happening. one may be the companies have become too big, unmanageable and you want them to be smaller units. smaller units are easier to manage. organization like hp, they will have one for each and that will be a great strategy for them. i think the same thing is a great strategy for ebay. there are probably a lot of other companies will follow that. >> will oracle follow? is oracle one of those companies? >> i think that with oracle, that is difficult. number one, the distribution will be the same no matter what. the most important thing is tha

they graduated the likes of colin powell and jonas faulk and an ddy growth. and those wonderful talented hard working young people at the time got a free education. that was in a time when it wasn't as clear that a college education is essential. now it is absolutely essential. >> dr. gutmann tell us about your story. i know you had some issues trying to pay too. how were you able to go to school. >> my father was a scrap metal dealer. he had minimal -- no savings. we had no savings. he had a very modest income and he died when i was a junior in high school. and my mother was a stay-at-home mom at the time but before she had me and married my father she was a stenographer. and we had no money for college. but my parents believed in education. and what made my career possible -- and i owe it all to a full scholarship based on need at radcliffe college. >> do you think technology is going change and kind of force this change to happen? you have online options and massively open online courses and all kinds of innovations on kavrpts campus. will that bring down

haiti, port-au-prince to interview him and i got a phone call a message from secretary of state colin powellthat that might not be a good idea. i knew secretary powell and, you know, these are my words. he was at least concerned enough or kind enough to let me know, tavis this is not where want to be right now because something's about to get down. no heads up on what wa about to go down, just from mr. powell's office, tavis, don't do this. the plane never took off. i never left. i'm watching cnn a few minutes later, an hour or so later and i see aristide being whisked out of the country by u.s. forces. the story then and it all of these years later as the u.s. government will tell is is that they did that to save aristide. if aristide had not gone on that plane with the u.s. military forces he would have been assassinated, killed, the u.s. government said they did to save aristide and save anarchy in the country. your view, randall the view all the others later was it was a u.s.-led coup. tell me why you feel that way? >> yes. because we had been -- the haiti action committee why was in hai

and colin powell also has come clean and said it was a blot on his record. you'll recall his february 5th, '03, presentation to the united nations which was powerful, masterful and, of course, wrong. and he admits that now, and he says it's, you know, the biggest mistake he ever made. i've always thought and still think that he was the best of all of the folks that served president bush a truly remarkable american. so the question -- what are the lessons of all of this? how do we prevent this from happening again? and i believe that the intelligence laws now should be changed to mandate the public disclosure of intelligence findings if any future president calls upon congress to authorize preemptive war. the methods of collecting intelligence and the sources of intelligence have to remain classified so we don't tip off our adversaries and we protect our agents. but the judgment of our opinions and if a future president wants to ask for congressional authority to start a war that ought to be disclosed to the congress and the public and the media. this is our

because they believe it is a major recruiting tool for terrorist and they know republicans like colin powell agreed with them. >> but there is also disagreement on that and a bill to stop the transfers from not happening. tell us about that. >> reporter: it is a moratorium and pushed by the republicans and lindsay graham and kelly ayotte. they say now is not the time to release terrorist detainees especially the large portion of those left are from yemen. listen what rudy gull annia. >> you have to be out of your mind to let killers go. what is going on in the white house? this is the craziest thing the president of the united states has done. >> reporter: interesting because the latest fox poll, the public believes that 56% say keep it open and 32 percent close it. >> interesting to watch. and appreciate it as always. those threats are terror are all too real as the feds foil an isis plot here at home. we'll talk to a fbi official about a blood bath that may have been prevented on u.s. soil. >> well, it looks like hillary clinton might try to win the white house with a blast from her husban

president of the united states, george bush, and the vice president of the united states, and colin powell and condi rice and donald rumsfeld. and listening to the arguments as to why we need to go to war in iraq. now, when you are a new member of congress you are everything is done on the basis of seniority. we all know that. when you speak is determined by your seniority. what committees you sit on determined by seniority. even where you sit is determined by seniority. so at these meetings because i was the lowest on the totem pole, the most junior member of congress i was usually seated all the way at the end of the table as far from the president as i could get to it was kind of like my house on major holidays. i was always seated at the junior do with the kids while all the adults had their meals. but that seeding gave me a bird's-eye view of what was happening in these meetings. i was able to observe president bush and observe vice president cheney, the body language the texture, the tone of these meetings. and, obviously, these were classified meetings, most of them. obviously, i co

time it's very interesting and often overlooked at the same time in late summer and early fall colin powell was identified and seen as a prospective presidential candidate on the republican ticket and clinton was really preoccupied by the prospective candidacy, and he was on the book tour circuit out with a memoir and an autobiography that was well received and attracting huge crowds and lots of people were lining up to get the book autographed and so forth and this is exactly the same time as the o.j. simpson trial was reaching its culmination in los angeles. so i think it is over often overlooked how how to square the population with the reaction of the verdict. they are both out of their looking for attention at the same time but most people do focus on the reaction. >> we are nearly out of time but i'm happy to take any questions. >> the book points out how the media got it wrong [inaudible] what is your view lacks >> you still have a few of the media as it is today? spinnaker that is an interesting question. in some respects that is the case. some of what we saw in the media in the per

the honorable colin powell has received one. with one recorded as present. therefore, the honorable john a. boehner of the state of ohio having received a majority of the votes cast is duly elected as speaker of the house of representatives for the 114th congress. the clerk appoints the following committee to escort the speaker-elect to the chair. the gentleman from california, mr. mccarthy. the gentlewoman from california, ms. pelosi. the gentleman from louisiana, mr. scalise. the gentlewoman from maryland, ms. mock morris rogers. the gentleman from south carolina, mr. clyburn. the gentleman from oregon, mr. walden. the gentleman from california, mr. becerra. the gentleman from indiana, mr. messer. the gentleman from new york, mr. israel. the gentlewoman from kansas, ms. jenkins. the gentlewoman from connecticut, ms. delauro. the gentlewoman from north carolina, ms. foxx. the gentlewoman from maryland, ms. edwards. the gentlewoman from california, mrs. mimi walters. the gentleman from maryland, mr. van hollen. the gentleman from texas, mr. sessions. the gen

neil: that has to be good news for colin powell. he got a vote. i did too. it's a neat process. anyone can become pope, i understand. >> also a lot of people who are coming in. they want to assert themselves. make a name for themselves. in the end, they'll rally behind the party. they want to get something done. in the end, we need to pass the keystone pipeline. put somebody in place. a lot of work to be done. neil: but they won't do it. here is the good news meantime on these falling gas prices, they're still falling. here is the bad news, not enough to make up for those much higher heating bills we'll all be faced with. neil: i'm sure the market is causing jitters of late. calm down and ignore these last couple of days. what if i told you that 2015 would be a good year for stocks. not because of the economy, but because of the year. it's true. years apparently ending in five always see up markets. i'm not talking mostly. i'm saying always. we looked into it because we had time on our hands. check thise average gain has been 28 for the dow in years ending in five. you think tha

the president of the united states, george bush and the vice president of the united states and colin powell and condoleezza rice and donald rumsfeld and listening to their argument of why we needed to go to war in iraq. now when you are a new member of congress you are -- everything is done on the basis of seniority. when you speak as determined by your seniority, with kennedys used it on even where you said is determined by seniority, so at these meetings because i was the lowest of the totem pole the newest member is usually see see totally at the end of the table as far from the president as i could get. it was kind of like my house on major holidays i was always seated at the table with the kids while all of the adults had their meals. but that's seeding actually gave me a birds eye view of what was happening in the meetings. so i was able to observe president bush and the vice president and the body language and texture, the tone of the meetings. i couldn't write down what was said but i would leave those meetings having heard some of the most unusual arguments, some bordering on the a

mario cuomo never ran, colin powell never ran.die rice, she could have been there for life, but you've got to run, you've got to get in this thing. i think mitt romney has a level of self-assurance, call it arrogance, which is so superior because of his education, his family, his background, money, it gives him a sense of walking into a room and thinking he's better than the president of the united states. that helped him in his first debate. i don't like it, but it-. is that what's driving him? >> he is very, very popular with the american people, but he's like an average guy all of a sudden. they sort of see him as the guy that goes to mcdonald os cvs. that kind of combined with the notion that he is very successful would make me think, if i was him, maybe i can actually win it. >> the popularity of the movie that came out that showed him as a regular guy, i remember nixon was incredibly popular after he lost to kennedy. you understand that? you know what? he can take a thumping, he got the message. we didn't like anybody as muc

memo, it says the white house says that colin powell should not be briefed about these things. blow his stack if he is briefed. is it your sense that the state department department have the opportunity to opt out of knowing this information in the same way that other senior people of the administration did? >> that's fair. there's a technical point e point that is missed a little bit in senator finestein's regulation when she talks about covert actions. this's actually current policy. the technical point that a lot of people don't understand is that when this program was first proposed, it was not proposed as a covert action. it was proposed as an intelligence collection measure. the arcane point is that the bureaucratics for how you get approval for doing an intelligence collection, like running an espionage operation, is not the same as getting the policy approval for a covert action. which is a policy measure. the e because this was presented as a malter of intelligence collection,it circumvented the usual covert action approval procedures and circumvented the secretary of

senior instructors, one of my junior instructors at the time was a young major in the army named colin powell, and he and i became very, very close friends. but that was a wonderful tour. the navy tour, for those of you who are interested and may want to go navy, was interesting. i was extremely disappointed. i did not want to go in the navy . at the time. but i got a set of orders to a heavy cruiser. a grand new heavy cruiser. u.s.s. salem. first cruise. boston naval shipyard. i walked down the peer and i looked up tsh-pier and i looked up at this big beautiful ship. more guns on it than you have ever seen in your life. went aboard. it was one of the most pleasant tours i have ever had. very seriously. in the end, i became a qualified surface warfare officer. now, we were the sixth fleet command in the mediterranean and we had a hardship tour in france which was very hard. near nice. that was our homeport. then we would go over to venice once in a while. then we had a very sad occasion which happened some people will remember we he had a huge earthquake in greece. and we were the first ship

. >> and colin powell is there on the list receiving one vote.ng assortment of runners up, not in a practical sense, but what is that spread of write ins and odds off names suggest to you about the feeling right now? >> i think this shows you why speaker boehner is in a strong position here. he is really only going to be in danger if there is a unified front. they are only supporting the strong potential challenger. one republican privately describe this group that is voting against boehner as the coalition of the aggrieved. it is a collection of people who have different problems with the way leadership is running things in the house. i don't want to compare it to the to the american people and everyone is unhappy with how it is being run, but that's what you are hearing from this. >> we are looking at a live picture of the ceremonial swearing in of mitch mcconnell. look at that. so warm there. >> the senators were official low sworn in. vice president biden takes great pride in doing. he got himself in with the family members. that's his wife,

simpson and also the days when you had oprah, michael jordan colin powell you had black heroes if youl rising up that had great cross-over appeal in america. so we're always going in both directions at once as president obama has mentioned. but in the long haul we move forward so i expect him to give a long range view. >> clarence page who stayed brilliant, author of culture warriors. thank you so much for being here, clarence. i appreciate it. happy mlk day. >> you too. >>> and rachel maddow and chris matthews will bring you special coverage of the state of the union address starting at 8:00 p.m. eastern here on msnbc. >>> and up ahead, the new era in u.s.-cuba relations. we'll discuss whether both nations can move past the history of mistrust and take advantage of the opportunities that could be mutually beneficial. >>> and later, school kids across the country watched the movie selma and discover that it is more than just history, it is a version of their own story. you pay your auto insurance premium every month on the dot. you're like the poster child for paying on time. and then

just after 9:30 we started to see the colin powell in a handful of cars cross the bridge, an early openingters in marin county were hoping for when we went there this evening. one of the tasks that aknee needed to be completed is allowing crews time with the zipper trucks. the bridge district released video that gives the experience with the movable median barrier in place. it's designed to prevent head-on collisions. they explained the steps leading to this reopening. >> the striping needed time to dry. so we waited for that. we did the exercises that we needed to do with the operators. so they're feeling ready for the morning. the configuration is in the morning commute right now. and the next time that you're going to see the zipper trucks operate will probably be around 9:30 or 10:00 tomorrow. >> now there is the new merge to know about southbound on the waldo grade from the tunnel to the approach to the span. drivers will now merge from right to left instead of left to right. also, the speed limit in that same area has been lowered from 55 to 45 miles an hour. another thing to keep in

line in the torture report where basically an internal cia memo says the white house says that colin powelluld not be informed about these things. he shnts be briefed. he'll blow his stack if he is briefed. is it your sense the state department didn't have the opportunity to opt out of knowing this information in the same way that other senior parts of the administration did? >> that's fair. one of the -- there's a technical point that is missed a little bit in senator feinstein's recommendation when she talks about telling people about covert actions. that's current policy. the technical point that a lot of people don't understand is when this program was first proposed it wasn't proposed as a covert action but an intelligence collection measure. the arcane point is the bureaucratics for how to get approval for doing an intelligence collection like running an espionage operation is not the same as getting the policy approval for a covert action which is a policy measure. because this was presented as a matters of intelligence collection it circumvented the usual covert action approveal pro

somebody voted for colin powell, for example. once we get all that nailed down, we'll let you know.n 20 last year or two years ago 12 republicans voted against him. >> all right. john boehner reelected speaker of the house of representatives. dana thanks very much. that's it for me i'll be back 5:00 p.m. eastern in the "situation room." for our international viewers, amanpour is coming up next. for our viewers in north america, "newsroom with brooke baldwin" starts right now. >> all right, wolf. thank you so much. i'll take it. great to be with you on this tuesday. lot going on in washington. despite some drama, about to get that gavel back. on the verge here republicans taking control of capitol hill. in fact we know right now he is getting ready to address the now 114th congress. so just because we love numbers, here's the new balance of power in the senate. 54 republicans, 44 democrats, and 2 independents

. -- colin powell. that also goes to where you are because they have access to the pentagon. if you don't have any minority general's letter now on air contributors -- my point is, it creates other hiring opportunities for the next folks coming in, that is what i mean when we get shut out those power positions, it has a trickle-down effect -- vertical and horizontal -- and it further creates more division and keeps us further away from these prime opportunities. the reality is, when gilbert becomes editor, would you have an african american who becomes editor -- hopefully, you have someone who knows who they are -- they are going to understand that they will be bringing more people into this mix to broaden this, and not worry about, well you don't have this particular pedigree. they know you have the skill set. that is why it matters and we are in leadership positions. when we are not in leadership positions or we are the third level or fourth level and we're just simply staffers, basically, we are the help. >> let's take one more question from each side. then i would like my

colin powell could not get into some of the restaurants to mysteriously. there were students going through the command course and i took all the casualty calls so one day i got a casualty: i noticed the address and a new where was, it was in the poorest of the poor black sections. the day was getting late and it was not a place that a white boy wanted to go. and so i waited until the next morning and i went over and i searched and i could not find the mother. i finally found the house and i wrapped in the door of the outdoor privy basic nothing, i knocked on the door and this tall stately black lady came to the door. but inside is a watched she told me to sit and i sat down on a brass bed and she on a little couch and in a corner was a man rocking back and forth obviously with some sort of dementia. so when i told her that her son had been killed she took my lily white hand in this powerful black hand in she said, don't you fret, colonel kelly. when the good lord made me my robert, he made me no promises on how long i was going to get to keep him, and i kn

colin powell could grow up in the bronx and through public education could become head of the joint chiefs of staff. for too many it is now the great discriminator. and the truth is we have two systems. we have one for the rich, and we have one for the poor, and the greatest symbol of disparity is our failing schools. students in failing schools lag well behind in virtually every academic category. state average for graduation is 76%, failing school 47%. worse, more than 9 out of 10 students in failing schools are minority or poor students. nine out of ten minority or poor students. there are 178 failing schools in new york state. 77 have been failing for an entire decade. over the last ten years, 250,000 children went through those failing schools while new york state government did nothing. just think about that. and that has to end this year. i understand the obstacles to abuse. [applause] i also understand what our students need to move forward. we should be ashamed of those numbers. the education industry's cry that more money will solve the problem is false. money without reform only

my father could go from behind a grocery store and through public education, become governor colin powell grew up in the bronx, through public education could become head of the joint chiefs of staff. for too many, it is now the great discriminator. and the truth is, we have two systems. we have one for the rich and we have one for the poor, and the greatest symbol of disparity is our failing schools. students in failing schools land well behind in virtually every academic category. state average for graduation is 76%. failing school 47%. worse, more than 9 out of 10 students in failing schools are minority or poor students. 9 out of 10 minority or poor students. there are 178 failing schools in new york state. 77 have been failing for an entire decade. over the last ten years 250,000 children went through those failing schools while new york state government did nothing. just think about that. and that has to end this year. i understand the obstacles to abuse. i also understand what our students need to move forward. we should be ashamed of those numbers. the education industry's cry tha

a contributor because it is not say the only black general you could think of today is: powes colin powell. they have access to the pentagon, and if you do not have any minority generals who are pictures, they do not have access to the pentagon to get information. my point is just that hiring create other opportunities and creates other opportunities for the next folks coming in, and that is what i mean when we get shut out of this power positions it has a trickle-down effect that is vertical and horizontal, and what it does it for the creates more division and keeps us further away from these private opportunities because the reality is when -- becomes editor, when you have an african-american become standard, you got somebody who knows who they are, they are going to understand that let me bring more people into this mix to broaden this and not worrying about you do not have this particular degree, you have the skill set. that is what matters went we are in leadership positions, but not in additionparticular positions or secular positions or the third or fourth level, but ugly staffers,

in addition to that, you have to do what colin powell has a program to do, but nobody has allowed him to run it by giving him money, and that is the partnership program with other arab nations to work on the economic problem of the arab lands. there are 90 million young muslims between 15 and 24. a lot of them are out of work. a lot of them are desperate. they're easy to teach in a school to hate somebody. take it from a governor who knows you can't stop crime. you can't stop killing with prisons and police and judges and all of that. it takes much more. you have to figure out what the source of this is. but you people won't talk about the source of it because you think that's mushy-headed liberalism. no, no that's stupidity of you people, not to consider the other causes here. and deal with them as well. i think the analogy i use in the book he would like. and that terrorism is a cancer. and you have malignant growths and you must extro pate those growths but terrorism is a perverse kind of cancer that when you pull one out and osama bin laden, for example, it's going to produce othe

in addition to that, you have to do what colin powell has a program to do, but nobody has allowed himrun it by giving him money, and that is the partnership program with other arab nations to work on the economic problem of the arab lands. there are 90 million young muslims between 15 and 24. a lot of them are out of work. a lot of them are desperate. they're easy to teach in a school to hate somebody. take it from a governor who knows you can't stop crime. you can't stop killing with prisons and police and judges and all of that. it takes much more. you have to figure out what the source of this is. but you people won't talk about the source of it because you think that's mushy-headed liberalism. no, no that's stupidity of you people, not to consider the other causes here. and deal with them as well. i think the analogy i use in the book he would like. and that terrorism is a cancer. and you have malignant growths and you must extro pate those growths but terrorism is a perverse kind of cancer that when you pull one out and osama bin laden, for example, it's going to produce others.

i think the fact that people like colin powell and eric holder have backgrounds from the cabbn, harry belafte stokely carmicel marcus gaey. and at the other end rihanna, nicki minaj from the caribbean. would you care -- >> host: nille, where are you from? >> caller: i fm guyanan south america. >> host: thank you sir. >> guest: i think you just commented, and i couldn't age were more. that's what's so betiful about this country and this is wor remembering as we have this debate this pseudo-debate in the next few weeks and months d w with the republicans controlling both hoes of congss, where is th immigration debate going to go? obviously, cservatives and others in this town think the president, you know, has rubbe their nosin thismmigration debate and has really, you know gone beyond the pale when he usedhis executive privilegeo do what he did on the issue of immigration reform. they didn't like that, as we all know, and you've seenhat vered here on c-span. but it'sorth remembering th this country a country built on immigrants. and islso worth remembing that all these immigrants aren'