katie beck, nbc news. >>> colin powell rose to the highest rank in the u.s. military as secretary of state and adviser to both republican and democratic presidents, and now he's sharing his views on black lives matter and his own experience with discrimination in a one-on-one interview with our andrea mitchell >> reporter: with the nation in the throes of a reckoning over systemic racism and police violence, retired general colin powell speaking out. >> racism still exists who want to take it out on people who are people of color. and we have to make sure that our top leadership, especially the president of the united states, has to be an example to the rest of the country that we are one nation, one people. >> reporter: a republican who voted for barack obama, powell now supports joe biden against president trump. the president has called black lives matter a symbol of hate. >> black lives matter. it's a matter of fact, but he doesn't accept it and he should be leading this, not criticizing it. >> reporter: when he speaks so fondly of the confederacy, do you

. >>> one on one with colin powell, speaking out about black lives matter and confederate symbols and what he said when asked does he think president trump is a risa heated black li protest in portland exploded into chaos when shots were fired into the air prompting the crowd to seek cover. >>> and we're live in london with the latest drama from the courtroom, in the johnny depp/amber hurd civil riltrial. it is friday "early today" starts now good morning, i'm phillip mena. >> i'm frances revarria. the united states is facing many of the challenges we first saw in april now there are new coronavirus hot spots feeling the pressure both texas and florida just recorded their highest totals for single day deaths. >> overwhelmed healthcare workers were again raising alarms about shortages of masks, go nurses found that 85% are being asked to re-use the single use protective gear a nurse in dallas told nbc news she used the same mask for two weeks. >>> the pandemic may be causing cases of broken heart syndrome to rise in people who do not have coronavirus this condition is brought on by int

and colin powell said russia doesn't want to have a war with the u.s. an. thanks so much for joining us. come back soon. >> thank you. elizabeth: okay. coming up the latest on u.s. attorney john durham's criminal investigation into the trump-russia probe. kt mcfarland joins us on why john durham may wait to announce results or initiate prosecutions until after the election. kt mcfarland next. ♪ ♪ hey, can i... hold on one second... sure. okay... okay! safe drivers save 40%!!! guys! guys! check it out. safe drivers save 40%!!! safe drivers save 40%! safe drivers save 40%!!! that's safe drivers save 40%. it is, that's safe drivers save 40%. - he's right there. - it's him! he's here. he's right here. - hi! - hi. hey! - that's totally him. - it's him! that's totally the guy. safe drivers do save 40%. click or call for a quote today. safe drivers do save 40%. i am totally blind. and non-24 can make me show up too early... or too late. or make me feel like i'm not really "there." talk to your doctor, and call 844-234-2424. but what if you could stdo better tha

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and colin powell said russia doesn't want to have a war with the u.s. so much for joining us. come back soon. >> thank you. elizabeth: okay. coming up the latest on u.s. attorney john durham's criminal investigation into the trump-russia probe. kt mcfarland joins us on why john durham may wait to announce results or initiate prosecutions until after the election. kt mcfarland next. ♪ ♪ ur car insurance so you only pay for what you need. what do you think? i don't see it. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ 1 in 5 people you meet wear yeah. that many! but right now, is not the time to talk about it. so when you're ready, search 'my denture care'. poligrip and polident. fixed. fresh. and just between us. ♪ ♪ elizabeth: u.s. attorney john durham is under pressure to wrap up his e criminal investigation into the fbi's trump-russia probe. he may wait to reveal his findings or do prosecutions until after the elections. this is according to fox news. let's welcome back to the show president trump's former deputy national security

we are not the same beloved united states of america that we used to be. >> well, general colin powell secretary of staircte, former joint chiefs. it's been a great privilege today. thank you very much for joining us right now. right here on msnbc. >> thank you, andrea. >>> and that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." chuck todd and katy tur pick up our coverage after a break. inflammation in your eye might be to blame. looks like a great day for achy, burning eyes! over-the-counter eye drops typically work by lubricating your eyes and may provide temporary relief. ha! these drops probably won't touch me. xiidra works differently, targeting inflammation that can cause dry eye disease. what is that? xiidra, noooo! it can provide lasting relief. xiidra is the only fda approved treatment specifically for the signs and symptoms of dry eye disease. one drop in each eye, twice a day. don't use if you're allergic to xiidra. common side effects include eye irritation, discomfort or blurred vision when applied to the eye, and unusual taste sensation. don't touch container tip

colin powell said it's not true. colin powell is not exactly somebody that i'm a big fan of.ell says it's not true. other people say it's not true. if it were true i'd be very angry about it, but if you look at russia. russia became russia from the soviet union because of afghanistan. they lost a fortune and a lot of people, a lot of people so i don't know why they'd be doing it, but if you tell me they're doing it i will certainly take that under consideration. [ inaudible question ] >> i would respond appropriately. nobody has been tougher on russia. nobody has been tougher on china. nobody has been tougher on iran than me and it's not even close and everybody knows this. nobody's been tougher on russia, china or anybody else than me including our allies, nato who i got to pay $120 billion more money. you what that is? >> a lot of money. >> i did russia no favor. nobody has been tougher on russia. >> on nato -- [ inaudible question ] >> germany is delinquent. they haven't paid their fee. they haven't paid their nato fees and they're way off and they've been off for years an

bush and senator mitt romney won't support his reelection colin powell says he will vote for joe biden why are these republicans taking a stand against not how they think is it really about trump's record or more about you know the senate race and saving the republican party. well i think when it comes to someone like colin powell he supported president obama as well so he has lately been trending toward supporting democratic candidates with respect to mitt romney it's no secret that he and there's no love lost between him and donald trump and also mitt romney state of utah has never been very supportive of donald trump so that gives mitt romney some freedom that other senators feel that they don't have in terms of speaking out against trump but the issue is that those are just a few people here's the problem there were probably a party again brit large has not hill donald trump accountable there has been scandal after scandal and they have continued to not only stand by him but to actively help him defend against some pretty damning allegations of corruption and abuse of power why is

not true, colin powell is not exactly somebody that i'm a big fan of, colin powell says it is not true were true, i would be very angry about it. but if you look at russia, russia became russia from the soviet union because of afghanistan. they lost a fortune and a lot of people. a lot of people. i don't know why they're doing this, if you tell me they're doing it, i will certainly take that under consideration. >> what if russia did turn out to have done that? how would you respond? >> i would respond appropriately. nobody has been tougher on russia. nobody has been tougher on china. nobody has been tougher on iran than me. and it is not even close. and everybody knows it. nobody has been tougher on russia, china or anybody else than me. and including our allies. nato, who -- 140 billion, you know why? that's the whole russia inject. i did russia no favors. nobody has tougher on russia. [ inaudible ] >> germany is delinquent. they haven't paid their fees, they haven't paid their nato fees. they're way off. they have no intention of paying it. the united states has been taken advantage

he references colin powell and says colin powell says it is not true. he commented on the media coverage of it, colin powell doesn't have access to this classified intelligence. and then the president goes on to say if it were true, i would be very angry about it. so, again, asking as if he is not aware as to whether or not this is true and, of course, there has been debate about this and the intelligence community, but not coming down again on putin and saying that this is something that he wants to get to the bottom of essentially. >> all right, shannon pettypiece at the white house with that update, thank you, shannon. >>> much more to get to on the pandemic, an alarming look at the outbreak in a california prison where inmates are allegedly being sent to solitary confinement to stop the spread of covid-19. >>> and after another night of demonstrations, the white house now in talks with oregon's governor to draw down the president's federal agent sent to quell the protests in portland. live on the ground there with new nbc reporting just ahead. we're

. >> we'll look at the change louis fought for an exam his legacy with colin powell. plus our cbs colleagues who covered louis's career. as coronavirus continues the deadly summer spread, the simpliest of precipitations escalates. a private white house document urges mandating a masks in 13 states. the cdc said could help drive this epidemic to the ground four to six weeks. president trump feels differently. >> will you consider a national mandate that people need to wear mask >> no, i want people to have a certain freedom. i don't believe in that. no. and i don't agree with the statement that if a everybody wears a mask everything disappears. >> brennan: frustration gross, there are reports that the administration plans to cut testing and tracing aids for federal agencies from a new colona aid bill drafted by republicans on capitol hill. we'll talk with atlanta mayor tisha lance bottoms, former ngo richard besser and former fda commissioner dr. scott gottlieb then continue our look at the challenges of getting the nation's students back to school with a new head of t

colin powell never said it was fake news, and he never said that the story is not true. in fact, he told andrea mitchell on this network that he doesn't think we understand what happened. >> what i know is that our military commanders on the ground did not think that it was as serious a problem as the newspaper were reporting and television was reporting. it got kind of out of control before we really had an understanding of what had happened. i'm not sure we fully understand now. >> general mckenzie and others have affirmed that the taliban have been armed for years now by russia. doesn't that require a tougher stance against vladimir putin from the president? >> i would think so. >> there is one more thing you need to know before watching jonathan swan's questioning of donald trump. and that is that two years ago the head of u.s. forces in afghanistan forced our general john nicholson said this. >> we have had weapons brought to this headquarters and given to us by afghan leaders and said this was given to russia by the taliban. >> okay. now you are ready. you are brie

. >> former secretary of state colin powell. >> he spent his whole adult life fighting these issues. and going after racism. and so a man with that kind of bravery built into him is an incredible individual and he was. and i think we will always be remembering what he did for our nation. what he did for our people. >> major, there say candle light vigil set here at the john lewis memorial mural but already there are calls to rename the edmund pettus bridge after him as well. as you remember, it was on that bridge in march of 1965 that he lead protestors across from selma to montgomery as they were fighting for their voting rights. they were met with opposition from law enforcement. and it is that moment that became known as bloody sunday. >> garrett: michelle, with congressman lewis' passing, the question looms, what does it mean for the continuing fight for racial and social equality in america right now? >> lewis was an incredible ally to the next generation, whether it was with immigration or gun control or gay rights. he was the man who was always willing to reach across some oth

at one point, colin powell was a likely republican candidate for president; but in 1968, he was a young serving in vietnam. >> and the country was a mess. and remember also that we were entering a period where we're still in the cold war and we're entering the period where we were going to have disappointments in our president and vice president. and we had to let spiro agnew go. and then nixon went. i thought that was about the worst time in my life and in my--watching the country. but i'll tell you what, the current situation, comes close to matching it. >> reporter: senator tom daschle represented south dakota for three terms between 1987 and 2005. for ten years, he led senate democrats as both minority and senate majority leader. but in 1968 from the air the scene looked unreal. >> i was in college at the time, and it was my very first trip to washington. so i have vivid memories of seeing 14th street and the national guard out on the streets and the burning buildings and the extraordinary chaos that was so pervasive. i think the big difference between then and now is how functional

. >> this morning trump claimed colin powell said it was a fake issue. that was not the case. powell talked about media coverage. and trump added this about russian bounties. >> i don't know why they would be doing that, but if you tell me they are doing it, i will take it under consideration. [ question inaudible ] >> i would respond appropriately. nobody has been tougher on russia. >> on another front the administration confirms it intends to withdraw 12,000 troops from germany, something many believe has been at the top of the wish lish t of vladimir putin for years. >>> and portland, they said the troops would be withdrawing tomorrow. but are staying there for now. >>> and atlanta, john lewis funeral will be tomorrow. barack obama is delivering the eulogy. >>> one more item, we learned that ruth bader ginsburg is back in the hospital for what is being called a bile duct. but she will be back in a few days. >> we start off with your senior reporter, and a pediatrics physician at tcolumbia. and former chief council to the house intel committee. shannon, no briefing today bec

your state might vote for hillary clinton and some of those other 2 said we will vote for colin powello bring some trouble with us and forge a third way. if you have estate, not all states have these laws but if you have a state where it says you have to vote the way your popular vote goes they have to follow that so it really clarifies something 99% of the time electors were doing but if you had another movement to try to convince people to go the other way this will squash that. >> justice kagan writing the opinion for the court, quote, the constitution and the nation's history support allow the state to enforce in a letter's pledged to support his party's nominee, and the state voters choice for president, they have no ground for reversing the vote of millions of its citizens. you think the electoral college is here to stay for the foreseeable future? >> i hope so, an important compromise our framers put in place. there are other states, trying to get together in interstate compact that would override that, they would say instead of mandating the state electors to vote for the state

. >> this morning trump claimed colin powell said it was a fake issue. that was not the case. powell talked about media coverage. of the report. and trump added this about russian bounties. >> i don't know why they would be doing that, but if you tell me they are doing it, i will take it under consideration. [ question inaudible ] >> i would respond appropriately. nobody has been tougher on russia. >> on another front the administration confirms it intends to withdraw 12,000 troops from germany, something many believe has been at the top of the wish list of vladimir putin for years. military federal agents in this country cracking down on protests in portland. maybe on the move. the governor says federal authorities have agreed to withdraw the forces tomorrow afternoon. the department of homeland security says the feds are staying there for now. also tonight atlanta the city that became the center of non-violent resistance during the civil rights struggle is paying tribute to the law congress john lewis. his funeral will be there tomorrow. president obama will deliver the eulo

. >> this morning at the white house, trump claimed colin powells with the bush administration figure who called it a fake issue. that was not true. in fact, on this network powell only talked about media coverage report. trump also added the about the reports of russian bounties. >> i don't know why they would be doing it, but if you're telling me they're doing it, aisle certainly take that under consideration. [ inaudible ] . >> i would respond appropriately. nobody has been tougher on russia. >> on another front the administration confirms it intends to withdraw 12,000 troops from germany, something many believe has been at the top of vladimir putin's wish list for years. those militarized federal agents in this country cracking down on protests in portland may also be on the move. the federal government says they would leave but the department of homeland security said they're staying there for now. also, atlanta, the city that was in the cybil rights strigle is paying tribute to congressman john lewis. his funeral will take place tomorrow. barack obama is delivering the eulogy. >

i wish colin powell had run for elected office.hink he would have been a remarkable president of the united states. he was a fine secretary of state and chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, a remarkable individual in so many ways. i think there is room for superb service from senior military in an administration elected and appointed. >> host: we begin with jim, you're on with admiral james stavridis. >> caller: thanks for taking my call. i want to say i was impressed by your use of the word kindness. this is not a quality i associate with military figures and it is quite wonderful. my question is how far in advance does the military plan in terms of weapon system strategy? how many decades, and on a related note how can we defuse what looks to be increasingly growing tension with china in the south china sea? two carrier groups going there now and i would like your thoughts on that. >> host: are you former navy? >> caller: i am not. >> guest: thanks for your question. that is a hard question on both counts. first of all planning

. >> former secretary of state colin powell. >> he spent his whole adult life fighting these issues. and going after racism. and so a man with that kind of bravery built into him is an incredible individual and he was. and i think we will always be remembering what he did for our nation. what he did for our people. >> major, there say candle light vigil set here at the john lewis memorial mural but already there are calls to rename the edmund pettus bridge after him as well. as you remember, it was on that bridge in march of 1965 that he lead protestors across from selma to montgomery as they were fighting for their voting rights. they were met with opposition from law enforcement. and it is that moment that became known as bloody sunday. >> garrett: michelle, with congressman lewis' passing, the question looms, what does it mean for the continuing fight for racial and social equality in america right now? >> lewis was an incredible ally to the next generation, whether it was with immigration or gun control or gay rights. he was the man who was always willing to reach across some oth

one, he says that colin powell said the intelligence regarding russian bounties regarding soldiers in afghanistan wasn't true. that's not what he said. he said he did not think it was as serious as portrayed in the media. we should note that the u.s. military did act on it by increasing force protection in afghanistan. other points here, poppy, notable that he doubles down on list support for the doctor who he re-tweeted regarding disinformation about masks and so on. this, of course, the doctor who had other portions involving alien, et cetera. he is very impressed with her and also i think poppy notable there to see deep disagreements not just on the party on additional stimulus and not just with the other party and democrats on additional stimulus, but within the republican party. those divisions still seem to stand. >> absolutely. important fact checks and a lot more that we need to do. let's bring in our team of experts to help us do that. we've got john harwood, lauren fox, dr. seema yasmin, josh campbell and the political reporter for axios. can everyone hear me? >> i can hear

whether it was benjamins davis sr., colin powell, tuskegee airmens. we sacrificed most for this nation's freedoms. oftentimes, fighting for freedoms we did not appreciate at home. for world war ii veterans. they came home. many returned to the south, only for them to leave. for there were a group of world war ii veterans who stayed in the south and they fought and we fight for this nation, for freedom, and we are still fighting in this nation for the freedoms that we fought for abroad. >> and kate anderson brower, you've spoken with this family. you know them. will the president be happy with tonight? >> i think that, you know, he's, obviously -- he's obviously reaching for his base. and that is always what he's done over the past three and a half years in office. he's not interested in talking to the rest of the country. i think the problem is that he doesn't read history as doug said earlier. and that he doesn't have a sense of his history that i think would better ground him in what's happening today. >> dr. harris, quickly, if you will, what do yo

i wish colin powell has choked to run for elective office. he would have been a remarkable president of the united states. he was a fine secretary of state as well as chairman of the joint chiefs of staff. really remarkable individual in so many ways. i think there's room for superb service from senior military in an administration both elective and appointed. >> host: let's hear what our callers say. we'll begin with jim and caliente, california, your on with admiral james stavridis. >> caller: thank you for taking my call. admiral i was impressed by your use of the word kindness. not a quality i normally associate with military figures, and i think it's quite wonderful. my question is, how far in advance does the military plan in terms of weapon system strategy and so forth, hauck decades, and kind of in a related note, how can we diffuse what looks to be increasingly growing tension with china in the area of the south china sea. i notice two carriers going there now. and i just leak your thoughts on that. thank you again jo jim, are you fo

to vote for the candidate, you know, john kerry, whomever, you can't turn around and vote for colin powellother state laws. and the supreme court today said those laws are a-okay. they reasoned basically that, lawrence, yes, hamilton talked about having a deliberative body and the like, but for practice it hasn't worked out that way. there have been 32,000 votes cast since the founding for one presidential candidate or another, and only 180 of them have ever been faithless, that is switched the vote from the party that had put them into office and indeed of those 180 one-third of those were in a single election in 1872 where the candidate really managed to die after election day. so it made much more sense to have switched votes there. so as a result, the bottom line is the supreme court today said states can bind electors to the party that selected them to go to the electoral college. and that avoided what otherwise would have been a disaster because, you know, sometimes you can have very close times in the electoral college. like in 2000, there were five electoral votes selected between

this is a point that colin powell, a former joined chiefs chairman, made in the interview with me as well. they were not defending americans, they were killing americans. >> there's no question that general milley is doing the right thing. there is a bipartisan committee and armed services committee on the senate side. i think true on the house side. i think secretary esper is supportive of. i think there is a recognition it's time to move into the 21st century, review the names of these posts. and identify war heroes that really represented a united country and that fought alongside of our military as it is today, regardless of race or color or creed or gender or sexual preference. the fact is we have all of those people serving in our military. there is no reason why our military posts ought not to be named after individuals that reflect that military that we have in the 21st century. >> now, i also want to ask you about joe biden and his proposals yesterday, his buy american plan. he is talking about investing $700 billion and trying to revive the economy in the midst of this pand

colin powell says that's not true and other people say it's not true.ere true i would be very angry about it. but if you look at russia, they lost a fortune and a lot of people. so i don't know why they will be doing that, but nobody has been tougher on russia. no one has been tougher on russia and china including our allies, and nato, where we got to pay $140 billion. you know why? no one has been tougher on russia than i have. and they've been off the years, and the united states has been taken advantage of. and i'm here and i've been straining it out. but germany owes billions and billions of dollars to nato. now germany is saying it's bad for the economy. germany is delinquent, and they have taken advantage of us for many years. i was all set to fix that and then we got hit with the china plague. but we will be fixing it. >> reporter: [inaudible question] >> president trump: we will see what happens. >> are you planning on -- of the fbi? you don't want to be too far away. i said the best place is right where it is, the best piece of property in wash

deputy chief of staff, he is very involved between secretary right in security advisor and he had colin powell who got expelled in cheney's vice president and i mentioned earlier the bush domestic team in week three, the foreign policy team was rightfully in insight, the vice president was important part of that, the vice president, i just really seen to a serious situation with the vice president he was able -- sometimes they are involved. >> we have a lot of questions coming in, i'll try to get to as many african and we need to try to keep it short so we can get to more of them. if you answer the question have something to say, were happy to have you share your wisdom as well, i have a question from gabby g, which white house had the biggest fight that impacted execution of policy? >> i would like to go with the florida administration, it is really paralyzed by the inciting, i mentioned the instances of robert hartman. your presidential addresses including state of the union that would not get resolved because of the inside and it's one where the night before the state of the union and yelli

i'm not particularly surprised by colin powell.very democrat since barack obama in 2008. but mullen and especially mattis i'm surprised at. mattis wrote a memoir, either earlier this year, late last year, and a lot of people were disappointed. because, remember, he resigned because of a policy disagreement over pulling troops out of syria. and it was clear he was not very happy with the president. and when he wrote his memoir, a lot of people-- including myself-- were disappointed that he didn't say what he had to say about donald trump. and he said, "i think i owe him the duty of silence," which i understood as kind of a military honor that "i served him as the secretary of defense, and i'm not going to undercut him in the middle of his presidency, especially the term that i served with him, during." and that broke this week. and it broke because he was just fed up with what he felt was the president's divisive nature. he said that, "i've been in service to the country for decades." i guess probably half a century for him, too. an

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he was deputy chief he is very involved in the clash of the titans between secretary rice and colin powell and donald rumsfeld heard a mention earlier in team got along the port engine foreign policy the vice president was an important part of that. the vice president i just really liked into a serious situation with the vice president was able to tamp down conflicts. but sometimes he vice president is involved. civic thank you. great, with a lot of questions coming in salt try to get to as many as we can take it we can keep it short so we can get to some more of them. but also like to answer the question or have something to say we are happy to have you share your wisdom as well. i have another question hear from gabby g. which white house has the biggest fight that actually impacted policy? so i would sit with the ford administration on that the ford administration was powerline by the inviting. i some of the instances you had presidential addresses including states of the union that did not get resolved because of of some of the infighting. there is one there is the night before the sta

tomorrow, my big guest, colin powell. join me then. amin mohyeldin joins me now. >> we are following a lot of breaking news today. let's get the facts as we know them at this hour. the white house coronavirus task force just held a briefing. vice president mike pence saying they are seeing early indications of percent positive testing flattening in arizona, florida, and texas. but as the pandemic rages, dr. birx urged americans to wear face coverings. >>> the number of people in the u.s. who have contracted the coronavirus has now passed 3 million people. more than

colin powell is not exactly somebody i'm a big fan of. colin powell says it's not true.rue. if it were true, i would be very angry about it. you look at russia, russia became russia from the soviet union. they lost a fortune and a lot of people. a lot of people. so i don't know why they would be doing that but i would certainly take that under . president trump: i would spend appropriately. nobody ththat's been tougher on russia, nobody has been tougher on china, nobody has been tougher on iran than me and it is not even close. everybody knows it. nobody has been tougher on russia, china, or anybody else than me. including our allies, nato, who i got to pay -- stuart: i was getting seasick as the shot moved around all over the place. i couldn't quite hear everything that was being said. we had to drop that. i apologize. president is saying to the big city mayors if you don't secure your city, we'll do it. they are a bunch of agitators and anarchists, and we'll clear it out. that is what he said to the nations mayors. we'll have lot more "varney" after this. look, this is

senator tom cotton on biden's economic plan and i want to ask about the former secretary of state colin powell now weighing in on the rush of bounty story. he reacted by saying this. watch. >> our military commanders on the ground did not think that it was as serious a problem as the newspapers were reporting and television was reporting. remember, is not the intelligence community that will go fight these guys. it's the guys on the ground. got almost hysterical in the first few days. >> sandra: so let us know where you stand on this because we've been talking to you throughout that story as it was breaking as it developed and now we are at this place where we have colin powell saying that an mark esper is asked about it, the defense secretary and he said he never received a briefing about russia with the word bounty involved and in fact, now telling congress that he's launched an investigation into these leaks across the pentagon in response to what he said were bad disclosures. so where are we in all of this? >> as general powell said, there was a hysterical overreaction by the media and the

he and two others cast their electoral college ballots for colin powell. the vote resulted in a $1000 fine. justice elena kagan authored the majority opinion for the court. the argument was heard via teleconference because of the coronavirus pandemic in may of 2020. this ruling also applies to a similar case, colorado department of state versus baca. >> the honorable, the chief justice and associate justices of the supreme court of the united states. oh yea, oh yea, oh yea, all persons having business before the honorable, the supreme court of the united states are admonished to give their attention for the court is now sitting. god save the united states and this honorable court. chief justice roberts: we will hear argument first this morning in case 19-465, chiafalo and others versus the state of washington. mr. lessig: may it please this court. the question in these cases is straightforward. do states have the power to control, through law how an elector may vote? they do not. the expected meaning of the words of the constitution against the background

portland's pottery bill, that was used by a colin powell to warn george bush of the consequences of invading iraq. basically, you break it and you own it. i think my argument is that when donald trump intervenes it becomes a convenient excuse for these failed mayors. he is right and all his criticism, they will immediately dump the blame on him for the problem and that will shift the attention away from him and any accountability for them back to the president. look. the president sort of adheres to the pottery barn rule when it comes to overseas. he doesn't want u.s. troops -- he tries to get them out whenever he can but he doesn't think he could do it but if you can't do it in afghanistan, but the government that is not fully cooperative and supportive, it's going to be even harder in the cities where you have democratic cities, where you have people undermining you at every opportunity which is what we are seeing in portland. >> he was asked about it yesterday, is the president talking about potential outcomes in november and we referred to what you just talked about, liking likening it t

he and two others cast their electoral college ballots for colin powell.he vote resulted in a $1000 fine. justice elena kagan authored the majority opinion for the court. the argument was heard via teleconference because of the coronavirus pandemic in may of 2020. this ruling also applies to a similar case, colorado department of state versus baca.

tomorrow, my big guest, colin powell. join me then. amin mohyeldin joins me now. >> we are following a lot of breaking news today. let's get the facts as we know them at this hour. the white house coronavirus task force just held a briefing. vice president mike pence saying they are seeing early indications of percent positive testing flattening in arizona, florida, and texas. but as the pandemic rages, dr. birx urged americans to wear face coverings. >>> the number of people in the u.s. who have contracted the coronavirus has now passed 3 million people. more than 132,000 have died so far. and as the president pushes towards reopening schools in the fall, nbc news has just learned that the white house plans to issue its own guidelines for the reopening of schools, because officials say the ones released by the cdc are too restrictive. we have a lot to cover this entire hour. i'm going to be joined by joe fryer. he is live at a coronavirus testing center in los angeles. we're going to check in with him in just a moment. but we want to

let's start with the first chairman of the joint chiefs, colin powell, he fought honorably in vietnamnd for this country for years you could maybe chappy james the first four star general in the united tuskegee airman or you can the first -- the first casualty of the revolutionary war -- >> black man. >> shot down by british troops at the boston massacre he's had a monument up since 1888 this is not revolutionary thinking, but for donald trump, he has no idea it would never occur to him to name that base after a black war hero >> and you're correct, from chris padox to powell. we're looking at the real racial thinkings and feelings of this president. because to suddenly say that the north and the south fought, they fought over slavery they fought over enslaving people just on their race. this is not a fight that happened as a cultural side show, this was about human bondage and he acts like we're to celebrate that and say it is part of the nation's story it is and it's a sad, despicable part of the nation's story and to say it's free speech, it's free racist speech to hold up a flag o

bush was asked why he didn't go to colin powell and ask his direct opinion whether they should go intoponse was, correct me if i'm wrong, maybe 17 years later my memory fails me, but i believe president bush's response was, i knew how he felt. basically, he was against the war, so i didn't have to ask him. >> sure. and, you know, what's infuriating about that is that, yes, he knew, but it wasn't intentionally interesting to the. the to find out why it was that powell was that was. powell wasn't being that way to be difficult. powell didn't embrace the point of view this was a bad idea just to be a contrarian. he was deeply concerned about what it would do to the region, that it could be sloppy. now, the one thing powell did not point out, because i don't think powell recognized it himself, was just how off-base the intelligence was. i think powell, like everybody else in the administration, was of the belief that saddam possessed weapons of mass destruction. in a lot of ways 9/11 is referred to as a failure of the imagination. i think what happened here was the opposite. in the wake of