comissiomer sugaya: aye. president fong: aye. >> you are now on item number 18, case number 2,011.1327c for 401 grove street. >> my name is kevin guy, with planning staff. the planning commission approved conditional use authorization for a project at 401 grove street to demolish an existing surface parking lot and construct a new mixed use development including 63 dwelling units and approximately 5000 square feet of commercial space, as well as 37 parking spaces. the plans presented to the commission depicted seven of the residential parking spaces in a confederation which would result in a total of 39 parking spaces. however, staff failed to identify these spaces, and the sponsor described an amount of parking which is principally permitted by the planning code. therefore, the conditions of approval or written to limit the total amount of spaces in an amount that did not account for the seven additional spaces that would result from these configurations. therefore, the project sponsor request an amendment t

comissiomer sugaya: aye. >> the motion passes. you are now on item 22 for 100 edna st.. >> good evening, planning commission. delmon washington. president fong: we have continued business. if you want to take conversation outside. mr. realtor with the bow tie mr. realtor with the bow tie? >> the planning commission is still in session. if you can take your congratulations and commissioners -- and commiseration outside, we appreciate it. and he is really not going to pay attention. he is going to continue doing his -- thank you, adrian. >> good evening, commission. delmon washington again. this is a proposal to demolish a rear deck and construct a two- story horizontal addition at the rear of a two-story single- family residence. the extension would be a 24 foot deep, set back 5 feet from the northern side property line. the overall height of the building would not increase. after the building is expanded, the rear wall will expand 8 feet further than the rear wall of the neighboring building to the north. this property is in an rh

comissiomer sugaya: thank you. commissioner moore: if we are approving in building with redwood siding and that has not been priced, we are talking about very expensive material. in the event we are approving something which because of cost would not be achievable, what guarantees do we have but we do not find some other material which is really not in the spirit of what we are approving? >> we are looking to take a step back. if the commission went so far as to bring it back to the commission before we were to take a drastic step -- if they were to change from redwood siding to something comparable, perhaps pressed a little bit more reasonable -- i cannot think of a typical material right now. if there was a change, it would most likely make the entire building stucco, as opposed to having sighting on the upper floor -- siding on the upper floor, rather than to come in with another material. commissioner moore: i know you do not design many residential buildings, but i am put on notice with commissioner sugaya ask

comissiomer sugaya: if you could include a couple of the good neighborly things. commissioner borden: if we could give him a copy of the good neighbor policy. comissiomer sugaya: following up, we have had several other -- one that comes to mind -- this is a different use. it was a request for formula retail on fillmore street. one of the things ever thinking of was to participate directly. -- they were thinking of was to participate directly with the merchants group. maybe sponsor some things with them. you might think of, i don't know, having some kind of a billiard education instruction program, especially for the neighborhood, and see if neighborhood kids might want to come to your place and learn how to play. i would like to learn how to play. even though i can play, i am not quite in this gentleman's category, i know. i have always wanted to learn how to play better, right? i do not know how to do the neat stuff. if you could sponsor things like that, working directly with the neighborhood groups here today, and others in the area, that would probably greatly

comissiomer sugaya: aye. president fong: aye. >> the motion passed unanimously. you are now on item 16. it is for 14 08 california st.. scott sanchez: before we start, i am pleased to introduce michelle stahlhut. she joined us in may and focuses mainly on wireless use. she is initially from indiana, but has lived in chicago and beijing. she received her master's in planning from the university of wisconsin, madison, where she focused on land use improvement and planning. after moving to california, she worked for san jose, working on planning and green building, but left to live in china for two years. she started in september. i am pleased to introduce michelle. welcome and thank you. >> of the afternoon, commissioners. before you is the conditional use authorization proposed by at&t to install a new wireless telecommunications service facility at 1408 california st.. it proposes a up to nine panel antennas located on the rooftop of a five-story 37-unit apartment building with ground- floor retail. that set back from the edge of the building by 5 feet deep, whic

comissiomer sugaya: if there are conditions of security cameras and a call -- and alcohol, i have a question. how early do you think you can handle the closing hour? i do not think -- i am not speaking for the other commissioners -- but i cannot support 2:00. if we back off from that our-- hour, can you live with 11:00? >> actually, no. we provide security and cameras and are not selling alcohol. in order to make money, we would need to operate to the early morning. we would just make money in those hours. it is too difficult for us. >> i feel it is an evening activity. it is kind of like closing a dance hall at 11:00. commissioner borden: it is interesting, because you're talking about a pool place, and the way it has been characterized, i would think someone was opening a strip club. it was very interesting to me. they are talking about a place where people can play pool. assumption about people who play pool is very poor by members of this audience, it seems. there seems to be a lot of judgment about the kinds of people that would choose to patronize a pool establishment. i understand you