. >> susie: joining us now with more analysis on apple, and those microsoft earnings, collin gillis, technology analyst at b.g.c. partners. thely for apple their growth is slowing down. it is not the type of growth that wall street labels growth stock. when you see that market sell-off today it has put apple evaluation clearly into the value territory. >> susie: all right but let's just say that apple comes out with a bunch of really cool new products maybe that ame tv we keep hearing about. would that make apple a growth stock again? >> you know and so there's always that potential. you know what investors need to see is what is the innovation that's going to be coming out of apple in the future. and that level of innovation isn't is in question right now. we haven't seen any new dynamic products that have introduced new revenue streams. it's all been about the iphone and ipad. >> susie: so let's talk about the stock. big sell-off today as we reported. you have a hold on apple. you dropped your target today from 575 a share to 550. but does apple go lower from here? >> you know we l

. >> susie: joining us now with more analysis on apple, and those microsoft earnings, collin gillis, technology analyst at b.g.c. partners. thely for apple their growth is slowing down. it is not the type of growth that wall street labels growth stock. when you see that market sell-off today it has put apple evaluation clearly into the value territory. >> susie: all right but let's just say that apple comes out with a bunch of really cool new products, maybe that ame tv we keep hearing about. would that make apple a growth stock again? >> you know, and so there's always that potential. you know, what investors need to see is what is the innovation that's going to be coming out of apple in the future. and that level of innovation isn't is in question right now. we haven't seen any new dynamic products that have introduced new revenue streams. it's all been about the iphone and ipad. >> susie: so let's talk about the stock. big sell-off today as we reported. you have a hold on apple. you dropped your target today from 575 a share to 550. but does apple go lower from here? >> you know,

around the world and joining us from the blackberry in downtown new york, senior tech analyst collin gillisring, some pretty good reviews and is it too much of a change? walt mossburg and the journal will say you won't even recognize it based on the old blackberry? >> that is right. the good news is this is a nice product. when you hold the phone it feels nice, the operating system is fluid but the bad news is it is a brand new platform and also not even available for sale in the united states until march. dennis: that is a surprise. go ahead. >> the other part is the pricing, the $5.99 price point on a subsidized basis compares when you are a consumer you can maybe go out and purchase the google nexus iv, the latest flagship android phone unsubsidized google for $2.99, half the price. is not available until march ended expensive. dennis: this was the $140 stock in the last five years, blackberry at $70 two years ago from $15 but yet you say we should get rid of it. >> unfortunately there will be a fair number of people who will want this new phone but in order for them to reach volume unit