you co-founded the fount of the i will make a speaker center for human rights and started the books not bars program and then you co-founded color of change was color of change in response to katrina. color change was a response to katrina and really james rucker took the lead on that use after you hear activists have been a part of move on thought org and helped to out of katrina build it an african-american version of move on to work using some of those high tech tools and techniques to amplify the voices of people who are concerned about what was happening to the victims of katrina but also after americans in general are very proud of that also proud of the ella baker center for human rights which is also still going forward you know we discovered in california. that the state was spending one hundred fifty thousand dollars per year per kid to lock a kid up and we did it mad at the time you could sit four kids to yale for the cost of food and one kid to jail we said this is ridiculous these kids in the classroom don't have books they don't have chalk summer programs are being cut but we're spinning a hundred fifty k. per year per kid locking them up and t