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with us tonight our gun control activist collin goddard. he was shot four times during the virginia tech massacre and now works for mayors against illegal guns. he's here along with gun rights advocate larry pratt, the executive owner of gun openers of america. what law do you think might have blocked or stopped yesterday? >> i think we have to be careful and not try to have this discussion or set our national policy based on the last mass shooting that just happened. we failed those people, those people are already dead. we need to do things to prevent the next group of people from getting shot and killed, the people that will be killed today, tomorrow, next month. that's how we should have this conversation and what measures will stop the most dangerous people from obtaining firearms in the first place. >> but as you just hear, he passed the background check. >> there's no one policy that's going to stop all gun crimes, but what i think makes the most sense, what law enforcement tells us is requiring that same background check against all

tonight's guests, collin goddard, and larry pratt who heads gun owners of america.t do anything? tonight on crossfire. >> welcome to crossfire. i'm newt gingrich on the right. >> and i'm stephanie cutter on the left. today we are struggling to make sense of yet another mass shooting. a gunman killed 12 people and wounded eight others. something that really summed it up for me was this plea from the doctor at one of the hospitals that treated some of the victims. >> there's something wrong here when we have these multiple shootings, these multiple injuries. there's something wrong. and the only thing i can say is we have to work together to get rid of it. >> newt, i obviously agree with what the doctor said. we have to do something to get rid of these shootings. here's a real system failure. here's a guy that shot out tires of his neighbor, shot a gun into the ceiling of his other neighbor. the navy took steps to discharge him for misconduct, and yet the government gave him a security clearance. now that's clearly a system failure. he shouldn't have gotten a security