whitman and as i mentioned before of the progressive luminary that is former secretary of state colin powell we what does this say about the state of the democratic party when some of their biggest guest speakers are well. republicans. but well i think it's just beautiful tyrrel to see the 2 parties getting along like this you know they they agree on still my people act like they're at each other's throats or there's some kind of battle here but you know if you look at the the 1st of all the republicans showing up at the d.n.c. but on top of that if you look at the stuff that's not being mentioned at both conventions because apparently it doesn't need discussing and meaning both parties agree on it well that's a lot of the core issues of this country you know like largest surveillance state in the world never really mentioned corporations buying elections not talked about anymore are endless wars are really disguised a 1000 military bases around the world not just because pentagon failed its audit cool with that wall street run wild environmental collabs capitalism apparently doesn't have an

course who can forget last week's powerful indorsement of joe biden by former secretary of state colin powell the gravity of this moment. is matched by the gravity of the threat that iraq's weapons of mass destruction pose to the world. let me now turn to those deadly weapons programs and describe why they are real and present dangers to the region and to the world powerful argument by bob call and joining us today to discuss the political convention circuit. on the road to election day and here in the u.s. is the host of productive tonight the one and only lead camp lee thank you as always for joining us. tyrrell good to see you again. this year's democratic national convention featured progressive socialist leftist luminaries like former ohio governor john k. search and former he would packard c.e.o. meg whitman and as i mentioned before the progressive luminary that is former secretary of state colin powell we what does this say about the state of the democratic party when some of their biggest guest speakers are well. republicans. well i think it's just beautiful tie around to see the 2 p

that chart ended up being used by colin powell to sort of justify the invasion into iraq. colin powell has since then said it was a misuse of information. >> it wasn't that chart exactly, though, right? it had been altered? >> it was that exact chart. the title of the chart was changed. google this. it was something else that i was surprised the cia let me in, but maybe i'm thinking maybe it absolves them of it. and they're not perfect, but the title of the chart was something different. >> what was it originally? >> i don't think i can say that. >> what did it ended up being? >> it says iraq bio. >> can you say if the word "iraq" was on the chart before? >> it was not. >> how did you not call "new york times" the next day? >> so someone on twitter called me a coward, actually for not doing that, but -- and maybe i am. i don't know. i was 23. i'm not excusing that, but i think for me i have so much respect for my colleagues and for the agency, that's really not the right thing to do. that really wasn't the right time to do it. i don't feel remorse -- regret about the decis

comes to our office and wanted a copy of that chart ended up being the chart, used by colin powell to and it was given to them. and that justify the invasion. chart ended up being used by powell to justify the invasion into iraq. and colin powell has said it was a misuse -- colin >> it powell since admitted it was wasn't just that chart exactly though, it had to a misuse be altered. >>. it was that exact chart title, >> it was not that chart exactly, right? >> the title of the chart was changed. you can look it up. you can look it up actually. this was something else i was surprised the cia let me it was put in. something else that i was surprised the maybe it is because it cia let me absolves them. , but i guess i'm thinking i do not know. maybe because -- they are not perfect, but i don't know the title of the chart was something different. and they're not perfect. the title of the chart -- >> what was it originally? >> i can't say that. what would it >> what was it end up being. originally? it >> i don't says iraq bio, if you look it up that's what it think i can say. that says. >>

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but david, even colin powell, who is only remembered for what happened at the u.n., george w. bush was asked why he didn't seek colin powell's council more on the second iraq war, he said i knew he was against it. i knew he didn't want us to go in there. and it was colin powell that had the show down with our friend madeleine albright talking about toy soldiers. again, the general who had been through vietnam, as so many of these generals had been through vietnam, no. no. war is a last resort. and david, haven't you found that time and time again? as donald trump insults our men and women in uniform, it is the generals, the admirals who have seen war who are the last ones that want to go back there? >> joe, you put it exactly right. there's a deep -- a conservativism and caution among people who have ordered their troops into battle and had to pick them up off that battlefield. just think about the little sound bite we heard from yesterday. put aside jeffrey goldberg's excellent reporting, and put aside the fox news reporter who found these same terms, suckers for going to vie

read them so perhaps they could learn some of the things that made jeff bezos, david petraeus or colin powelln only succeed if it has really good leaders, and i think it's important we make certain our young leaders are getting ready to assume leadership when they're older. what i wanted to do in the book was to say what are the qualities that people have in common who are great leaders, and i learned many of them have many things in common. one, they typically failed early in life, they weren't superstars when they were very young. they have persisted, persisted, per suggestioned. next they also learn how to improve their brain all the time, always reading, always learning more. they also learned that humility is important, and you have to be humble because you pick yourself up and realize you're not perfect. and many of them also learned how to share the credit, how to inspire people, and they have a vision of where they want to go and communicate that with people. many people willing to talk about their failures, in fact, they enjoy talking about their failures as much as their successes.

and so that was the view at the highest level in the cia, as you may recall, colin powell then secretaryof state, gave that famous speech at the united nations in which he held up a little bottle and said you known and this is what iraq has an powell has since said that is his most embarrassing, his worst moment in his tenure, not only as a military officer but as secretary of state. i should have been more aggressive. i should have been, quite frankly, in that story i cited in "the washington post" i should have understood when you don't have smoking gun intelligence you are not sure and you will go to war on that basis -- anyway. >> host: onto christopher, oh, supporting the biden harris ticket. go ahead, customer. >> caller: okay. good morning to you both. massive respect for just the washington journal in and of itself to do this. the last thing i thought i be doing this morning was asking bob woodward a question. okay. there has been, we know over 200,000 deaths from covid-19 and i want to know personally, do you feel any response ability for publicly withholding the information tha

colin powell, then secretary of state, gave that famous speech at the united nations in which he held up a little bottle and said this contains a chemical weapon. this is what iraq has. it is his since said most embarrassing moment, his worst moment in his tenure not only as a military officer, but i secretary of state. state.as secretary of i should have been more aggressive. quite frankly, in that story, i should have understood when you don't have smoking gun intelligence, you are not sure, and you will go to war on that basis anyway. host: christopher in oklahoma. supporting the biden-harris ticket. caller: good morning to you both. massive respect for the washington journal in and of itself for us to be able to do this. the last thing i thought i would be doing this morning is asking bob woodward a question. over has been we know 200,000 deaths from covid-19. personally, do you feel any responsibility for publicly withholding the information that donald trump initially disclosed to you early on about the virus? after it got time for your book to come out, but also in the initial

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and so that was the view at the highest level in the cia, as you may recall, colin powell, then secretary of state, gave that famous speech at the united nations in which he held up a little bottle. and said, you know, this contains a chemical weapon, and this is what iraq has. powell has since said it is his most embarrassing -- his worst moment in his tenure, not only as a military officer, but as secretary of state. so, i should have been more aggressive. i should have been, quite frankly, if that story i cited in "the washington post," i should have understood when you don't have smoking gun intelligence, you don't -- you're not sure. and you're going to go to war on that basis anyway. >> all right. we'll go on to christopher in oklahoma supporting the biden/harris ticket. go ahead, christopher. >> caller: okay. good morning to you both. and massive respect for just the "washington journal" in and of itself for us to be able to do it. the last thing i thought i'd be doing this morning is asking bob woodward a question, okay? there's been, as we know, over 200,000 deaths to covid-19. i

colin powell, mrs. mccain, former governor kasich. we need republican leaders to stand up every single day to the destruction of our democracy that's going on in washington, not passive single statements that are going to allow women's reproductive freedoms to go by the wayside for the next 30 or 40 years. i amateur bli frightens for my daughter and the young women across this state. i would be daily speaking out to make sure voices are heard by governors and leaders across the country to protect that right. >> this is a question from joann in johnson. joann sent us a lot of information about the state college system which she says is significantly underfunded and asserts the state is not living up to its statutory obligation to support the state system in whole or in part with state funds. joann asks what is your plan to help the state college system survive now and in the future? david zuckerman. >> i think there's a number of things we need to do. we clearly need to put forward the bridge funding that the governor did not put in ei

we saw at the convention, we've got colin powell, militaristic, still part of that coalition.'s not my political friend. he's a brother. i'm a christian. i try to love everybody, you know. we've got my dear brother bob avakian, revolutionary communist party, and carl dix, all now talking about voting for biden, against the fascist, but not fetishizing the vote, not thinkiking that somehow biden is going to be this salvific fifigure or eveven biden has principles and integrity that relate to poor and working people. brother ben knows that the mass incarceration regime, you had a whole lot of precious folk who went to jail who stuttered, because of biden. you've got a whole lot of folk who stuttered in iraq, who were killed, because of biden's s support. we have to be honest about those issues that relate to t the soul of america. you can't have a soul with massive militarism. you can'n't have a soul with massiveve wall street gree. these e are fundamental issues. ben and i haveve talked about ts on the campaign with brother bernie. amy: we are going to get final l comments, but

former bush administration secretary of state colin powell endorsed former vice president joe biden lastt the democratic nation convention and said quote, on day one he will restore america's leadership and our moral authority, then added, by finally ending those wars i helped start like 20 years ago, probably time to wrap those up during an event yesterday, commemorating the 100th anniversary of the women's right toot michelle obama and said she was quote, in over her head. i don't know about that. she went to harvard law. she could easily be the next president if she wanted to and instead, she just produces shows for netflix. if anything, she's in way, way under her head when she was asked in a new interview, if she plans on leaving congress after this term, house speaker nancy pelosi said, quote, you are starting to sound like my husband. to which the interviewer responded, nancy, you know i don't appreciate that tone the senate intelligence committee yesterday released its final report on the russian interference in the 2016 election. oh, great, just in time. the senate intelligence

joined by colonel lawrence wilkerson who served as chief of staff to former secretary of state colin powell. and colonel, you've been around the highest level of sort of civilian political appointed leadership in an administration, very high levels of the armed services. what's your reaction to what is happening now both in terms of the actual content and what it means about what's happening beneath the surface? >> chris, let me say one thing first. the interview you just did with jeffrey and the interview yesterday that paul bernstein and jeffrey did were the best modern disquisition if you will on the need of a democracy for the media, for journalists like jeffrey and like these others i've ever heard. and i think that's important to get that point out there. and their defense of anonymous sources, especially carl bernstein, he was eloquent in his defense of the anonymous sources, for example, he and bob woodward used when they essentially helped to get rid of president nixon during the watergate crisis. so i think that is an important point to make. i want to emphasize that point. it's t

army veteran who everybodied as chief of staff to colin powell. and barbara mcquade, a professor at the university of michigan law school and an msnbc legal analyst. her latest piece in new york magazine gets at the heart of who congruent stories, ginsburg example shows us how to save our democracy. thank you to both of you for joining us. carl, let me start with you, sir. there has been talking, we have heard that there's some people in the pentagon talking informally about what to do if donald trump invokes the insurrection act after the election, if he loses during the time when he is a lame duck president and how the military is supposed to respond to that. you are part of a group that has thought this through, thought through what the transfer of power looks like after the election. tell me your thoughts please, sir. >> your first point, ali, i think the military is going to act in accordance with the constitution. so i don't have deep concern about how the military might act. hey do have deep concern about now, even though collin powell was

the question is, with these comments, in addition to former generals, former military members, colin powelljim mattis coming out saying this guy is not a good guy. he's not good for the military, is that going to be enough to, in effect, see the polling numbers we're seeing now come into effect. we still have 57 days of campaigning and this, for better or worst, is probably going to get lost in other drama forthcoming. so the question is, will this stick for the next two months. >> you've got joe biden that wants to make sure it's not lost, that they're pouncing on this opportunity. matt, according to axios, the biden campaign investing in these ads in five swing states. here's part of what they'll see. let's watch. >> his son beau served a year in iraq. he stood up to dictators. stood with our allies and will protect american values. he'll be a president who will provide strong, steady leadership from day one. >> all right, might look familiar. that ad is from january. but the biden campaign is relaunching it in the wake of all of this. voters within five -- 50 miles of bases like ft. mcco

. >> talk about colin powell. >> colin powell overcame discrimination.e went off the base. he was wounded twice in vietnam. yet he rose up to become the leading military figure in our country, the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff and oversaw the successful victory in kicking iraq out of kuwait, but obviously was tarnished a bit by going before the u.n. and talking about weapons of mass destruction several years later when secretary of state. he's recognized that's something people will always talk about with respect to what he's done. but on the whole, his american story is an american story of somebody coming from very modest means, not spectacular education and ultimately turned out to be one of the people that most people in this country admire. >> another person you can talk about, obviously, having a mark on their public record that might overshadow all the good that they did, david petraeus. here's a general who -- and we have a blind spot. and i think we need to recognize this. we have a blind spot in american history because the first three

and i will close on another one who kind of got the way i think and that would be colin powell.ei wish she had chosen to run r elective office. he would have been a remarkable president of the united states. he was a fine secretary of state as well as chairman of the joint chiefs of staff. really a remarkable individual in so many ways, so i think that there's room for superb service from senior military in an administration. >> host: let's hear what the calls begin to say. we'll start with chairman caliente california. you are on the side from james stavridis. >> caller: thank you for taking my call. first i just want to say how impressed i was with your use of the word kindness. this isn't a quality i normally associate with military figures, and i think it is quite wonderful. my question is how far in advance does the military plan in terms off what strategy and o far and so on so many decades and kind of on a related note, how can we defuse what looks to be increasingly growing tensioni with china and the area of the south china sea and i know there are two carrier groups go

colin powell, then secretary of state, gave that famous speech at the united nations in which he heldlittle bottle and said this contains a chemical weapon. this is what iraq has. it is his since said most embarrassing moment, his worst moment in his tenure not only as a military officer, but i secretary of state. state.as secretary of i should have been more aggressive. quite frankly, in that story, i should have understood when you don't have smoking gun intelligence, you are not sure, and you will go to war on that basis anyway. host: christopher in oklahoma. supporting the biden-harris ticket. caller: good morning to you both. massive respect for the washington journal in and of itself for us to be able to do this. the last thing i thought i would be doing this morning is asking bob woodward a question. over has been we know 200,000 deaths from covid-19. personally, do you feel any responsibility for publicly withholding the information that donald trump initially disclosed to you early on about the virus? after it got time for your book to come out, but also in the initial period

i think if barry had been president --i think he would have come in with what later became the colin powelline. in my documentary he even says -- if you're going to go to war, you have to go to war with the attitude that you want to win it in the next hour. that was his attitude. then he said, we lost the war in vietnam for one reason. the politicians tried to run the war. in his quote. and politicians don't know their ass from a hot rock about running a war. that was his quote. and i think he would have taken a far more aggressive approach to it as compared to johnson's gradualism, which dragged out almost as long as our current wars. host: let me take his .1 step further, what kind of president would he have in? >> very would have been something we don't see too often today, he would have been a very honest president. i think he would have been very candid as he was his whole life. that was the way he campaigned, the way he sat in office, the way he was after office. i think the candor is something that people loved about barry goldwater. it is one of the reasons that so many people salt

. >> colin powell -- >> he is a great soldier and doesn't know anything about business. >> i don't want to sit here and listen to you just take shots at president clinton. >> if we keep shipping our manufacturing jobs across the border and around the world, and the industrializing -- deindustrialized our country, we will not be able to defend this great country. and that is a risk we will never take. >> he started off as head of the united we stand and i'm afraid he's going to end up as head of divided we fall. everything that he is worried about will get worse if nafta is defeated. this is an historic opportunity to do that. >> thank you both for this historic evening. >> carolyn barta, body language in that clip from "larry king live" is really interesting to watch. we looked at some reporting. and it suggests that support for nafta before that debate was about -- was only about 34%. and after, i'm not sure directly related but after it went up to 57% among the american public. what was the view of how ross perot fared with this issue? >> you know, i really can't say. i don't recall -

out to disaffected republicans, remember all those republicans that showed up at the convention, colin powellh, instead of appealing to progressive voters. what they say is absolutely true. unless those progressives show up on november 3rd and vote for joe biden he is not going to win. so this was a goof because this has been played all over social media and, by the way, aoc is a person who said, in a normal place i wouldn't be in the same party as joe biden. so this is a real divide in the democrat party. they need turnout. they're not going to get it if joe biden continues this line. ashley: yeah. that divide is growing wider as we speak. next one for you, liz, joe biden refusing to talk about who he would nominate to fill the ginsburg's seat. he was asked about it by a local news reporter in wisconsin. here is how he responded. this is the full quote. it says, he says it is a legitimate question but let me tell you why i'm not going to answer that question, because, it will shift all the focus. that is what he wants. he never wants to talk about the issue at hand. he always tries to change