jerry iwata is senior vice president of comerica bank. he suggests an alternative to vc or angel funding. it almost sounds quaint someone could walk into a bank and ask for a loan. in 2010, does anybody still do that in high-tech. >> it's funny, actually, when a person walks into a bank with $10 million, they call me up, wouldn't have to wait in line. >> they don't need a loan, jerry. interestingly enough, the startup businesses we work with, they are raising, particularly from first time fund-raising, money that will last 12 to 18 months. they will specifically need to raise further capital. because of our comfort in this area, we've lent to companies right on day one where the investors call us up, say we have money, we're looking for a loan. we've funded basically on a future. >> i do need to interrupt right there. there is somebody home who just said, the banker said, we have money. we need a loan. if they have money, jerry, why do they need the loan? explain that basic idea to me that i've been given $10 million. why am i getting a lo