although now when you haveive bodies comg back, it's going to be huge.rrow's newspapers will be full with stories like six, seven pages, just devoted to afghanistan. >>ight. and president obama'spparent determinion to push ahead with the missioin afghanistanow is thataffecting how italians, the italian government es him, his admistration? >> italia love president obama. and i don't think at the insistence o going on wth the r in afghanistan is going to affect the viethat italians ha of the administration. but if the president id that his euroanllies should mmit moretroops to the fort in afanistan, would theens nd more forces? that would be a very diffult decision for pre minister berlusconi >> what do you thin would be palatablfor the italians? maybe sending people that will work on the bac line. logistical support, police support, training rather than being on t front line. okay, thank you very much for joining us. >> thank you for having me. >>> saying with afghanistan, president hamid kzai defended his integri of the country's presidential election to

thanks for comg. are not discussing playboy o me being naked why don't you take your client home?r clit hasn't said anything. they cald us bause she was naked. you say don't mention it. of crse we're mentiong it. what was yr question? tavis: i was just askgco wha you thought were the b moments on the show. >> tt was great having the president on. i hadad him on twice befores auest. the diffence, each time he would come, he would have his jacket over his sulder. one person, maybe ather aid and cell phone. that was it. when h came back as predent, oh, my god, the parking lot was tented. snipers up in the -- and you ow what they do is they come in, secret svice comes in a week before and go up to members of my staff. don't come in tomorrow. ifou had a joint in yr sock backn 1979 a you got arrested for it. they have everybody's -- like oh, my god. tavis: it is amang you got thathow off the grod. >> the funnit thing, i said to someone, got hisumber. i dialed hisumber. hello. i sai yes, barack obama? this is barra. hey, it is jay leno. i had a direct line! tavi one other story i want to

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we could have a few mor steecxpdd showers comging auful ctidion expecsd on sunday. that's what we'll talk about during the next weather hit. not a bad weekend. >> excellent. >>> coming up, the war on terror on the anniversary of the 9/11 attacks. what happened to the hunt for osama bin laden? >> a second attempt, space shuttle "discovery" will try again to land in florida. >> and friday night lights. >> hello. we are kicking off the high school football season at dunbar high school. >>> the 9/11 anniversary and the battle for health care reform is the president obama's week. >> eight years since 9/11, osama bin laden the face of the terrorist attacks. is the obama's administration approach same as the bush administration to catch bin laden? >> one thing he said is increasing more troops to afghanistan. they are debating right now and there is a report whether or not there should be more troops. the purpose more troops to afghanistan has more to root out the taliban than wipe out bin laden. what obama campaigned on is put more pressure on pakistan and get them to cra

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he had opsed the house plan that had comeut -- that was comg out of the house. and he had written publicly about why he opposed it. i called him the day after obama's speech and he s very cited. he thoht the president had made real prress in allayi a lot of his concerns and adjusng some of the policys -- policies so it wod be fiscally responsible d address things. the blue dogs, modate democrats wereuite plsed. so the presint really cured that part of the party. >> lehrer: do you think he's wonny support among republicans or changedr soften thepposition in any y? >> not yet. but you ow it's possible he cld get a few in the nate. y it for this reason. to me the key part of the spee was i will not alw this to inease the deficit one dime nownd forever. now to get to that defici neutrality level the house bill generally goes away because that blows a he in the deficit. you start with the sene bill. but then you'vstill got to make som changes to bri it within thatost stcture. and that mns a whole series o coession on the employer tax exemption, maybe en on medicare -

you will cache the information in the form in which it is most easily absorbed and then make sure comg back, drilling. here is a story. this story i will tell you is a darwinian story. and it illustrates an very simple terms the central theme of my talk. so stay awake through the story and then whe some asks you what was that about, you can say i did hear the whole thing but this is the gist of the talk as he explained at the outset. so darwin asked this question your why is it that the members of vertebrate species, most of them, are asymmetric male versus female? than males in general in such species are bigger than generally more colorful than the females. whis that? darwin wanted to know. so for example the bull eant seal, e-mail of the species weighs upwards of 6000 pounds. that's as much as a lead-in that would cater waiter at the big sport utility vehicle. is it good for males to be big, and darwin pointed out to, not really. in fact it's quite burdensome for males to be big. they get more ailments at much younger agers they have to beat lots of food to maintain their body mass.

years ago when i first came in and the idea you have time to process thathrough the chain o command is comg from the tactical to the strategical policy makers and a flash. decisis have to be made quickly. operational assessments have to be made. context has to be given but it has to happen so fast. i have a piece in the book about speed of lit and the speed the technogy drives rapid decision making. the clich assessments that have to be done. we grew up with a planning process. we kw how to decide on course of action. and n you have to do it -- my son is a mine captain that doesn't happen now and if you are a general in command of a large organization it is even worse because you can't stu it and process it and do all the bureaucratic things used to be able to do before. you have to have a streamlined unit and the immediate so things like that didn't necessarily change the principle but it changed the way in the style you have to do things. >> host: thank you. that makes meetter. >> guest: you don't have to change the way that you lead, julius. >> hos i've been told that you and genera gord

we're at least comg to that decision point. and that's aritical decision th needs to be made. anto me, that's good news, becae at least it gives everybody inlved some sense of where this is gog. think that's something worth looking forward to because wh's been going on up until now is unacceptabl >> moyers: buteople say to me, you know, they're opposeto escalang the war. but they say, "h can we walk away from the people w joined th fight in no small part, because we've asked them to? >> right. and what happens ithe united stes and the coalition leaves? the taliban invariablyomes back. d there's the potential now for al qaeda to co back and we start it allver again. this is the prlem with afghanistan. you can't stay. you can't go. there are absolutes in this. and it this fine line that everybody's tryi to walk. are prepared for the risk that comes with aving and allong the taliban to come backn and potentially for that sanctuy to rise ain? and now you've got a pulation that's morangry and more powered in a very, very powerful and dangerous pt of the region. >> moyers: b you're

we have not adopted a shift, a major effort to get eipment to e afghans instead of much of it comg here from iraq with the great cost involved, i think the american people would support, and i support, and i think most of my colleagues would support getting essential equipment. it's basic stuff, you'realking bullets and vehicles and a few other things to the afghan army so they can take major responsibility for their own security. and what weo not yet have in place, altugh everyone agrees, that the potential is there, a plan to reentry grate and to afghan society those local taliban fighters. that what we must do. take those steps on an urgent basis before we consider additional combatorce >> sator, are you saying if general comes back and says he needs more combat troops that the president shnuld reject this? >> i'm saying this is my recommend. i hope he considers my recommendation. >> i don't there's a great deal of support to sending more troopsn the country or congress. do you think that's a true statement? >> my recommendation is based on how we can best succeed in afghanistan. i b

how iraq dealsith its neighbors will define whatind of region emerges in the comg ars.e need to help iraq find solutions to some of these longstanding regional issues. i think our diplomacy in iraq both internally and in bilateral terms but also multilaterally will have the vital role to play. we have expanded our efforts to facilitate force containing the beginning to resolve disputes in northern ira beten the kurds and arabs. i was just in the iraqi kurdistan of the weekend discussingow we can move forward on issues like developing vital oil sectors in a way that benefits all iraqis in how to address, begin to address the thorny dispute in kirk cook. we need to begin the process of getting various ethnic and sectarian communities engaged unsettling their disputes. the u.n. has an important role and we want to work closely with the u.n.. our diplomatic track is designed to fully complement our military efforts to foster cooperation between kurdistan regional security forces and peshmerga and those of the central government in baghdad and general odierno has been very m