he and ed murrow were--were radio correspondents, as was eric sevareid, larry leseur, charlie collingwood. they were great radio people in those days. c-span: william shirer. >> guest: shirer i--i knew not so much during the war but after the war when we--a group of writers in new york were fighting mccarthy, and bill shirer and--and john hersey and arthur miller and a number of others met together. c-span: who's this? >> guest: well, she's a great woman, leigh miller, whom i met in london when she was a vogue photographer, and sh--her photographs have now become ra--rather celebrated. she--her--thanks to her son, she's--has exhibitions through--all over the world, right now in--in new zealand. c-span: who's this on the other side? >> guest: that's leigh miller by manray, and she had such a gorgeous body that even her parts became celebrated. their--manray did a study of her lips, her breasts were--were--inspired some champagne glasses. she--she was an incredible woman. sh--to me, she was a hostess and friend, and she was having an affair with dave sherman, a life photographer, which was