deangelis is still the principal at columbine in 2009.has the school changed and are there exits in the doors? are there new procedures? >> guest: there are new procedures but basically it's not much different. the library did get torn down in the families won that battle. the library set up of the cafeteria where the killer's plan to destroy the whole thing. so, the floor was taken out so now the libraries are wide open and it's beautiful. you can see the rocky mountains from there and they built an addition for the library. so that is different. it's a place where they were killed outside and it's been reconfigured a little bit. for the most part, mostly the left of the same and it was very important for the kids, the survivors to feel that they have not lost their school. the important psychological concept is that they don't want to feel that the killers one. they had to make subtle changes, so subconsciously something a little different here but they can't put their finger on it. new paint in that sort of thing so they change that bu

during the first period after columbine, nearly everything that we thought we understood o about columbine and what happened there turned out to be wrong. ive to admit i was part of that press corps that got it all wrong. i went along with the pack and made these assumptions and i feel awful about it now. but it was many months later where we started realizing, oh, we completely botched this. and i wanted to get it straight. but also, -- well there were two things. i wanted to understand the killers better and that took a long time. their journals weren't released to the public for more than seven years. so if i had written the book any time earlier than that it would be a shadow of what it is in really portraying the killers giving the full picture of them. and also the survivors i wanted to tell their stories. when i first attempted the book about a year out i didn't realize the survivors story was only just beginning. that it never ends. they're still living their lives but it took a good eight to ten years for many of them to reach a plato point in their healing and a few years out the

he wrote the book "columbine." thank you for joining me tonight in these difficult circumstances. >> thank you for having me. >> is this the right question to ask is. is there anything about the greater context that can inform the way we process what happened today? >> i think that's exactly the right question. you sort of took my breath away going through that litany. i kind of wasn't prepared because -- well, we all lived through all of those, and a lot of those names i know. but i think it brings home the point even more that there are things to be learned here that we haven't really stepped up to learn. and i think the biggest single thing is we do need to look at the big picture. because when any one of these things happens, people feel like they want to know why. like why did this happen. the small why of why did this happen and they're looking at the bigger why, which is why does this keep happening. the problem comes in we do a mental thing where we equate those, and we assume those are the same thing, and

but has anything changed around the country with school security since columbine? >> i think the school security in the united states has gotten much, much better. i think we have done a tremendous job in law enforcement, and throughout this country to work on plans for active shooters. as you could see the tremendous job that the law enforcement community did by getting in their quickly and swiftly and securing the safety. the other members of the school and the other children. school safety we do a better job. many school systems we utilize electronic identification. signage sheets. one access to get in. one entry to get in one exit to get out. we have come a long way since columbine. to get to your point, we still need to improve. part of improving is for all of us in the law enforcement community to take the lessons learned from all the shootings, from virginia tech, columbine or this and pull resources together to come up with solutions based work to provide school system and work in concert with them to make the schools that much safer. we are also a democrac

. >> columbine had a police officer. columbine had surveillance cameras. sure, it may make people feel safer, but these guys are determined. they will find a way to get their revenge no matter what impediments we put in their way. doesn't mean we shouldn't try, but let's try to keep this in perspective. as rare as the event is, as much suffering as we're seeing, we're not talking about an epidemic where schools are under siege. >> less than 1% of homicides in the united states take place in and around schools, but nothing hurts us more than what we've witnessed the last two days. >> is there a way, clint, when you look at this, that's what you've done, you studied it as a profiler. there are a lot of people, thousands of people, young people who have issues, young people who feel somehow left out, and people who have a genuinely mental health issue, but how do you separate those people from someone who might do something like this? >> to me, we have to start addressing these issues. i can think back as far as columbine when we talked about. one thing i alw

after columbine cops rush into the schools and race to subdue the gunman. but school officials emphasize there is no security measure as good as paying attention to a person who seems to be plotting an evil deed and calling the police right away. >> as a teacher's during the columbine incident there was a rush to install security metal detectors and all this hardware. the single greatest security system you can have in place is a well informed enabled student body. >> reporter: district officials say they have asked their principals to review their safety procedures given this horrible reminder to make sure that everybody in those schools knows what to do in a worst- case scenario like this one. reporting live in san francisco, joe vazquez, cbs 5. >>> how do you begin to talk to your children about something like this? dr. kim mulvihill has some advice from an expert. >>> scoot snyder of martinez is sure his kids have already heard the news. >> i think i'm going to give them an extra hug tonight and ask them if they have questions. >> this is a really, real

i was at columbine for at least i think it was probably two weeks. at that time we had not seen anything like what we saw there. and there was a lot of conversation at that point about how do we stop this from happening again. well, 12, 13 years later i was back in aurora, colorado and talking to many of the same people that i had sadly gotten to know during the columbine shootings. and then earlier in the year i was in arizona when gabby giffords and the others were shot there. and you do have a sense everywhere you go, obviously, that there is a senselessness to it, there is a lack of understanding, that no amount of information that we get about the shooter can truly help us to understand how someone could do this. but there is a heaviness here that is almost undescribable, ed. and i think it is related to the fact that we're looking at these young, innocent children that if a shooter goes into a elementary school and opens fire on a classroom, he knows that the victims are going to be children who should by all rights, as so many people have said

that at columbine high school.arles whitman, the engineering student and forger marine who killed 13 people and an unborn child and wounded 32 others in a shooting rampage from the tower of the university of texas. that was on august 1, 1966. his murderous rampage caught on tv camera. >> gregg: newtown, connecticut is a tight-knit community and how some of those who call the town home are speaking out about what happened and what it will take to get through this. >> yesterday he said my school is dead. the kids are still -- he said no, mom. the school is dead. mrs. hochsprung isn't going to be there and we'll all know when we go to school. so if my school for me is dead. i think in his way, it's never going to be the same. >> we are all a quiet little town that nothing ever happens. now suddenly we're in the record books, not because someone won the lottery last week, but for something else. >> we know so many people. i can't go to the grocery store without meeting people that might know and i just can't imagine wh

take the columbine case.an klebold was writing state legislators, strongly against it, particularly upset a law that would allow concealed handguns on school property and the day the columbine attack occurred, it occurred on the day of final passage of the state concealed handgun law. >> but, listen, why is your takeaway. >> that is at columbine. >> why is your takeaway to get rid of gun laws rather than there are people that should not have access to weapons. in this particular case, we know that the investigation is just at the beginning stages, but we know he used a semiautomatic rifle to blow out the glass wall at the school. the security is useless. why? because he had a high-velocity, multishot with many rounds with him to access the school. why would you not say, that's exactly the kind of weapon that someone should not be able to easily get their hands on? and he was able easily to get his hands on it. it was legally registered to his mother. why is that not your takeaway? >> you know what country had

that was the nra's response to columbine.ast-forward almost exactly eight years to april 16th, 2007. a student at virginia tech in blacksburg, virginia shoots and kills 32 people before killing himself. a day after that shooting another statement from the nra expressing their sadness, saying they join the entire country in "expressing deepest condolences to the families of virginia tech university." then a few days later, another nra statement, "this is not a time for political discussions or public policy debates." so not the time for policy debate, not after virginia tech either. fast-forward to january 8, 2011. jared lee loughner kills people and injured congresswoman gabrielle giffords. she was in a grocery store parking lot near tucson. a 9-year-old girl was killed that day. the nra statement that day, with the our thoughts and prayers are with the victims of this senseless tragedy. we join the rest of the country in praying for the quick recovery of those injured." and then four days later, the at this point requisite f

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columbine, of course, killed 12 students before the two shooters took their own lives. we're hearing reports now that up to 20 children may have been shot. it is hopefully -- we say this every single time we cover one of these things, a line in the sand. there has got to be a measurable xhank, some kind of reaction. one would hope that there will be some political capital to report in the way we handle gun and gun violence in this country. >> what's so traumatizing, beyond the trauma that we're already experiencing is the fact that we're talking about the possibility of multiple children dead. not high school students. want college students. not pedestrians on the street. grown adults. we're talking about children who went to school today, you know, starry-eyed, going to school with all the hope and joy that comes with that. especially in this holiday season and to now learn that a gunman went into that school. someone from the outside. i mean, just we don't know who this gunman is. we don't know if this gunman had a relationship or some kind of connection to that schoo

dianne feinstein had her ban and columbine happened. we have a mental health system in this country that's completely collapsed. we have no national database of these lunatics. 23 states -- how long ago was virginia tech? 23 states are still putting on a small number of records into the system and a lot of states are putting none. so when they go through the national instant check system and they go to try to screen out one of those lunatics, the record are not even in the system. i talked to a police officer the other day, he said, wayne, every police officer walking the street knows some lunatic out there, some mentally disturbed person that ought to be in an institution is out walking the street because they dealt with the institutional side, they didn't want mentally ill in institutions so they put them all back on the street and nobody thought what happens when you put all these mentally ill people back on the streets and what happens when they start taking their medicine? we have a completely cracked mentally ill system that's got

one of the worst, of course, columbine high school in colorado. dave cullen spent ten years writing and researching about that massacre and joins us now. dave, thank you for being here. i guess your book came out about columbine ten years after the tragedy and the most eye opening thing about what you're reporting found was that all of the -- everything we thought we knew about columbine in the first week, two months and months after it happened was basically false and a lot of false narratives. and you basically searched for a sort of satisfying motive that we could all understand and you couldn't really find one. i wonder based of your experience if there are lessons to keep in mind piecing together what happened here in newtown in the weeks ahead. >> sure. there are a whole lot of lessons. one thing is that the media is pretty good in getting the facts right and there's always confusion in the beginning, especially the first hours and awful things like how many people have been killed and logistical things but it sorts itself out pretty quickly

captain drew tracey, then with the montgomery county police in maryland, was incensed by columbine and active shooter tactics used today. >> we have to go where we hear the sounds of shoots, we have to go where the broken glass is, where we see the casings on the ground, but we need to corner that threat so that individual or individual cans not take more lives. >> reporter: now the mind-set is, in the minds of the police, not one more victim. >> exactly. >> reporter: after columbine police operations were transformed. by 2007, virginia tech police were trained to go straight toward the gunfire. just this week, police used the same no-wait procedures at the mall shooting in oregon. under the rules, when the shooter has been stopped, then the rescue begins. some of the sandy hook surviving children were led away in an organized line, each one grasping the shoulders of the child in front, their faces revealing both relief and fear. >> our main objective was to evacuate as quickly and efficiently as possible any and all students and fact you will any the school. >> reporter: this go-first

he was in columbine and his sister was killed. 16th. we're learning the names and ages of the lives cut short in newtown, connecticut and hearing from their families. >> my daughter, emilie, would be one of the first ones to be standing and giving her love and support to all those victims. because that's the type of person that she is. >> we have more from this remarkable dad and his incredible message of forgiveness today. >>> then will we ever get answers, how and why did this happen? we're learning more about where the investigation heads today, we're getting a live report from the police in newtown, connecticut. >> this picture has become the face of the tragedy in newtown. we know this woman's sister died a hero. shielding her students from the gunman and the stories of bravery do not end there. "fox & friends" starts now. >>> good sunday morning, everybody. i'm dave briggs, alisyn camerota here with you trying to pick up the pieces and talk about the tragedy in ways and talk about the stories that did inspire people. it's a

the academy award winning filmmaker michael moore, the director of "bowling for columbine," response to the sandy hook massacre. >> there are crazy people and there are shootings and killings in norway and france and germany, but there hasn't been 61 mass killings like there have been in this country to a sense columbine. >> and the nra facebook page has gone dark. we will speak with lisa graves about big guns and big money. all of that and more coming up. this is "democracy now!," democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. residents of newtown, connecticut, have begun holding the first of many kernels for the 27 victims killed in friday's shooting rampage at sandy hook elementary school. on monday, noah pozner and jack pinto, 06 years old, were laid to rest in small caskets. more funerals are slated today including two more 6-year-old victim's, james mattioli and jessica rekos. at the white house, president obama convened a meeting with top officials to discuss ways to respond to the newtown massacre, including potential proposals for gun control. pressed for detai

. >> this rally represents a new beginning for columbine high school. >> reporter: columbine took four months to reopen after 12 people were gunned down and ten were injured. they demolished the library and replaced it with a sunny atrium. after a gunman killed 32 people at virginia tech, parts of campus went through extensive renovations and gradually reopened. but sandy hook is unprecedented, because the victims were so young. >> they make sense of things differently. they might be more clingy. they might regress more, so they might start sucking their thumb, for example. >> reporter: the new campus is being outfitted with a new security system. officials promised it will be the safest school in america. a pledge parents the use to reassure their children and themselves. for "nightline," i'm juju chang in newtown, connecticut. >>> coming up next, from selling off shares to stripping shelves, how this tragedy is changing the game, at least for now, for those who make, sell, and invest in the booming business of guns. [ male announcer ] red lobster's crabfest ends soon. hurry in and tr

esto se inició ante la masacre de columbine.én lo es sin un sistema que te enseñe como y cuando usarla, es solo una parte del rompecabezas >>mientras que los colegios entrenen a los adultos, se seguirán repitiendo estos ataques >>los niños serán más seguros si enseñamos a los maestros a identificar ciertas cosas. >>estos centros del saber no volverán a ser lo que eran. >en instantes mienstra barack obama propone medidas para el control de armas, el gobernador de texas dice todo lo contrario. envienos sus ♪. el presidente barack obama anuncio la creacion de una propuesta para controlar la venta de armas en el país. >>mientras en el país aumena la compra de armas, en texas el gobernador habla de armar a los profesores permitir armas en las aulas >>el gobernador dice que las leyes de su estado permite a una persona lleva un arma a cualquier lado siempre que cumpla con los permisos para tenerla en las ultimas 24 horas tenemos cientos de profesores registrados >>dice que la idea es que si un hombre armado entra con la intencion de ag

after columbine. one of the changes in dealing with law enforcements, as in columbine they waited a minute to assess what was going o. and the protocall is you go in and try to get to the shooter as soon as possible. and that meeps the first guys in there are putting their in harm's ways. a crime like this is usual lie done within five minutes. you don't have time to assess. you assess on the run so yeah, you don't know what is on the other side. you work out a plan before hand and you are analyzing your strat strat on -- strategy on the run. 24 hours passed before the bodies were removed and a lot of intense forensic work was going on. help us to understand, what is it that the police are doing behind the closed doors, obviously no cameras are going in there and no one will get in there is it evaporate that you tabe your crime scene. it was a contained crime 69 and behind the scenes, they are looking at the process in the crime scene and forepsics that they are recovering. matching those rounds to th

columbine, aurora, virginia tech, tucson.n at virginia tech. >> god forgive us as a country if it takes a literal slaughter of innocents in a holy season to wake us up. >> reporter: the slaying of 6-year-olds and 7-year-olds in newtown, connecticut, has been described as a game changer in the debate over gun control. the brady campaign to prevent gun violence invited families to washington to press congress to renew the ban on assault weapons and pass other gun control measures. >> the only place that this is a contentious political debate is in that building behind us. and there's a disconnect between what the american public wants on this issue and what our electelect ed officials are doing about it. >> reporter: the national rifle association put out a statement saying, "we were shocked, saddened and heartbroken by the news of the horrific and senseless murders in newtown. out of respect for the families and as a matter of common decency, we have given time for mourning, prayer, and a full investigation of the facts before

after columbine. one of the changes in dealing with law enforcements, as in columbine they waited a minute to assess what was going o. and the protocall is you go in and try to get to the shooter as soon as possible. and that meeps the first guys in there are putting their in harm's ways. a crime like this is usual lie done within five minutes. you don't have time to assess. you assess on the run so yeah, you don't know what is on the other side. you work out a plan before hand and you are analyzing your strat strat on -- strategy on the run. 24 hours passed before the bodies were removed and a lot of intense forensic work was going on. help us to understand, what is it that the police are doing behind the closed doors, obviously no cameras are going in there and no one will get in there is it evaporate that you tabe your crime scene. it was a contained crime 69 and behind the scenes, they are looking at the process in the crime scene and forepsics that they are recovering. matching those rounds to th

how victims of the columbine shooting are mourning.he columbine massacre, 14 years ago, some are now parents themselves. >> you lose the sense that things could never happen to you. so many parents would say, this would never happen to my child's school. well, for me as a parent of a child, i believe this could easily happen at my child's school. that's because it has happened to me before. i would hope that the people involved will walk beside these children and the families for years to come. they have years and years of healing that they're going to be chasing. i hope we can come beside them and encourage them and focus positively on the lives of the ones that were lost. i want you to meet shawn graves. he was shot six times. he ended up in a wheelchair and to this day, he has pain because of it. i spoke with him about how the news of connecticut was affecting him. >> i live with pain physically on a daily basis because of injuries i sustained. but looking back then, i try not to think about it. but when something like this happens,

little bit worse than columbine yesterday. >> and, ken, as i remember from columbine around the countryfor schools to beef up security, people wanting to make sure that their children were safe, understandably. what's been done since then as far as the progress goes in making our schools safer? >> there was a significant amount of improvement in school security and emergency planning. schools caught up with decades of neglect in basic security and crisis planning after columbine, and in the months and years after the columbine incident we made a great deal of progress and a lot of that has been grained. having crisis plans, teams, practicing lockdown drills, controlling access to your building, training the staff. in the last few years, five or six years, we've seen some of those progress due to cutbacks and resources both on counselors, mental health as well as security personal emergency planning and training. there's been an enormous focus on p.e.t. scans and forms and bunts and schools and we have to keep school safety on the front burner. >> ken, as the school superintendent here j

you saw what happened with columbine. you saw how that played out. question, obviously, is when somebody wants to do something like this, why do you have those who are in fact most vulnerable to going to an elementary school to 5, 6, 7, 8, 9-year-olds, there's something pathological about that. >> it is. it was really appalling to me. i went back and forth between -- well, i'll tell you, i spent the last 13 years trying to understand the killers and trying to sort of put myself in their shoes and understand why. because i've been with so many different conferences with, you know, people who are authorities and have been studying these for their entire career, shrinks, law enforcement, other people, one thing that i've settled on is that the killer always has a reason. in their mind, it's not senseless reason. there was some reasoning that worked for them and if we're going to really want to solve this, we have to get in their heads and understand from their point of view. so that's been my mission for the last several years but yesterday that was rea

having lived in columbine, i saw this once before -- or in denver during columbine, saw this once beforeit's amazing. changed my life watching how other people -- how god did help them and did get them through times when they thought they wouldn't make it through. >> and to see parents -- to see mr. parker speaking about his daughter, the strength that takes, the strength that takes just to get through minute by minute, second by second. >> yeah. no, that was very touching there. it's just a horrible scenario, a horrible situation. like we said in the beginning, words can't really do anything in this. how can i understand him? i just try to love him and be there for him and people like him, be there in the community. >> sometimes the words seem -- they feel so small in a situation like this. pastor, appreciate you being on. >> thank you so much. >> there's still a lot for us to learn in the days ahead and as our coverage continues. we'll take a short break. we'll continue remembering the victims tonight when we come back. [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus presents the cold truth. i ha

>> they've changed every police procedure since columbine. i don't understand why you can't just for a minute imagine that when that horrible monster tried to shoot his way into sandy hook school that if a good guy with a gun had been there, he might have been able to stop him. >> i'm just trying to test your views here, mr. lapierre about how it would actually work. how many do you think you have to have on campus and where? is it sufficient to have them at the front of the school? >> that's up to our police. our police do this every day. they protect the president, the secret service does. they protect the capitol, they protect office buildings. most of the media -- i know you don't have armed guards here but most of the media when i go around this country, they're protected by armed guards. why can't we protect our most precious resource. there was a secret service study that was done. you know what it showed? it showed that the police trying to get there in time only stop 25% of the shooters. the rest of them are either stopped by somebod

the kids who gave us jonesborrow and columbine and virginia tech.s a movie massacre in aurora and massacre in first grade classroom in sandy hook. when are why going to connect the world? the children play the sickest games and movies and commit the sickest acts in history . we have to get tired of this living in this world . >> peter: colorado why are looking at one of the realistic video games. people will say, hey, it is just a video game. but unly it desense tieses to and you are just pulling a are triggle and it is just a game. a lot of the gamers went on to do vilen stuff . >> everyone of our school killers. there is it never a juvenile mass murderer and now we have them. germany two massacres in beat boin bine and finland had three one in canada and belgium and sick man who took a buechler knife and hacked babies in the cribs china. these crimes never happened in human history. we feet the sickness video games. and i train law enforcement and i spend more time on the road training military and law enforcement than anybody else in america. we

after columbine.f the changes in dealing with law enforcements, as in columbine they waited a minute to assess what was going o. and the protocall is you go in and try to get to the shooter as soon as possible. and that meeps the first guys in there are putting their in harm's ways. a crime like this is usual lie done within five minutes. you don't have time to assess. you assess on the run so yeah, you don't know what is on the other side. you work out a plan before hand and you are analyzing your strat strat on -- strategy on the run. 24 hours passed before the bodies were removed and a lot of intense forensic work was going on. help us to understand, what is it that the police are doing behind the closed doors, obviously no cameras are going in there and no one will get in there is it evaporate that you tabe your crime scene. it was a contained crime 69 and behind the scenes, they are looking at the process in the crime scene and forepsics that they are recovering. matching those rounds to the gun.

>> well, if you recall, this is columbine deja vu.ht after columbine and the clinton administration very appropriately developed the cops in schools program in the justice department and in the past five or six years that -- and this crosses both administrations, it's not a political statement, the last five or six years across multiple congresses, congressional sessions, that money disappeared. even if you could afford -- and i support school resource officer programs. as a father, i can understand, every father would like, you know, a police officer in their school and many parents right now after sandy hook would like a one officer per kid, but my challenge and question is fund it now. if congress throws money when they come back in january at this, what are you doing for sustainability? and, don, you hit it in the head. five years from now, six years from now when the grants run out, how do you sustain that and who is going to pick up the tab? after the cops in schools program ran out under the clinton administration, local school

her daughter rachel joy scott died in the columbine shooting.raig witnessed that tragedy and managed to survivor. good morning their, beth. i know the columbine shooting was 13 years ago but i imagine this brings up a whole lot of emotions for your family. >> oh, it did. yesterday was like reliving april 20th, 99 all over again. so much pain with you my first reaction was i was angry. i was very angry that this would happen again, especially to little children, little babies. and just angry that that someone would take out their frustration and their anger and their pain on someone so innocent. >> and you would think that we would have learned the signs by now to look out for in troubled young men and women and sadly at least it appears that that is not the case. >> i heard the family of another columbine family say this just yesterday. that was that the really difficult phase actually begins for those families right now. could you talk to us a little bit about that? >> sure. it's so unreal what they are experiencing now is so unreal. it's like