college park georgia. the potters house t. d. jakes, 30,000, dallas, texas. are those prosperity gospel churches. >> absolute. any of the ones -- helpful shorthand to where to find these churches are all prosperity churches. most of them will make the top 50 of the largest churches in the country. >> all tax-exempt? >> they are entrepreneurial in spirit. the churches themselves are tax-exempt, but what they typically do if they're famous, t. d. jakes has t. d. jakes kerch and t. d. jakes enterprises. is a great example is he's a producer, probably a writer, a film writer and, and there's all kinds of fingers in different pots. >> that's the taxable side of? >> that's right. they will say don't look at me necessary as an example of someone who's taking money out of the coffers. i'm making my money money from this other wing. that is sometimes true for some and it's less true for others. they don't really have to justify how much money they make in part because of the theological infrastructure of moving. all they had to say is look, i did it and i can show you