you have described it, collin miler described it to us. it was carried out by the i.t. department and overseen by the director of legal affairs, john chapman, and the human resources director, personnel director, daniel cloak. is that an accurate description? >> that is my understanding. >> can you tell us why john chapman has left the organization? >> john chapman and the organization decided it was in mutual interest to part ways. and i think one of the pieces here as well is for the company to move forward is for -- and i think this is important. many of the individuals, even if there is -- if there's no evidence of wrongdoing or anything like that, and i think that -- and no evidence of impropriety, many individuals have chosen that it's time to part ways. i was not involved with the discussions with mr. chapman. >> so you have no evidence of any complicity to cover up the existence of the file? >> i do not have that. >> can you tell us the employment status of daniel cloak? >> mr. cloak left the company some time ago and i don't know his employment status. he's not

waiting here now for most of the staff to come out of this building behind me, including the editor collin miler who we're thinking will make a statement. earlier a few of the employees came out. here's what they said. >> it's extremely emotional, but every single one of us stays very proud that we're working for the news of the world. we're very proud of our colleagues, we're very proud of our editor and we go out with our heads held up high. >> reporter: one other british newspaper here is asking the question today as well, is this britain's watergate scandal, kind of suggesting because of the political links to all of this, namely the former editor of this paper, andy colson was hired by the former prime minister david cameron. there could be more arrests in the next few days. >> so dan, rupert murdock, on his way to london, what's going to happen once he arrives? >> reporter: we're wondering if he's going to turn up here. we think he might arrive tomorrow. whether he makes some sort of public statement about this, we don't know. there's been no sign either here today of the chief executive r

but today, collin miler, editor of "news of the world" just before it shut down and tom crone, the paper'slegal affairs, said they had told murdoch of the email which included transcripts of hacked voicemails. in a joint statement, they said -- >>> news corp. then issued this statement. james murdoch stands by his testimony to the select committee. the committee chairman may ask james murdoch to appear again before parliament to clear up that matter. this cartoon appeared in today's edition of murdoch's british newspaper "the times," under the word "priorities." the cartoon shows a group of starving so mallian children with one of them saying, i've had a bellyful of phone hacking. the cartoon provoked a storm of criticism on twitter. the bbc's robert rea tweeted, disgraceful. implies focusing on corruption allows famine to go unchecked. npr's louisa lim said it's crude, tasteless, and comes off as pro murdoch propaganda. and on this side of the ocean, it seems like the united states is indeed investigating claims of news corp. repeatedly hacking one of its rivals. >>> joining me now, micha