and schools still are in general a safe place. >> columbine was a bellwether. it affected the feeling of relative safety, lack of it, for a generation of kids, including my on. remain us when was columbine, the death toll. >> 1999, and the death toll sounding similar to this, 13 other people in addition to the two killers. so 15 total. and low 20s was the injured depending upon how you want to count certain people, around 22. >> dave cullen, author of "the new york times" best-seller, "columbine" thank you for stopping by and offering the expertise you gathered in researching another tragedy on campus. kate snow? >> difficult to hear all of that. i think about sandy hook, where we covered, brian. i was up there for days and have been talking to those families for years of posttraumatic effects of this. governor kate brown sent out a tweet a few moments ago. the governor of oregon saying, my thoughts are with the families and the victim of today's tragedy. we are expecting still to hear from her about 15 minutes from now is what they scheduled a news confroens f

like i said we learn from columbine. what we're finding now is response time by the police who are there, and so many times it's it would be interesting to see if the campus actually had practiced emergency management type of things, and by the sounds of some reports i'm reed doing -- this has not been confirmed -- the students were locking down, and anything you can do and one young lady you interviewed prior was talking about something that we have in place the colorado and throughout the states and the response protocol whether it's locked, lights and out of sight, and if you do something to deter, and you know police will be there to protect you. >> we don't know. we know a lot of people have sort of understood the drills they go through. thank you, sir, very, very much. we are waiting a press conference scheduled at the bottom of this hour, 20 minutes from now. oregon's governor, state police, are going detail us on what they know, what we know is sort of -- coming from a variety of different reports and sources at

many lessons for law enforcement were learned at the columbine high school in 199 9. a.j. deandrea is joining us and thanks very much gentlemen for joining us. the shootings often happen in schools or college campuses instead of malls or workplaces, why is that? >> three major reasons, the first is that these people nearly always choose symbolic targets, symbols of authorities, and these people are using terrorist tactics. in 9/11 we saw vehicles of government and capitalism and school is the central authority figure in the world for many of them. the second one, though, is practicality and this person, we're not sure whether, at least last i heard i'm not sure if he's in the school but a practical matter where it's their turf. they know it very well. they know where the security is, how to get in and out, what will work and what won't where say if you go to a mall, it's a lot of unknown territories. most plans fail so practicality is an issue. perhaps the biggest one is after columbine, i think we all saw that schools really terrorize us and that's what this is about. thi

>> the movie theater, aurora that came after columbine. after that police engaged in activity to actively engage an active shooter to prevent people from losing their lives. >> we heard officials there in oregon that the school had actually gone through training drills. they had a drill last week where they teach those in the school what to do. so if a police officer gets the call as what happened here, there is a shooting incident inside the school, what's the first thing they do once they get up to the building? >> all schools have an active shooter protocol. one thing officers need to do is make an assessment as to what's making place. how many people are engaged in active shooting roles and how many victims are on the scene. and then once you gain that information as quickly as possible, you want to radio back for as many people that can assist you as possible. these are very violent instances and so you need the proper fortifications to safely get these people out of the school safely. >> can police officers -- by going in there right

obviously since the post-colu post-columbine era, a lot of these shooters refer back to columbine.edia personnel again referring back to columbine. unfortunately they know our tactics, getting heavily armed, carrying multiple weapons. it seems to spur that knee-jerk reaction of that copycat. one of the last school shootings that i was involved with, a copycat of the amish school shooting was a copycat six days later because of the attention of the media that day. >> what is going on here? every time we have these shootings, it seems to be the same sort of person, at least the same age range and i guess any type of profiler will tell you that there has to be something going on with that age group and with that demographic for them to do something like this. >> yeah, we've had a few exception just in recent event, but predominantly they're middle-aged wheite males from a suburban middle-class area. they act alone. again, there's been a few exception. it's usually typically underlying mental health issues that, you know, come to light as they serve these search warrants and learn what

police you a rested the 16-year-old suspect for making a columbine-style threat. police are crediting that person for stepping up and saying something along with the ammunition that was found, a search of his things turned up big guns and riot gear.some types of gear found, i guess could you describe them as tactical and sort of replica of columbine type clothing. >>reporter: police are not identifying the suspect as he is still a juvenile, but he is a 16-year-old junior at metheun high school. he was taken to the hospital and this morning we have reached out to the excess county da's office to get a better idea what is next for him from here. and police are saying that no one is in any danger at that point. but parents are still pretty shaken up, still left with a lot of questions about this and hearing from some of them in the next half hour. and we are live from metheun, jessica reyes, fox25 morning news. >>> police say the evidence is pretty clear. door from a computer store with a stack of apple mac books. they are searching for two people. police in mansfiel

as has columbine, as has luke woodham. as has little rock, as has pearl, mississippi. including the inspeakable tragedy that happened in connecticut, just such a short time ago. with all those little children who were gunned down. and the national questions will continue, how we as a society respond to this. why we in the united states are subjected to this. or victims of this, more it would seem statistically than people in other parts of the world. and what exactly would be the right course of action for us as a society. is see something, say something enough? to what degree do we need to increase security? how much would that make us feel better about ourselves and about the situation? but protect us, how much bet centre how many metal detectors, how many armed guards are going to solve these problems? how much of this is about counseling and getting to know our neighbors? finding out who needs help and why and what people's concerns are. hopefully at some point we'll get answers to these questions. for this moment we're waiting to hear from the sheriff who is there

certainly virginia tech of course and columbine and sandy hook.has been the prevalent condition of the shooter in these cases? is there a commonality? >> you know, those shooters were either psychotic or psychopaithc but they also had a lot going wrong in their lives. they were full of rage, they wanted to die, but before they died they wanted to take people with them as a way of getting revenge against the world. >> why would you want to be famous in a world you were not in? >> you know, for some of these people they feel like they're essentially a nobody, they have no significance. they feel worthless. and for some the idea of fame is very attractive and they might not be remembered for anything except their final moments, and for some of them apparently that is good enough. >> but that's all they experience. of their fame, to be blunt about it. and to be horrific. they live for that moment in which they're shooting people, knowing in that moment they'll be famous for doing that. is that it? >> that's right. in fact, erik harris at columbine had

if you think back to columbine, the instructions to the initial responding officers were to wait until the more heavily armed equipped and trained s.w.a.t. teams arrived. that was then. this is now. now law enforcement word is get, in engage the gunman, try to get it over with quickly. the roseburg police have actually talked about planning this sort of thing before, because nine years ago there was a shooting at the high school, at roseburg high school, a freshman shot another student who ended up surviving the attack but it got authorities there thinking about how to deal with these mass shootings. the roseburg police thought about it. this community college thought about it. and made better plans. you saw some of those plans today. later this month, the fbi will be sending a movie style video to the nation's police emphasizing the need to plan and rehearse how to respond to these things, how, for example, to marshall the forces that arrive. you see what happened today. everybody, as the police said earlier, everybody drops everything and goes. how do you best marshall those forces?

we talked about this after columbine and blacksburg, after tucson, after newtown, after aurora, after charleston. it cannot be this easy for somebody who wants to inflict or her hands on a gun. and what's become routine, of course, is the response of those who oppose any kind of common sense gun legislation. right now i can imagine the press release is being cranked up. we need more guns they will argue. fewer gun safety laws. does anybody really believe that? there are scores of responsible gun owners in this country. they know that's not true. we know because of the polling that says the majority of americans understand we should be changing these laws, including the majority of responsible law-abiding gun owners. there is a gun for roughly every man, woman a d chi so how can you w-a straight face make the argument that more guns wirt make us safer. we know that states with the most gun laws tend to have the fewest gun deaths. so the notion that gun laws don'tork or just will make it harder for law-abiding citizens and criminals will still get their guns is not borne out by the evid

. >> reporter: a methuen high school student was arrested on monday for allegedly making a columbine-style threat. the junior told a friend he wanted to "shoot up the school." >> it's scary as a parent to have your kid going to school knowing there are threats. >> there's a lot of threats a lot of things going on like that around the country not just here. >> reporter: fox 25 has learned that investigators found amo in two homes where the teen was living. >> live ammunition located during the search. however the items we were able to recover were not capable of receiving that ammunition. >> reporter: sources tell us they found fake guns in the teen's home. police also found some riot gear. >> there was some type of gear found like intact call others as gothic sort of replica of columbine-type closing. >> the first alert went out at 3:30 today we worked hand in hand with police waiting for the investigation to be forward. >> reporter: tonight police are crediting a friend of the disturbed teenager for stepping up and saying something. >> something would have happened probably to the child h

for instance, i mentioned come columbine, littleton, might as well be denver. that's not the case here. you can see authorities -- these are live pictures -- i don't know what kind of authorities those are, except to say they appear to be in uniform, and some of the entrances you can see the crime tape. that has strung around here, whether any of these vehicles particularly are part of this crime scene. no way to know but you can see it's been roped off, large area roped off. they want to preserve any sort of evidence possible and you can see the crime tape. we're two hours into this so we can presume now that authorities have some idea what they're dealing with. most like we have been led to believe by the reporting of another network they at least know the age of this person. i don't know if it's a student. i have no idea. but we have a relative age of this person if that reporting is accurate but beyond that we don't know anything. this shooter have some sort of connection to the college? have classes here? we don't know. it's possible authorities do. after

>>> teenager behind a columbine style threat. >> big dig and problem found inside the tunnels that thousands drive through everyday. >> and happening in just hours, hillary clinton will testify at a highly anticipated hearing. the key questions lawmakers want answered about the benghazi attacks and how it could make or break her presidential campaign. >> gene: good morning, everybody, it is october 22nd, hope your morning is off to great start, i'm gene lavanchy. >> sara: i'm sara underwood. we could hit the 70s today, it is a beautiful thing and sarah wroblewski is in for shiri spear. >> yes, warmer weather heading our way and contend with a little bit of fog this morning and i have to point out it has been improving over the last several hours and starting to see some of the fog lift places visibility down to less than a mile and take it easy on the roads, likely going to come into some fog and clear conditions, it is going to vary where you are. temperatures though on the mild side in the 50s, clouds around and few showers in parts of vermont but most of the region is dry right now. i am

we talked about this after columbin columbine, newtown, aerror a, charleston. it cannot be this easy for someone who wants to inflict harm on other people to get his or her hands on a gun. and what's routine is those who oppose any kind of commonsense gun legislation. right now i can imagine the press release being cranked out. we need more guns, they'll argue. fewer gun safety laws. does anybody really believe that? there are scores of responsible gun owners in this country. they know that's not true. we know because of polling that says the majority of americans understand we should be changing these laws including the majority of responsible, law abiding gun owners. there's a gun for roughly every man, woman, and child in america. so how can you, with a straight face, make the argument that more guns will make us safer? we know that states with the most gun laws tend to have the fewest gun deaths. so the notion that gun laws don't work or just will make it harder for law abiding citizens and criminals will still get their guns. it's not borne out by the evid

a 16-year-old student allegedly made columbine-style threats and told a friend he wanted to shoot up the school. investigators searched two homes where the san joseer was living and found ammo, fake gun living and found ammo, fake guns and riot gear. this morning police are crediting a friend for saying something. >> something would have happened probably to their child themselves. and, again, this girl probably saved that child's life. >>daniel: the teenager is at facility where they are retrieving treatment. they are trying to determine where he got the am mission. >>> thieves are caught on camera carrying dozens of pricey computers out of local stores. those burglars took off with $1 those burglars took off with $100,000 worth of apple products. catherine parrotta is live in mansfield where police believe the time of the burglary was no coincidence, catherine. >>reporter: police say that these guys were in the store that you see behind me around 10:30, 11:00 sunday night. if you think what was happening at that time the patriots game was on. if you don't believe that was a coincid

teacher holly carpenter is a graduate of columbine high school. that's why she takes this issue so personally. >> it's not about the flashbacks of columbine or any of that for me. it's about the thought of anyone wanting to hurt the kids. >> reporter: the threat is real. the question is -- how to stop it? david wright, abc news, new york. >> david, thank you. and we will be staying on this throughout the night. much more on "nightline" and tomorrow morning on "good morning america." >>> in the meantime, we move on now to the other breaking headline at this hour, the state of emergency tonight in four states. 50 million now under flood watches. there have a double threat at this hour. a massive rainstorm hitting right now, and then, of course, there is also hurricane joaquin, as seen from space. at this hour, a category 4 hurricane. expected to strengthen. the east coast in its sights. let's get right to chief meteorologist ginger zee who has been tracking this for 24 hours now. ginger, the track changing. where is the cone now? >> reporter: signif

we talked about this after columbine, blacksburg.overall, after charleston. an occult let's move on. just a few minutes away -- anna: let's move on. just a few minutes away from the european equity markets opening. -- we seefutures stimulus in china helping to boost a little bit more, as we look toward the u.s. jobs data. when they get jobs out there. -- will they get jobs out there? air france saying they're going to scale back. white? the problems they're having -- why? the problems they're having with your own pilots. the fact that they cannot strike a deal with their own pilots. the board failed to reach an agreement with the pilot union. they were going to be profitable last year if they had not seen that extended pilot strike that half a billion euros. we get an update from the bus company, the train company and first group saying trading is in line with forecasts. strong u.k. rail passengers underlying their cash flow. the u.s.exposed to dollar. overall, the dollar revenues are expected to be about 5% lower. keep an eye on fir

i'll talk about it with dave columbine and dr. drew.e talked about it so many times and it's the reason we don't show the pictures of shooters and don't name them but i'm amazed so many other people do. >> i am, too. i was on your show that night talking about that. and it's just horrific. i was really glad to see president obama get angry yesterday and that night on that show, i came in angry and i decided, you know, normally i try to calm down and get -- but it's time we quit calming down and i get this all the time, they get more and more enraged. i was also glad to see the sheriff this time pick up the ball and saying he's not going to name the names. there was a sheriff about a year ago who said that. he kind of went out on a limb. none of the other sheriffs or police officers since then have taken up the ball. finally a second guy is doing it and expanded a little to say his entire force, his investigation won't say it, i'm hoping this is a pattern now and others and maybe they can lead the media and we can follow on this one, whi

columbine, newtown, and now oregon. all over the country, this is happening in a repetitive way, and it's important to use this occasion to reflect upon the dangers that we are ignoring, the epidemic that we are ignoring, but i think we also have to realize that mass shootings, as horrendous as they are, are not the bulk of the crimes committed with guns and the deaths dealt by guns in this country, but those are everyday criminals, abusive spouses and, sadly, people taking their own lives. don't forget that those 30,000 deaths a year of our fellow citizens are not all in mass shooting situations, but they involve many other circumstances. so what's the solution? a friend of mine in maine coined the term, which i think aptly applies -- in fact, it probably applies in this case more than any other -- there is no silver bullet. there may, however, be silver buckshot. a multiplicity of solutions. no single solution. nothing we do here today in the way of background checks or anything else is going to solve this problem ent

columbine, texas -- i mean virginia tech. my god, sandy hook. these are all iconic places. as you said in the reporting a couple of hours ago, that now umpqua will be one of those names. we will have them peck peppered throughout our history. i'm sure, as the president said, they're putting together a press release. it's not the gun owner. it's not the person who knows what they're doing for hunt iin or even second amendment rights. everybody has a right to own a gun to protect themselves from the government. fine. they had a longstanding slogan there, a motto really. guns don't kill people. people kill people. that should say to the nra people and its members and supporters, let's make sure that the wrong people don't get guns. it's not about the use of a firearm. it's getting into the hands of people that shouldn't be using a firearm sbchlt that means background checks. that's where the line should be. keeping the guns out of the hands of people with mental, emotional problems or, in any way that they suggest through their criminal history that they shouldn't be getting a

we talked about this after columbine and blacksburg, after tucson, newtown, after aurora, after charleston. it cannot be this easy for somebody who wants to inflict harm on other people to get his or her hands on a gun. and what's routine of course is the response of those who oppose any kind of common sense gun legislation. right now i can imagine the press release is being thanked ut. we need more guns, they'll argue, few gun safety laws. does anybody really believe that? there are scores of responsible gun owners in this country. they know that's not true. we know because of the polling that says that a majority of americans understand we should be changing these laws, including the majority of responsible law abiding gun owners. there is a gun for roughly every man, woman and child in america. so how can you with a straight face make the argument that more guns will make us safer? we know that states with the most gun laws tend to have the fewest gun deaths. so the notion that gun -- it's not born out by the evidence. we know that other countries in response to one mass shooting have b

two officers unlike columbine immediately confronted the gunman and shot mercer dead. the campus was on lock down. they let the students board a bus where they were reunited with family. >> you will never hear mere mention his name. we would encourage media and the community to avoid using it. we encourage you to not repeat it. we encourage you not to glorify and create sensationalism for him. he in no way deserves this. >> now mercer grew up with his mother in southern california. he was quiet and road around on a red bike with flcamouflage pants. he liked to target shoot. we still don't know why. did he not like a professor? was he trying to even a score with a bully? we don't know. he told the victims to lie down on the ground and state their religion before firing. one victim tried to stop the shooter before -- so he would not get into an adjacent classroom. >> tried to block the door to keep the gunman from coming in. he was shot three times. hits the floor, looks up at the gunman and says it's my son's birthday today. gets shot two more times. >> he is going to h

the names and ages of those who died in those shootings including columbine high school and virginiaech and the aurora movie complex in colorado. . the names of those children who died and an arm service recruiting center in chattanooga tennessee is included on that list. phones.the jerry is waiting from tennessee on our line for independents. we are talking about the opening day for the new term for the supreme court. go ahead. caller: thank you for c-span. c-span is doing a marvelous service to the country. if you goreme court, back and look at sandy hook and columbine and blacksburg and roseburg and all of that. none of these things happen until the supreme court changed the moral compass of the united states area they took prayer out of the schools and the 10 commandments off of the walls. our moral compass has now secular.own to we are supposed to be a secular nation. we are not a secular nation. we were not counted as a secular nation. we are a christian nation, like it or not. everybody on the news the muslims worship the same god that we do. getting back to the supreme guy sa

we talked about this after columbine and blacksburg and tucson.after aurora and after charleston. it cannot be this easy for somebody who wants to inflict harm on other people to get his or her hands on a gun. and what's become routine, of course, is the response of those who oppose any kind of common sense legislation. right now, i can imagine the press release is being cranked out. we need more guns, they'll argue. fewer gun safety laws. does anybody really believe that? there are scores of responsible gun owners in this country. they know that's not true. what is also routine is that somebody somewhere will comment and say obama politicized this issue. this is something we should politicize. it is relevant to our common life together to the body politic. i would ask news organizations, because i won't put these facts forward. have news organizations tally up the number of americans who have been killed through terrorist attacks over the last decade and the number of americans who have been killed by gun violence. and post those side by side on

methuen student arrested accused of making columbine style threats. >> it is scary as a parent. >> jessica: police arrested 16-year-old monday and seven of two homes where he has been living turneddum ammunition, fake guns and riot gear. >> there was some types of gear found like could describe some of them as tactical, other as gothic sort of replica of columbine type clothing. >> jessica: investigators say he told a friend about his plan and this morning they are crediting that friend for stepping up and saying something. >> if it had not been intervened at this point that something would have happened probably to the child himself. >> jessica: friend told police he referenced mass shootings and talked about plan more than once. >> it was in person and also some postings, some written text messages. >> jessica: police are not identifying the suspect as he is a juvenile, only saying he is a junior at methuen high school. police assured parents last night that no one is in any danger but many of them are still left with so many questions. >> a lot of threats, a lot of things going on like

we've talked about this after columbine and blacksburg, after tucson, after newtown. after aurora, charleston. it cannot be this easy for somebody who wants to inflict harm on other people to get his or her hands on a gun! >> and as you heard the president again, focusing on the need for gun laws that he says will protect the american people. >>> sadly there have been other mass shootings at our country. virginia tech remains the deadliest. >> 32 people were julied on april 16th, 2007. the gunman was a student who shot and killed fellow students at two locations on campus before committing suicide. >> 26 people were killed, that was at sandy hook elementary school. that was in december, 2012, including 20 children. many between the ages of six and seven years old. the gunman, 20-year-old adam lanza, also killed his mother. that was at their newtown home. that happened after he went to the school. his mother volunteered there at the school. >> april 20th, 1999, 12 students and a teacher killed at columbine in colorado. the killing touched off a growing awareness about

we had some shooters before columbine, we didn't have spectacle killers.didn't have people trying to create a made for television drama. that's new self-reinforcing and us in the media playing our part at giving them the stage. they are working off each other's playbook. they are not doing this in isolation. it's basically 100% copy catting in my opinion. >> drew, i mean, last night on the program you talked about similarities between this gunman and santa barbara shooter who you said was socially isolated, detached unable to connect. >> all those same features, which is you have somebody lack of empathy, somebody isolated, somebody who is accumulating injustices and someone who often times has some other problem that's super imposed on this. not necessarily but often times substance use and boy, that's a volatile thing and this is early similar shooting and that one a lot of people did try to do things and unfortunately, unsuccessfully left videos behind. there is opportunity for all of us to intervene if we raise our level of awareness. the copy cat pote

we talked about this after columbine and blacksburg, after tucson, after newtown, after aurora, afterharleston. it cannot be this easy for somebody who wants to inflict harm on other people 0 to get his or her hands on a gun. and what's become routine of course, is the response of those who oppose any kind of common sense gun legislation. when americans are killed in mine disasters we work to make mine safer. when americans are killed in floods and hurricanes, we make communities safer. so the notion that gun violence is somehow different? that our freedom and our constitution prohibits any modest regulation of how we use a deadly weapon when there are law abiding gun owners all across the country who could hunt and protect their families and do everything they do under such regulations? it doesn't make sense. >> i don't think there's any other issue we've seen this president get so emotional and almost angry pretty much in this last clip that you saw than gun violence. really feels he hasn't done enough. >> and this was the 15th time he's addressed the country after a gun tragedy. th

. >> what the other argument is that there were armed security people at columbine. >> right. >> and so, again, that's a part of the substantive conversation that you can have, but it has to be an informed conversation, and when people say and support the statement from dr. carson and many people do there is the other side of columbine. >> it's such a sad commentary, you know, on where we are in the world today. >> absolutely. >> we're desperate to find a safe way. >> need a conversation about arming our teachers and i think a lot of people are having that conversation across the country, but at the same time it just makes you -- as a parent the sick to your stomach the thought that you have to think that way. now our schools have -- our school put multiple security features on top of what's already there. >> i don't know if you saw this oregon mom. her daughter was inside the community college umpqua when this happened and she said very clearly that if her daughter had been armed she feels that her daughter could have helped out, and there she is a parent frightened to death that sh

>> i believe there are 143 shootings since columbine. charles: mass shootings. >> yes, 143 of them, since that in schools, college, higher education, or whatever. my point is that it is something where someone can make a statement by taking as many bodies out as they can, now on the news this person is famous, for killing. if they are mentally challenges or a problem or a terry attack that happen -- terrorist attack we don't know. but my point is, they go to where the vulnerable are, they don't go to a police station that often, they go but they get met with shots right back. but they go to a place where they could have mass kill, movie theater, mass kill. people cannot shoot back. so there is one common denominator, we have to have more security, security means if you go against a gun, you better have a gun. charles: david to you, as the president made his pitch, that is what half of the press conference was, a political pitch. he talked about, enlisting or moving governors, i am thinking why do you need that? you need to change the con

other as gothic sort of columbine-type clothing. >> policing in their school are pretty good because there's police officers there all the time. >> reporter: now just a short time ago we have learned that that teenager is getting help at a facility. question also tell you that the teenager is facing several charges. some of them include threats to commit murder. also tonight we're trying to figure out exactly where that teenager got that amo from. we're trying to figure that out. we'll have more at 11:00. for now live in methuen, malini basu, fox 25 news. 10:00. a person has been pulled out from underneath an orange station. firefighters responded to a technical rescue within the past hour. transit police say it appears to be a woman who trespassed in the right of way that woman may have been struck by a train. she was unconscious when she was removed and rushed to the hospital. right now orange line service is suspended between north station and back bay. the mbta is asking riders to make use of the green line. >> clear surveillance photos showing a stack of stolen goods in the arms

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and i've been covering school shootings since columbine. and it's familiar.r it in the voice with the president here today and a lot of anger. no doubt. and john, as you say, the president didn't hold back during a white house news conference on the shooting a little bit earlier. mr. obama la meanting that mass killings here in the united states. and blasted those who oppose more gun control legislation. thursday's news conference marks the 15th final during his presidency he's addressed gun violence. here's what he's had to say after each deadly incident. >> we've had to endure tragedies like this too many times. we come together filled with sorrow for the 13 americans that we have lost. with gratitude for the lives that they led and with the determination to honor them through the work we carry on. i have come here tonight as an american, like all americans to pray with you today and will stand by you tomorrow. and the federal government stands ready to do whatever is necessary to bring whoever is responsible for this heinous crime to justice. >> all of us

schools increased after the columbine attack in 1999. there are more than 10,000 of them.ourtney keeley reports. >> scenes like this in sack ramtho, california where a high school principal needed help to break up a fight, one argument in favor of putting police in schools. >> as a school resource officer, i am here as a law enforcement officer. so, i am here to help keep the school safe, keep the grounds safe. but i am also here to act like a teacher for the kids. >> but after this video from south carolina went viral, advocates are questioning whether police in schools are a good idea. >> what we are finding is that police officers are being put in the schools and school administrators are now relying on them to enforce school regulations where they shouldn't have any part in it. >> sean burke heads a lobbying group dedicated to improving safety in schools. he said police known as school resource officers should only step in to deescalate violent circumstances, not to discipline children for routine misbehavior. >> you guys know the difference between a rule and a law? h

others as -- sort of replica of columbine-type clothing. >>reporter: investigators said he told his friends about the plans and they are crediting that friend for stepping up and saying something. >> if it had not been stopped, something could have happened to the child themselves. >> that suspect referenced mass shootings at school and talked about in length more than once. >> in person and also some posting, some written text identifying the suspect as a juvenile saying that he is a junior at metheun high school. parents were assured that no one is in danger, but many of them are still left with many questions. >> a lot of threats. a lot of things are going on like that across the country, , not just here. one of the biggest questions that parents have this morning why they weren't notified about this until two day after the suspect was arrested. the superintendent says he has a good reason for that, however, and we are however, and we are hearing from her at 5:30. >>> new this morning, bridgewater state has formally closed a sexual assau

we talked about this after columbine and after tucson, after newtown, after aurora, after charleston. >> joining me is former washington, d.c. homicide detective rod wheeler and bo dietl, both are fox contributors. bo, start with you. the "new york times" sunday had a story about school shootings, mass shootings, they are more common but went back and said the cdc says it's about 15-30 average per year for the last 20 years, long before columbine, and that that's in a country with 100,000 plus public schools. so is it prevalent? is it increaseing? >> my feelings on this thing. this time right now some of the kids killed and the teachers, it's not a time to start to politicize this thing. we have to mourn about it, to stop bringing out about gun violence. our safest cities in america supposedly have the strongust gun laws have the most homicides, chicago, new york over here, what we're talking about right now is something that occurred on a campus. what we should be talking about is the security factor when you get the president of that university on television saying we're not changin

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we've talked about this after columbine after blacks burg after aurora after charleston. >> frustration from president obama after another mass shooting in the united states. hello, i'm darren jordan with the world news from doha. russian says it's going after i.s.i.l. and other armed groups in syria after accusations of civilian casualties. >>> is efforts to keep the peace in ukraine. after time in paris. >> i'm shihab rattanzi. now fear that lobsters could be next. >>> u.s. president barack obama is urging the american public to help stop gun violence in the country. his plea for common sense on gun safety follows another mass shooting. a candle lit vigil is being held for the victims after a gunman opened fire in a community college in roseburg, oregon. tom ackerman reports. >> reporter: police responded to shots fired by the gunman at a classroom on the campus of umpqua community college in roseburg. >> there was an exchange of gun fire. the shooter threat was neutralized. >> reporter: a witness told a local newspaper that after firing his first shot at a teacher gunman told student

we've talked about this after columbine after blacks burg after aurora after charleston. >> frustrationpresident obama after another mass shooting in the united states. hello, i'm darren jordan with the world news from doha. russian says it's going after i.s.i.l. and other armed groups in syria after accusations of civilian casualties. >>> is efforts to keep the peace in

april 20, 19 99, 2 students opened fire at columbine high school in colorado. they killed 12 students and a teacher. they also injured two dozen others before taking their own lives. this was the deadliest attack in an american school in more than 15 years. since then, there have been many more mass shootings in the u.s. the deadliest attack of the 2000s occurred at virginia tech in april 2007. student opened fire in the middle of campus, killing [inaudible] and wounding others. then the shooting in aurora, colorado with 12 people shot the and several injured at screening of "the dark knight rises." a man forced his way into sandy hook elementary school leaving 26 dead. more recently, the killing in south carolina with white ,upremacist dylann roof killing nine african-americans. 100e have been more than hub at murders in the u.s. since the 60's -- 1960's. with only 5% of the world's population, the u.s. have close to one third of all mass shootings. anchor: let's get a brief check of other stories. thousands of job cuts on the radar. warning ofance ceo is a si

. >> gothic replica of columbine type clothing. >> officers recovered bullets but no guns. the arrest was made monday night but the superintendent says there was a good reason parents weren't told until wednesday. >>> so we would have the correction information to relay to the parents. >> reporter: police do not believe there's an immediate danger to the students at the school. the 16-year-old student has been taken in for a mental evaluation and is due in court november 2nd. live in methuen, nick emmons, "7 news today in new england." >> jadiann: thank you. new details about the reported sexual assault at bridgewater state. university police have closed the case saying the original report was unfounded. investigators released this sketch of a man they say sexually assaulted an 18-year-old student monday. the woman said she met the man through the messaging app kik be filed. >> christa: happening now, police searching for two robbers on the run in mansfield. officials say the two masked men broke into a store on school street sunday night, climbing through a hole in the wal

unlike columbine, these guys immediately engaged the shooter and he died in the gunfight. no mention of a suicide which is rather common in some of these mass shootings. we are expecting news conferences later today. we should find out the identity of the victims today or tomorrow. at this point, they have served a search warrant. we should learn more about the shooter. the father and sister have been spoken to. all we know about this guy is that he liked target shooting, was quiet, kind of an odd kid. rosanna: i was reading this morning that he foreshadowed that he was all blogs. he talked about maybe they should not go to school tomorrow. he was talking about violence. greg: very close with his mother. burying reports about his normalcy or degree thereof. take a look at the sheriff. rosanna: john hamlin. greg: interesting. a calming voice in all of this. a couple years ago he wrote a lately letter to vice president joe biden essentially demanding for no increased gone this is in the wake of columbine rosanna: and the sandy hook elementary shooting in connecticut. greg: h

. >> we talked about this after columbine, after tucson, after newtown, after aurora, after charleston. >> frustration for president obama after another mass shooting in the u.s. >>> and top politicians accuse india of imposing an economic blockade. >>> i'm john holman on mexico's south pacific coast where hundreds of thousands of turtles arrive each year, but the majority of their eggs are being stolen. ♪ >>> russia air strikes inside syria are continuing for a third day. syrian monitoring groups say overnight air raids on isil positions killed 12 fighters. opposition groups are also said to have been targeted. turkey has asked russia to stop attacking syrian opposition groups that are supported by the west. it says the intervention will only elevate the tension on the ground. this man explains why the syrian intervention is important for russia. >> turkey supports moderate opposition factions in syria, while for russia, these moderate, or less moderate factions are also part of their targets because initially -- at the very beginning, russia has already pointed out that it is going t

reporter: tragic mass shootings from columbine to sandy hook to last week in oregon have schools rethinking how they will respond to an armed intruder. it's a departure from the radiational school lock down which is keeping the kids in the classroom and simply locking the door. >> we've really taught our kids it's okay to evacuate run and hide in the woods and things like that. so, if god forbid something happens they would know what to do. reporter: there's better marking of locations and the school. should running become an option. this video shows how drills have been carried out at other school districts under a program called alice. alert lock down inform counter evacuate. >> it's not just sitting there and waiting it's reacting. it's listening to what's going on. reporter: some parents believe it makes the students less afraid. >> i think it does make the kids feel a little more comfortable if they feel they have a plan. what to do. reporter: in a small town they are prepared just in case. >>> the trial of the danvers teen accused of raping and killing his math teacher begins this wee