still with me are colin robertson, kathy jones, jim keenan. n, you are looking for a really bad number next friday. why? colin: with not a lot of support that things are getting better, the forecast will have overshot where we will be. about 85,000. i would be inclined to think that would be closer to zero than 85,000. importantly, i want to see the revisions. that would feed into my thought process that things look better than people think. jonathan: where would you be looking to see that things are not as good? colin: the revisions coming down. jonathan: nowhere else in the payrolls report? colin: that stuff is messier. i want to look at the specifics. kathy: we are looking at the consensus, closer to 75 and 85. -- closer to 75 than 85. it will be a messy report because of the gm strike, other factors. even in the hours worked, average hourly earnings, it may be hard to parse through. but it is slowing down. employment growth is slowing down, we know that. jim: manufacturing, some things in autos, we see in the data, it will be a week number.

still with me colin robertson, kathy jones, and jim keenan. you are looking for a bad number next friday, why and what? colin: i think with not a lot of support that things are getting better. i think the forecast overshot where we will be. and about 85,000 i would be much more inclined to think it will be closer to zero than 85,000. i am on senior revisions because that would feed into my process that things look better than people think. jonathan: where would you look elsewhere outside of the headline number? colin: the revisions coming down. jonathan: just on the headline numbers? stuff isat other messier, i want to look at the specifics of the headline. at under are looking the consensus closer to 70 or 75 than 85 area it will be a messy report because of the gm strike and several other factors. even in the hours worked and average hourly earnings it might be hard to parse through exactly what is happening. it is slowing down. employment growth is slowing down. because of manufacturing and some of the autos, it is going to be a week number