prior to columbine nobody understood what the term active shooter meant. >> prior to columbine, police set up a perimeter to secure this. they didn't move in immediately. >> tactical teams wouldn't take a piece from a local department and a police officer and a federal agent. you continue do that. now days what we do is go to the sound of give up. you get four people together, we're trained we use particular formation. different things we say. >> it's the initial officers who are on the scene. if it's a bike cop or traffic cop. whoever it is. you go in and try to get the shooter. >> you are putting a group together. go to the sound of gun. in the old days it was you took land. you went in and cleared a room. and slowly moved to clear the next room. in this instance we learned post columbine. get to the shooter as quickly as possible. they what they did here. >> the reason of that, my understanding the fbi has done kpausive reviews of every active shooter situation since columbine. and learned that most of the fatalities take place in the first six minutes. they are usually very short.

colorado's columbine high school. with me now is author dave cullen, who wrote the book columbine. i've read it two or three times. it's an incredible read. it changed my whole perspective on this. nothing ever changes. i mean we talked about this. you've been on countless times, and it just -- nothing ever changes. >> it doesn't. that's what i can't -- i couldn't agree more with what he said. we don't do anything, and the gun thing is -- we've got to do something. but at least there i understand the politics of it. some of the other things like screening for teen depression, that's easy. it's not political. it's really cheap. there's a one page form. it takes 30 seconds. it's highly effective. why don't we start there. >> you said studies show a lot of these shooters have depression. >> exactly. exactly. that's the greatest number of them. so the definitive report the secret service did where they studied all the school shooters for more than a 25-year period, and 78% had either suicidal attempts or had talked about attempting suicide. that's an astounding number. and this is in a

can you remind us what has been done since columbine?ll, i think the number one thing that has been done is back on april 20th, 1999, there was a protocol being used by the police that was secure the perimeter. and as a result of that, the police got unjustly criticized because they did not go into the building that day, but they were being -- doing what they were taught to do. what they had been trained to do. well, since columbine, i know when i go out and present, i can't tell you the number of people that thank me because of the lessons learned just from the protocol being used. now, first responders, the first officer on staff is immediately going in. now, we saw something happening at arapahoe high school in 2013, where the school resource officer immediately engaged with the shooter, and unfortunately, claire davis lost her life, but lives were saved because of the protocol changing. i think back to april 20th, 1999. the only drills we really did at columbine were fire drills. now, kids from the time they enter elementary school a

reminiscent of what we saw back in the 90s i think columbine columbine -- at the columbine high school massacre. the suspect was arrested by law enforcement about a mile and a half away from the high school and he's been named. according to the associated press, citing an unnamed federal official, as nicholas cruz, 18 years old, described as a former student of the high school but not a current student. some reports from students inside the school at the time the shooting or that the alarm had been pulled for a regularly scheduled fire drill earlier that day. around 2:30 p.m., that's when the suspect and shooter pulled the alarm and started shooting students as they fled the classrooms to run down the hallways. we do believe inside the school there are casualties that remain on the ground and what is going to be an enormous crime scene. some of the most tear felt moments came this afternoon when the broward county school superintendent robert runcie spoke about what he knew and what he saw at that moment. take a listen. >> can't confirm the number at this point that there are fatalitie

across the us television networks, since columbine and sandy hook, school shootings have made far tooy response on twitter. so many signs that the florida shooter was mentally disturbed, even expelled from school for bad and erratic behaviour. later, donald trump made a television appeal directly to children in america but made no mention of guns. to every parent, teacher and child who is hurting so badly, we are here for you, whatever you need, whatever we can do to ease your pain. we are alljoined together as one american family and your suffering is our burden also. the news that the fbi were warned that orphan nikolas cruz could be dangerous, the fact that he was a member of a white nationalist group and that apparently he was not allowed on campus wearing a backpack all point to a lack of any co—ordinated investigation into a clearly disturbed individual. law enforcement agents say that cruz bought a semiautomatic assault weapon legally a year ago. aris—style weapons have been used in several school massacres. they're the consumer version of the m—i6 and there are 8 million of th

they failed at columbine. wait a minute -- >> the background check system is flawed, isn't that the issue here? >> absolutely. >> we don't put information in it. we're not putting enough information in it. >> you're trying to put lipstick on a pig. you can put all the information you want in it, but the shooter in connecticut who stole his mother's firearms and shot her before he committed the crime isn't going to be stopped by a background check. neither were the two perpetrators in columbine that got other people to buy the guns for them. one of those straw purchasers went to prison for that, talk about the handgun, 21 age. the guy that went to prison was 22, he sold a handgun to one of the perpetrators that was 17. look, people, criminals are going to get a hold of guns. what we've got to look at is what's the solution? the solution frankly, you can put more guards at schools, if you have one guard, it is probably a waste of money because you're just endangering the guard unless you have two guards, and any

how do we not stop this after columbine, after sandy hook. i'm sitting with a mother who lost her son. it's still happening. in australia there was a shooting at a school in 1999. you know after that, they took a lot of ideas, put legislation together, and they stopped it. can anyone here guess how many shootings there have been in the schools since then in australia? zero. we need to do something. that's why we're here. >> fox news doesn't cover what happened in australia, so that's probably the very first time that donald trump heard that. even some people who own ar-15s have changed their minds this week about those weapons. there are youtube videos of owners of ar-15s destroying them, cutting them in half and saying proudly now we have one less ar-15. that's what the massacre did to them to change their mind. not one republican has changed their position on assault weapons. not one position who takes money from the nra, like florida senator marco rubio changed their opinion on assault weapon. donald trump and mike pence sitting in that ro

at columbine, sandy hook. those kids knew that these boys were troubled. >> but there's a lot of people like that that don't go out and shoot people. >> that's right. that's why we need a more sophisticated way of being able to intervene in the lives of these youksters before they turn violent. >> suppose there's a kid on social media, i want to get those kids who won't let me sit at their table or whatever the hell is. high school can be rough. so they're angry. what do you do with them? >> one really important thing. sandy hook promises the group that copy out of the tragedy does incredible works in schools to do exactly what you were talking to congresswoman wasserman-schultz about. teaming kids when their friends are going off the rails. the second thing is, we've got to make sure background checks are universal. it's insane they're not. >> frank, you're the expert. how do you know the point of danger? >>. >> from aspirational fantasy to acting how and getting more specific about your target anderson how y

i was at columbine back in 1999. i worked covering the sandy hook parents on capitol hill who sustained their energy for months in the very difficult sort of mission for their very small children who were killed, going door to door on capitol hill trying to make change. now here we are wiparkland. the president maybe making incremental progress, whether it's the bump stocks he talked about, the adaptation to weapons that could make them operate as if machine gun style, or age limits, or trying to deal with things with mental health. will that be enough? probably for those he would meet with, no. does he have the ability to get that done. this is an important data point for a president who has his own personal progression, to now being closely tied and supportive with the nra and now as president having a moment where he may be able to speak to this issue and perhaps try to get lawmakers to take action. that's where it gets difficult. >> we'll see what he's able to push and not able to push and the limitations of the

the aftermath of columbine of kids who took their own lives because they were impacted by columbine. and we see some of the things going on with social cyberbullying and these are senseless deaths. we need to come up with programs that reach out to kids. we need to tell parents, these are things you need to look for with your kids. because these kids are so smart with the social media. and do they know where their kids are going and the trouble they can get into? and it's not -- it's not to look to penalize or discipline, it's to help. and i think we need to send a strong message. what worries me is i think there has to be a strong message being september. because i can assure you there are people out there just like this killer that took 17 lives and injured that are saying, look at the recognition that this person is getting, and i want this type of recognition. and i can't tell you the number of killers that were involved, whether it be the person from sandy hook or the person from virginia tech that mentioned columbine as motivation. and the last thing we need right now is for th

outpacing columbine by two victims.ey general pam bondi on the difficulty that her job requires on times like this. >> the other scene was at the hotel where we were with the family members. having to tell with the fbi advocates and my advocates that a child, some 14 years old, dead, is one of the hardest things you have to do in your career. these parents, tremendous families are grieving. please respect their privacy. we were there until about 3:30 a.m. with these families. many of them had siblings that were in the school and survived. and then a brother or a sister did not. >> a vigil has been planned for 6:00 p.m. at the parkland amphitheater. we expect that right around sunset time to be packed with people because this truly is parkland, florida, a community; shep. >> shepard: thanks, phil. coverage continues after this. patrick woke up with a sore back. but he's got work to do. so he took aleve this morning. if he'd taken tylenol, he'd be stopping for more pills right now. only aleve has the strength to stop toug

was used against students at columbine and douglas. and finally, have lot of substitute teachers on hand. in case douglas teachers need a moment to compose themselves. >> i believe in them. >> corson notice her teachers and staff will be hurting tomorrow, too. but she believes in them. >> um, it may be different in on thes minds especially teachers in that building and heard every shot. but i think they're strength has grown and their minds have changed in different perspectives. i think they can do it. i'll really think they can do it. >> be sure to stay with us here at fox 29 for continuing coverage as those students return to school in parkland, florida. >>> one man is dead and two others are injured in a shooting in fair hill. investigators say two guys walk out of a store on the 66 s hicks hundred block of clearfield street when a masked man opened fire. one man was hit in the head and died at the hospital the other was hit in the arm. an innocent bystander was also hit in her back and both of them are in stable condition tonight

that was the scene nearly 20 years ago at columbine high school.earned again this week, the scenes, the images have become all too familiar. my next guest has been through it himself. he was shot six times at columbine high school and spent years in a wheelchair and endured numerous surgeries. he is a survivor and a fighter and now a father himself. sean graves is joining us now, and sean, thank you for taking the time this weekend. when you learned of this shooting at stoneman douglas high school in south florida, what went through your mind? >> i would like to say it was shock, but unfortunately that wasn't the emotions that i had. i kind of felt like in this case, this one rang differently for me personally in at least i know a few other people that it did the same. this one hit close to home for some reason. >> what do you mean by that? how does something like this affect you personally? do you have flashbacks, or what struck you? >> well, this one, and the reason it struck differently i think is because a lot of the scenes in the media or the

pick out anyone in the crowd and see. >> let's do it. >> so we got holley carpenter in her columbineis time the guy's going to fight back. >> this time the gunman resisting her effort to disarm him. she's glad to have strategy she can line. >> how's that feel? >> really good. >> this active shooter drillend this time everyone arms themselves with a tennis ball but in real life might well be a hole punch or desk, chair, tony zych airy, this time it's the active shooter whose the sitting duck. would this works if the if this class full of kids, hard to know. but unfortunately with every incident like today in parkland more and more communities figure better safe than sorry. >> our thanks to you david we'll be right back. where's frank? it's league night! 'saved money on motorcycle insurance with geico! goin' up the country. bowl without me. frank.' i'm going to get nachos. snack bar's closed. gah! ah, ah ah. ♪ ♪ i'm goin' up the country, baby don't you wanna go? ♪ ♪ i'm goin' up the country, baby don't you wanna go? ♪ geico motorcycle, great rates for great rides. i ...prilosec otc 7 y

columbine was april 20, 1999. 13 fatalities and more than 20 wounded. also in '99, a high school in new mexico. in elementary school in michigan. 2000, lake worth community middle school in florida. 2001, santana high school in california. 2001, red lion junior high school. 2003, rocori high school in minnesota. 2005, red lake high school in minnesota. 2005, tennessee. 2006, essex elementary school in vermont. 2006, weston high school in wisconsin. 2006, west nickel mines school in pennsylvania. 2011, millard high school in nebraska. 2012, a high school in ohio. 2012, sandy creek elementary school in connecticut where 26 elementary school students and others were killed. in 2013, sparks middle school in nevada. 2013, arapaho high school in arapaho colorado. 2014, reynolds high school in oregon. 2014, marysville high school in washington. in 2016, independent high school in arizona. in 2016, townsville elementary school in north carolina. in 2017, north park elementary school in california. in 2017, freeman high school in washington. in 2018, marshall co

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you go back to columbine, you can go back even before columbine. a this is so often the typical m.o. >> alert anybody you can to somebody who's exhibiting this unstable behavior or exhibiting behavior that you believe could lead to violence and they did in this case. >> they did. police were at the house. >> over and over and over again. so the conversation's got to move past reporting it. the reporting of it happened. the conversation has got to move to when you report it what are you going to do about it, or if you're going to report it and there's nothing you can do about it, do you need to move if you read back and decide how people are able to have such an easy access to weapons? and not just a shotgun that you can use for hunting or a pistol. according to my reading and tell me if i'm wrong, he could not have bought a 9 millimeter glock because he was not 21. he could not have bought a pistol which shoots people one by one by one by one, but he could walk in and legally buy a semiautomatic weapon, who knows if he used a bump stock, doesn't re

i mean there was i think it was an all go all the columbine. from my cold dead. you know i think that part of the problem is that that the gun lobby has been very successful in getting their message out much more so than those who want to see reasonable gun laws they control the narrative that you're either for the second amendment or against it you're either for freedom or against freedom the surest way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good way that god. that you're after these mass shootings gun sales do tend to go up just because people start getting free tao people think that the government is gonna take our guns i mean i hate seeing the shootings happen but it is definitely it is good for business. this is a smith and wesson n.n.p.c. fifteen in is our best selling weapon right now now a pretty tough. here. and. as. a solo weapon seem to control the city. what is the this is a semiautomatic rifle. is it is in all an assault weapon no one else. similar magic one pull the trigger one shot and that is what differentiates is it in your eyes the fight the ones fu

back from columbine. when you're waiting for forty five minutes for a bus that should have only taken a couple minutes i then began to realize that there was no last school bus. how old was daniel when he died fifteen. seventeen years ago when we last met i think it ended in tears for me because i realized again what i what i would do if they came to take my gun and that would be the end of it for. this country for sure and i'm not willing to hand that over. or. no i'm able to do it and i know i would do it. protect my rights. the rights of my friends the rights of my loved ones the rights of this country. the able you mean struggle you know that therefore i don't have to think so. or the store i wouldn't let it go easily and probably not while i'm living. i feel like there are a lot of gun owners out there who don't take the responsibility of owning guns carrying guns storing guns i don't think they take it seriously enough why the resistance to regulation. because it leads to more regulation. that's too

go ahead, sorry. >> i remember in columbine you were talking about a rally that took place after columbinekids and said everything is going to be okay, but the principal got up and said kind of a much more fact-based thing and the kids responded to that. >> the morning after, 10:00 a.m. at the light of the world church where they could house everybody. there were about 20 different officials and they went one after the other and i was sitting in the back thinking -- honestly thinking i have no idea what to these kids and i'm glad i'm not up there. i don't know what to say, but i knew these people were not saying it. the kids were politely applauding, but like okay. frank deangeles got up and told them the truth. he said the opposite. he said this is going to be really rough. we are going to have a hard time. this is not going to be easy. i don't have all the answers, but i will figure it out with you and we will get through it together. he brought them up. io bullshit. telling them the truth and they love that. they went wild. here was an adult leveling with them. it was the first huge one

. >> families from florida, from sandy hook, from columbine. and what the president then said to them. >>> the young people descending on florida's state capital today. what they encountereded as students across the country walk out in solidarity, demanding an end to the school shootings. >>> tonight, honoring the man known as america's pastor. reverend billy graham. and what he told diane sawyer about death. how often he thought about it and his hope afterward. >>> the massive winter storm tonight. 20 states. the rescues. this woman on the roof of her car. snow, ice, blinding rain from texas all the way up to the northeast. >>> tonight, the newest school plot. the discovery when police search a student's home. three alleged plots, three different parts of the country. >>> and the american tourists and the ferry explosion at a popular tourist destination. the wounded treated right there on the scene. >>> good evening. and it's great to have you with us here on a wednesday night. and we begin tonight with the bravery and the raw emotion on full

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i apologize. >> bring it back so many memories for him i'm sure columbine high school. two students killed 12 other students and a teacher. they also injured more than 20 others before killing themselves in the school library. coming up in our 8:00 hour the police chief of the oakland unified school district will join us in the studio. were going to talk about school safety measures and how parents can help and good to know how to discuss these things with your children as well.>> time is 433, were going to check our weather now . >>> it's a nice forecast you guys. we have clear skies. it looks like some warmer temps into saturday but after that we will be back in the freezer if you will. because temperatures are going to drop big-time. now into saturday looks warmer, certainly tomorrow and saturday look to be pretty nice. maybe 70 on saturday. we get a little bit northerly breeze a dry cold front came through. it pushed everything out of southern california into arizona where they got some big- time rain. 20s, 30s and 40s . 29 degrees in lakeport. there's enough of the

and i think art also referenced columbine. columbine, which happened in, i think, april of 1999, was essentially a wake-up call to law enforcement. it basically taught us, we cannot sit back in these situations and deal with them as we have in the past, which was the slow, steady, methodical law enforcement clear. in these types of situations now, whether it's determined to be charism or a disgruntled employee or somebody that has a particular beef with a particular student or faculty member we, in law enforcement, have to move to the sound of the guns and i'm confident in watching the scenes unfold on cnn right now and seeing the way this has developed. this is what we train for. from the fbi perspective, we absolutely want to put this out as far as the mantra that folks need to follow in these active shooter situations. first thing you need to do is run. if you can't do that, it's to hide in some type of secure place where you have cover and concealment. the next thing you need to do, absent those two options, is to fight. t

>> 19 years ago the first school shooting, columbine, at columbine high school happened and i was bornnto a world where i never got to experience safety and peace. there needs to be significant change in this country because this has to never happen again. and people should be able to feel that when they go to school they can be safe. >> parents from parkland, florida, and shootings like columbine and sandy hook also came face to face with the president. >> i'm here because my daughter has no voice. she was murdered last week and she was taken from us. shot nine times on the third floor. >> reporter: andrew pollack's daughter, meadow, was an 18-year-old senior. >> we go to the airport, i can't get on a plane with a bottle of water, but we leave it so some animal can walk into a school and shoot our children. it's just not right and we need to come together as a country and work on what's important. all these school shootings, it doesn't make sense. fix it. there should have been one school shooting and we should have fixed it. and i'm pissed, because my daughter i'm not going to see ag

back from columbine. when you're waiting for forty five minutes for a bus that should have only taken a couple of minutes i then began to realize that there was no last school bus. how old was daniel when he died fifteen. seventeen years ago when we last met i think it ended in tears for me because i realized again what i what i would do if they came to take my gun that would be the end of it for. this country for sure and i'm not willing to hand that over. no i'm able to do it and i know i would do it. protect my rights. the rights of my friends the rights of my loved ones the rights of this country. they believe in struggle you know that therefore i don't think so. or the story would let it go easily and probably not while i'm living. i feel like there are a lot of gun owners out there who don't take the responsibility. owning guns carrying guns storing guns i don't think they take it seriously enough why the resistance to regulation. because it leads to more regulation. that's too slippery of a slope w

since columbine.rlier of 150,000 children who have been affected by gun violence in the school. since columbine. and when you think about 150,000 children who have been affected over the last 20, 30 years and what that is doing to the society, and what it's teaching our children. first of all it's dissensitizing them to violence. it's making it acceptable that guns can be carried on the street. can be taken into schools. can be taken into theaters and used against other citizens. we're killing people at a rate that if it were a war, we would be in the streets boycotting and picketing and screaming and yelling. yet, our senators and congressmen are doing nothing. and not listening to us. i'm all for a ban on the assault style weapons. they're killing too many people. at too high a rate. >> tell me about your group. and what you try to do for survivors and families. >> we build coalitions across the country with other grass roots organizations that are working on the gun violence prevention. process. an

i'm a sophomore. 19 years ago the first school shooting, columbine, at columbine high school happened, and i was born into a world where i never got to experience safety and peace. there needs to be a significant change in this country because this has to never happen again. and people should be able to feel that when they go to school they can be safe. and because there needs to be a change -- i'm sorry. people need to feel safe and parents shouldn't have to go through the idea of losing their child. as i know for my dad, he was panicking and he couldn't imagine it. so, that shouldn't even be a possibility. that shouldn't go through a parent's mind. there needs to be some change. thank you. >> thank you. thank you very much. >> kerry, justin's dad. and i'll be brief. you know, justin was texting me, hiding in a closet, saying if something happens, i love you. something happens, i love you. you can't imagine what that's like as a parent, and then his phone died and i didn't know what happened for another hour. so, 17 lives are gone. i was lucky enough to get my son home, but 17 famili

so i apologize. >> columbine high school, two students were killed. killed 12 other students and a teacher. they also injure 20 others before killing themselves in that school library. certainly that was bringing back a lot of horrible memories for him.>>> as we go over to steve, steve you were in denver when that happened? >> yes i was there. it forever changes the community. >>> we will get to our temperatures right now, they are quite cold for some. there are some 20 degrees to the north. there a lot of 30 degrees but even around the bay we have 40s, el cerrito is 43 degrees. berkeley labs are at 45 degrees. there chilly readings but all signs point towards warmer temperatures coming in friday and saturday. we will peek out on saturday. don't be surprised you get some 70 degrees, certainly east san jose and santa clara valley. after that the temperatures will go down. a dry front came through and has picked up the breeze it will be sunny today and breezy. temperatures will be mid 60s for some. 29 degrees in lakeport. 30s, 40s if it wasn't for that

how are we not learned after columbine, after sandy hook, sitting with a mother who lost her son, it is still happening >> reporter: mr. trump spoke of strengthening background checks and possibly arming teachers. >> if you had a teacher was adept at firearms it could very well even the attack very quickly. >> reporter: in tallahassee thousands, many teenagers, swarmed florida state house calling for changes to gun laws, around 100 survivors of last weeks shooting were among them. hena doba for cbs-3 "eyewitness news". >>> spokeswoman for nra was at that town hall she spoke of flaws that allows mentally ill people to allow to buy guns and she also said law enforcement is not doing enough to raise red flags leading up to the attack. >>> margaret brennan is at the white house with more on president's listening obsession see her report at 7:00 on cbs this morning that air right here after "eyewitness news" this morning at cbs-3. >>> north hampton county district attorney is talking about preventing mass shootings, john morgannelis having a press conference where he will announce a plan

we have seen it since columbine and it is terrifying for everyone involved. >> 50 have been injured in this shooting. there is the possibility that this could be more than one individual going back to getting intel but i mentioned columbine earlier and that was two individuals and when you see those injured, do you start to think that maybe there is two? >> the number of weapons and ammunition that you have to plan to carry on to the campus is a lot of ammunition for one individual. so you would have to think or at least investigate the possibility of numerous shooters. >> is there anything else you would like to add about the situation? >> i just want to make sure our thoughts and prayers are with the victims of this horrific event. >> thank you for joining us this afternoon. >> thank you, shara. >> it is a critical moment at this time coming up on one hour since the first report of gunfire on the marjory stoneman douglas high school campus in parkland, florida right north of fort lauderdale. if you have ever been in south florida it is by fort lauderdale. it started at a 2:45 on the

the protests held against the owner a convention took place ten days after columbine. knew what happened at columbine on april twentieth one thousand nine hundred nine less that two two young men who were intent on killing as many students as they could they opened fire on students outside and then went when when confronted with a police presence they went inside the school. began shooting there went into the library and that's where they think they killed and injured the most students and that's that's where my son once then went worse as the day went on. no word from him being asked by the police if we could provide a description of him and what he was wearing at one point asking for dental records and being told one point that there was one last school bus bringing students back from columbine. when you're waiting for forty five minutes for a bus that should have only taken a couple of minutes i then began to realize that there was no last school bus. and how old was daniel when he died fifteen. seventeen years ago when we last met i think it ended in tears for me b

but when you looked at the columbine shooters and that was an unusual one that you had two working together. they wanted that to be a mass casualty incident, even bigger. they had explosive devices. >> exactly. that's runs throughout almost all of these. but i think we get in trouble when we call it fame or infamy because people have difficulty understanding are they really

. >> how have we not stopped this after columbine, after sandy hook. >> president trump signals he is open to change. >> we're going to do a lot, but we're going to be strong on background checks. >> some big name republicans break with the nra as the list of companies cutting ties with the gun lobby grows. >> stand and unflinchingly defend the second amendment. >> and the president pushes a controversial plan to arm some teachers. >> we have to harden our schools, not soften them up. >> i disagree with arming

we should have been talking about this since columbine. you had a statistic earlier of 150,000 children who have been affected by gun violence in their schools since columbine. and when you think about 150,000 children who have been affected over the last 20, 30 years, and what that's doing to our vote, and what it's teaching our children. first of all, it's desensitizing them to violence. it's making it acceptable that guns can be carried on the street, can be taken into schools, can be taken into theaters and used dpeagainst ot citizens. we're killing people at a rate, that if it were a war, we would be in the streets, boycotting and picketing and screaming and yelling. yet our senators and our congressman are doing nothing. and they're not listening to us. i'm all for a ban on these assault-style weapons. they're killing too many people at too high a rate. >> tell me about your group, and what you try to do for survivors and families. >> well, we build coalitions across the country with other grassroots organizations that are working on

this were supposed to be representatives from columbine

law enforcement has learned an awful lot since columbine.saw the result of that here where it's the first units on the scene. they try to get the shooter and deal with wounds and try to get everybody out. what more though can change? what more can get better? >> chief ramsey and i were walking around and talking to parents, they were so in their praise. at the tactical level we have figured out ways as the chief said you can't present all of them. it's the tstrategic level that involves the political component. looking at this from our new normal. they had a school resource officer on duty. they had a single point security entry to come in. they practiced these active shooter drills. >> the football coach said in his 28 years and he's worked at other schools, he's never seen a school which had practiced so much for exactly this. >> that probably saved countless lives. it skrould becould have been mu. >> some people say they did all these drills and yet 17 people are still dead. are the protocols enough here? >> obviously they're not enough.

since columbine it's just a perennial thing. it keeps happening, columbine, sandy hook and now douglas high school. but bringing it to a locality. what we saw in new york city in the 1960s, 1970s, 1980s, for three decades we saw crime get worse. 2,200 murders a year in new york city. nobody thought it would do anything but keep going up. theen rudy giuliani came to crime, cracked down on the smaller crimes that led to the bigger crimes. by that crackdown, just a simple crackdown on anybody getting out of control, murders were brought down, cut in half and then cut into quarter. now we have less than 400 murders a year. from 2200 to less than 400. sit as simple -- are people making it more complicated than it has to be? ed: i think what rudy did, he had the will and the strength and the support of the police. i feel very safe. i've lived here 23 years. i see police officers everywhere. we have police officers outside of here. i welcome them. their participation in protecting my life is very important. and i think to a certain ext

the protest held against the owner a convention took place ten days after columbine. knew what happened at columbine on april twentieth one thousand nine hundred ninety nine was that two two young men who were intent on killing as many students as they could they opened fire on students outside and then went when when confronted with a police presence they went inside the school began shooting there went into the library that's where they they they killed and injured the most students and that's that's where my son was then went worse as the day went on. no word from him being asked by the police if we could provide a description of him and what he was wearing at one point asking for dental records and being told at one point that there was one last school bus bringing students back from columbine. when you're waiting for forty five minutes for a bus that shivani taken a couple minutes i then began to realize that there was no law school bus. and how old was daniel. fifteen. in. the year. seventeen years ago when we last met i think it ended in tears for me because i

maybe this is a cultural shift where the kids who have grown up post-columbine don't feel beholden to an amendment that refers to a time gone by. but for the rest of america, the message they hear when i talk about gun control, they hear we're taking your guns.

>> reporter: teens streaming out single file, hands in the air, reminiscent of columbine. and so many other recent shootings. >> i'm just relieved he's okay, yes. >> reporter: officials calling it a mass casualty incident. >> i'm coming out to the east side with the casualty. got an ambulance standing by, critical. >> reporter: some of the victims treated on the sidewalk outside of the school. >> one of my friends who got out one of the windows, when he was running over here to go to his mom, he looked all shaken and stuff. and he said he did see two dead bodies. >> reporter: with the shooter described as a former student, still at large, scared students sheltering in place texting their loved ones. >> she was sending us texts like saying, i love you, i'm sorry, and all that. she didn't think she was going to make it. >> reporter: worried parents desperately waiting for news. many racing to the school. >> and he told me, we're still here, we hear gunshots outside of the classroom. >> oh, i'm happy because i have my son with me. i thank you jesus. i was very worried. >> it'

these are people who, of course, don't remember the columbine massacre back in in 1999.hey weren't born at that particular time. and unlike columbine, which had outrage but not activism following it, these people are calling for a change and they have come up with various ways of bringing that about, including this scheme to have a march on the capital, washington, dc, next month. that is going to be called the march for our lives. separately, they are planning a school walkout on the 20th of april, that marks the 19th anniversary of the columbine massacre and there's a big rally planned for wednesday in the florida capital tallahassee, all basically to advance the calls for tighter gun control laws here in america. david willis there in washington. let's take a look at some of the day's other news. rescue teams in western iran searching for a passenger plane which disappeared with more than 60 people on board have called off for their search for the night because of heavy snow. families have been gathering at a mosque close to the airport to get information about their

you know, you talked about columbine. we saw ndy hook. do think it's because, maxwell, se happened at a high school and, you know, ttudents do have more of a voice. theye they understand how to work social media and other platforms. >> i think so. i think it also has to do with e fact we lived through sandy hook, columbine. all of us livedro thegh the pulse nightclub shooting and other shootings. for it to happen, it's sfr frustrating and we're tired of g thoughticians send and prayers. it's time for them to do something about it. it's become a point where does the safety of our children become more freedimportant than freedom to own a gun. >> i would echo maxwell's point saying we're high schoolers. we're made for change.hr we seeghout history how youth and especially high school and college students have made such huge impacts in our country. anhink we're seeing that here. and i would also say that, yeah, we've grown up with these mass shootings. this affected our lives. we've never lived in a world n where it been a part of our daily l