joining me colleen mccain nelson, jonathan martin and anne gearan. >> if you'rmu joe biden and you're seeing bernie sanders, an avowed socialist from vermont and who is 74 years old, he is drawing these crowds, has this real organic energy and he is proving hillary clinton has real vulnerabilities within the democratic primary process, you're joe biden, you see that, you have to think long and hard about running. >> rose: we conclude with a conversation about chinese currency, american manufacturing and many other things with the c.e.o. of dow chemical company, andrew liveris. >> massively important we stay agile, nimble and entrepreneurial in this sort of volatility. this world we have, uncertainty and volatility is not going away. we're traveling at the speed of live, is the term i like to leave. the internet, interconnectedness, all the books that have been written, the heart beat away is an issue. everything sin stant. how do you deal with that? you have to have a culture that deck side in the moment what the right thing to do is. >> rose: the american political campaign and runni

us on the phone now is one of the reporters who worked on that "wall street journal" story, colleen mccain nelson. appreciate your time in joining us this morning on "the washington journal." >> thanks for having me. >> so talk about the headline in "the wall street journal" that joe biden is sounding out his allies. which allies in particular are we hearing about? >> well, it's interesting. he's vacationing this week in south carolina. we all assumed that he would be talking with his family and weighing this decision, but he's actually doing more than that. he's been reaching out to political allies, people who have backed his previous presidential campaigns, people he has built relationships with over the years in the white house, and he is talking to them about just kind of the logistical challenge he would face if he launched a campaign at this late date. so it's a shift in what we've seen in the past. previously people were coming to joe biden and urging him to run, and he was kind of just listening and taking that in, but now we see him proactively seeking people out and asking them questio