the commission however to regulate.or example, july 1 on the public, feed affect rules to enable regulations plus subjectivity, plus oversight and less public input. the commission majority reduces protocols red tape on the commission to impose more velcro tape american businesses, large and small. well-crafted relations can help. full regulatory design on race innovation and reduce consumer choice. this is how america learned the hard way. when it comes to policy questions and great economic and political importance, my philosophy is that congress, cap the ftc is a place to answer. i believe the lock reflects that. i commend ranking member rogers, a recent letter calling for privacy legislation and for the ministration to make it a priority. adopting regulation i hope we address clearly defined problems from a fashion growth designed to address them and minimize unintended consequence. i hope we base our decisions on empirical evidence and input from all stakeholders which is why i support his act introduced by congres

we have a human rights commission. then we had a real commission. now we have the contract monitoring division and there is no commission. it comes as a city administrator. [indiscernible] -- the ethics commission [indiscernible] and the only person that woke you up was a person called david henderson from the f.b.i. -- >> clerk: your three minutes have expired. >> to do so something, but the entire investigation has stalled. thank you very much. >> clerk: please stand by. madam chair, there are no further callers in the queue. you are muted. >> perhaps turning up the sound will help. >> clerk: i unmuted you and then remuted you. can you speak again? it looks like we lost audio on yo you. jerod, are you indeed the house. [indiscernible]. >> so the public comment is closed on agenda item number 10. going back to the airport commission because the [indiscernible] -- >> maybe we can give an overview of what the next steps might look like. as i mentioned, this phase on gifts we split into two reports. there is this report on gifts to individuals and the

with the ethics commission. i worked with staff closely in creating this exception. as the commissioners may or amenity know, the san francisco airport is an enterprise fund of the city and county of san francisco. we received no support financially from the city's general fund. we raised our own money to pay our own expenses. so this exception back a number of years to 2007. this followed out of the shipping industry which was these meetings that were held over dinner and particularly the genesis for this really came from the asian carriers who would travel to san francisco to decide if they would deploy their aircraft to serve the san francisco market. because of certain rules, some of the executives at that time had to decline the dinners that for the asian carriers they would lose faith, that they weren't able to express their gratitude and hospitality. really, the genesis was to accommodate cultural business practices from asian carriers deciding if they wanted to serve san francisco airport. we are competi

first the bipartisan nature of the commission visible wart because if the agency if the commission breaks to be skeptical it also censures to judicial review if the ftc does over reason there is a congressional review act. so there are a lot of guardrails. in addition the ftc should ensure it has jurisdiction over the telecommunication and nonprofit entities the rationale for the common carrier that the ftc constantly regulates all activities of monopoly carriers no longer exist online between commentaries and other telecommunications services has been obliterated and the consumer faces real risks false claims of internet speed and unfair and deceptive acts. and the safe healthcare providers with the nonprofit status. and it's always difficult to urge the subcommittee to take on along with the point everyone has made all day that the ftc is resourced and has four times the number of employees of the 2 million-dollar budget 501 employees and that is time it had its reasonable share. thank you so much. >> you are recognized for five minutes. >> thank you chairwoman and ranking member and me

from -- might help the commission. from what i understand about the process, it went through stipulation to retain the facade, and that was part of -- i see the mitigation in the e.i.r. process. so is there a worry that the facade would not be maintained if there was not a landmark designation status? there was a mark that the floor, they didn't want to be part of the character defining features, and basically, they're retaining that. i'm not sure what the conflict here is, but if the project is moving forward with the facades, and if that is acceptable to commissioners, then that might not be a worry. and as far as voting for, you know, the landmarking, if there are -- if there's a majority vote to landmark, that would be passed on, would it not? it doesn't need to be unanimous, does it? >> it does not, that's correct. and did you want, commissioner nageswaran, for staff to come back and to confirm? >> yeah. i mean, besides the history, is there some other thing that i'm missing besides the facade if we don't designat

also requires the commission vote. requesting authorization for a new grant agreement with institute on aging, provision for the center of elderly suicide prevention and related services during july 1st, 2021, through june 30th, 2021, not to exceed $1.926 and melissa mcgee has this item. >> hello again. thank you commissioners and director dearman. today for this grant, i'm here to ask your approval to enter into contract with the institute on aging for the provision of the center for elderly suicide prevention program. the purpose of this grant is to help maintain or improve the wellbeing of older adults and adults with disabilities from a suicide prevention services with provision of prevention and emotional support services. under this grant, the services provided include grief education and counseling. informal and formal emotional support, crisis intervention and suicide prevention services as well as recent loss education and training for staff and community-based organizations. many in the community know of the

as the commission may recall, the sponsor of this, sfmta, gave a presentation to the commission on may 15, 2021. i will briefly summarize the project [inaudible] now. the 4.4 acre site is located in the commission neighborhood. the project site contains the sfmta's potrero trolley coach division facility, which consists of two service facilities and a parking lot. the building was constructed in 1915 and is individually eligible for listing on the california registry of [inaudible] therefore, 2500 mariposa street is a historical resource for the purposes of ceqa. the proposed project would demolish the existing transit facility and replace it with a new, 1.3 million square foot transit facility, covering the entire city block, to include a 75-foot tall [inaudible] space for 213 buses, 97 nonrevenue vehicles, 18 [inaudible] and battery infrastructure. it would also include up to 575,000 [inaudible] and 75,000 square feet of commercial uses. the draft e.i.r. also analyzed four project squares which consist of various modernization of the projects that do not include [inaudible] on the hi

a future commission meeting. >> thank you. in terms of cases closed, there are 509 cases closed so far this year. last year, we were at 497. we currently have 283 cases that are still pending. of those cases, 29 of the cases have been sustained. this time last year, we were at 21. regarding cases that have investigations that have gone over nine months, this year, there are 27 cases. last year, there were 33 cases. we've mediated 29 cases this year. of those cases that are over nine months, 15 of those cases are tolled cases. there are 14 cases that are with the commission, and there are 21 cases that are pending with the chief. during the past week, we received 16 new cases with a total of 27 allegations. 50% of the involved officers were for allegations that they spoke or behaved inappropriately. 19% of those cases involved referrals to other agencies or departments. 13% involved officers engaged in bias policing or discrimination. 13% alleged involved officers who failed to properly investigate, and another 13

members of the public may address the commission for up to three minutes on any matter within the commission's jurisdiction that does not appear on the agenda. speakers shall address their remarks to the commission as a whole and not to individual commissioners or department personnel. commissioners are not to enter into debate or discussion with the speaker. the lack of a response by the commissioners or department personnel does not necessarily constitute agreement with or support of statements made during public comment. there's no one on the public comment line. >> public comment will be closed. >> clerk: item 3. approval of minutes. discussion and possibility action to approve the july 14th, 2021 meeting minutes. >> president feinstein: do we have any public comment, madam secretary? >> clerk: no one is on the public comment line. >> president feinstein: public comment shall be closed. any questions or discussions from my fellow commissioners? i'm seeing none. >> thank you. ok. commissioner cleavland. >> i'm sorry. i did miss hear you. ok, is there a second? commissioner nakajo, we will t

give me a break because two general managers on the commission. why are we going with this appointment? thank you very much. >> thank you, caller. there is one other caller in the queue. >> caller, go ahead. you have two minutes. >> can you hear me okay? >> yes, we can. >> caller: great. david pilpal again. and i wanted to call to i a tension on items 5b and e and in both cases the memos and information is fine. the people awe thorring the memos are all acting and i look forward to the day when we have fewer acting appointments and more permanent people in charge of the importance funk functions. that is all. thanks. >> thank you, caller. public comment on item five, communications, is closed. >> next item. item six is the bay area water supply agency update with member sandkulla. >> good afternoon. i wanted to talk about the bay area delta plan and the impact on the customers. and i urge you to protect the fish in the river with ere implementation of nonflow river proposed in the voluntary agreement. you know that bos koe represents the 26 water

>> health commission meeting. we'll start by calling to order and i also have the opportunity to be the first to read the land acknowledgement. i think we first to the role call and go onto the acknowledgement. >> yes. (roll call). >> they have never seeded, lost, or forgotten their responsibilities as care takers for this place. as guests, we recognize that we benefit from living and working on their traditional home land. we wish to pay our respects by acknowledging the relatives of the community and affirming their rights as sovereign people. >> there's no public comment. >> i guess we should take a role call vote to approve the minutes. >> just checking to make sure there were no revisions to the amendments to the minutes. >> i'm sorry, i just have a question to the adjournments. is it correct to adjourn in honor or memory. i want to do it the correct way. i want to do that we're in memory honoring her. i don't know what is the correct phrase. >> i can go back and look at the tape and change it if it was memor

give me a break because two general managers on the commission. why are we going with this appointment? thank you very much. >> thank you, caller. there is one other caller in the queue. >> caller, go ahead. you have two minutes. >> can you hear me okay? >> yes, we can. >> caller: great. david pilpal again. and i wanted to call to i a tension on items 5b and e and in both cases the memos and information is fine. the people awe thorring the memos are all acting and i look forward to the day when we have fewer acting appointments and more permanent people in charge of the importance funk functions. that is all. thanks. >> thank you, caller. public comment on item five, communications, is closed. >> next item. item six is the bay area water supply agency update with member sandkulla. >> good afternoon. i wanted to talk about the bay area delta plan and the impact on the customers. and i urge you to protect the fish in the river with ere implementation of nonflow river proposed in the voluntary agreement. you know that bos koe represents the 26 water

anybody else on the commission? >> clerk: and i do have somebody on the public comment line with their hand up. >> president feinstein: okay. please. >> clerk: caller, if you'd like to make public comment on item 6. >> commissioners, i would like to make public comment on the previous agenda item. you didn't take public comment. >> clerk: i did call public comment, and there was none. >> you called for public comment on agenda item 5, right? >> clerk: no, i did call, and there was nobody on the public comment line. >> i put my hand up, and i was waiting for somebody to call me. could i make a comment on agenda number 5 or is it a big problem? >> president feinstein: yes, we're talking about 6 -- >> we're already on 6? >> no, no. what it shows on the screen is 6. [inaudible] >> okay. let's get to -- >> clerk: i'm going to start your timer. you have three minutes. >> thank you. commissioners, this land belongs to the muwekma ohlone, and the way you find that out is to go to the general management plan, and you'll see

jurisdiction of the commission except for agenda items.t to agenda items, your opportunity will be afforded when the item is reached. in the meeting each member of the public may address the commission for up to three minutes. members of the public you can press star 3 to be added to the queue and you will have two minutes to speak. we have one speaker. caller, it is your time to speak. you have three minutes. >> hi, it is bridgett maley regarding the golden gate valley library. the report which i submitted over a year ago and i just wanted to get an update on where it is in review at staff level or if staff has a recommendation to go forward. it is a reminder called in a couple times. i did notice recently that the one window broken at the front of the library has been fixed. happy to see that. anyway, i would appreciate an update when someone has a chance. thank you. >> last call for general public comments. we have one more. >> hello. i am calling in support of the project in the bayview-hunters point. [ inaudible ] >> it looks like the

related to the commission or amendment about these approvals. some background or history might be useful here. in a minute i'll say in december of 1987, down in the basement of city hall there was a hearing of this commission of power agreements of pg and e to wield power to the city and this was under threat who was a powerful member of congress at the time. there was a measure that ultimately became a new charter that required board of supervisor approval in excess of $10 million or ten years. it was a very difficult time dealing with hedge power an the politics around that. thanks. >> there are no other comments in the queue. >> public comment is closed. >> thank you. may i have a motion and second on this item, please. >> i'll move it. >> second. >> moved and seconded. roll call please. >> (roll call). >> next item, please. >> next item is item 15. green infrastructure grant guidelines. improving surface area and authorization the general manager to the existing grant agreement for the new grant agreement based on overages or change orders b

the commissions.on that motion... [roll call] >> so moved. that motion passes unanimously 6-0. placing as under your discretionary review calendar for item 15. this is a mandatory discretionary review. are you prepared to make a presentation? >> hi, i will be presenting. >> i apologize. i now remember that he made arrangements to have you present. the floor is yours. >> sure. [indiscernible] also known as active space. the planning commission previously reviewed and recommended approval of the legitimization programme of section 192 in 2019. the permit before the commission today proposes to legalize approximately 2,500 and 60s ground -- ground feet active use within this. the staff report incorrectly identified that there were 16 office suites requiring legitimization. [indiscernible] limited office use upon a limited approval. it will lose its nonconforming status after july 2022. it will be required to cease operations. these will be required to obtain new permits and meet the land-use requirements

commission. i am president maxwell. >> madam secretary please read roll call. >> president maxwell. >> here. >> vice president moran. >> here. >> commissioner paulson. >> here. >> commissioner harrington. >> here. >> commissioner ajami will join us while we are in progress. we have a quorum. >> due to covid-19 health emergency and given the public health recommendation issued by the san francisco department of public health and governor newsom and mayor breed looked at restriction on teleconference this is held via telecomvens and televised by sfgovtv. there is a brief time lag between the live meeting and what is viewed on sfgovtv. i would like to extend thanks to sfgovtv staff for assistance during the meeting. this is a special meeting. there will be no general public comment period. it will be only called for the item on the special meeting agenda by dialing 415-655-0001. id (146)255-0665-pound pound. raise your hand to speak, press star 3. limit comments to the topic discussed. the chair can

new policy analyst and commission secretary. this is a discussion item. >> chair: kerry, i can't tell you how excited we are to have you here. how long has it been, director, now? >> roughly since march. >> so a long time. that's a long time to be all by our lonesome. you went through, as i recall, a fairly exhaustive search process. congratulations on making it through. everyone was excited to have you. i wanted to invite you to speak about your background and your membership in the small business commission. we'll introduce ourselves as well, but i guess we'll start with you since you're the guest of the hour. >> okay. hi, everyone. thank you so much for the warm welcome. a little bit about me. before coming here, i was a legislative aid to berkeley city council member lori draftsy. there i drafted in support of the passage of many pieces of legislation including expanding outdoor commerce opportunities, the elimination of single-family zoning and the implementation of zero policies. i worked on food policies, advocating for f

the planning commission. [roll call] we do expect commissioner chan to be absent today. >> okay. i'll take roll for the recreation and park commission. [roll call] >> thank you. commissioners, we have quite the agenda today. to provide testimony on all items listed on your joint agenda. following the public hearing, the planning commission will consider the appeal of the negative declaration. if the planning commission upholds the preliminary negative declaration, the recreation and park commission will act jointly with the planning commission to consider raising the cumulative shadow limit for maritime. following action on those so please bear with me as i read all of these item noose the record. item one 2019-017481apl an appeal of the negative declaration. items 2a and 2b for case numbers 2019-017481shd discussion and possible joint action by the planning commission and recreation and park commission to raise a resolution to recommend -- to make a recommendation to the planning commission. following items

oversight largely of the commission business. chair man, the decision to hold open meetings can only be applauded if people know about it in advance so it gives enough time to prepare. a lot of advanced notice on that july meeting and that people couldn't prepare that. why did you do that and what do you plan on doing in the future so the public has sufficient time to prepare for the open meetings and can have public input because don't we want public input? >> absolutely and i'm so thrilled we've been able to switch to this format to provide more accountability and insight into the commission's work. as mentioned we have a history of doing all of this behind closed doors so as we adapt to the format we will be thinking through how came weak and continuously improve the processes and always appreciate feedback on that as well. thank you for that answer and it seems in contrast to what one of your other commissioners is saying. if i have time given the opportunity to speak. it says unfortunately, the format that the chair has chos

commission. i am president maxwell. >> madam secretary please read roll call. >> president maxwell. >> here. >> vice president moran. >> here. >> commissioner paulson. >> here. >> commissioner harrington. >> here. >> commissioner ajami will join us while we are in progress. we have a quorum. >> due to covid-19 health emergency and given the public health recommendation issued by the san francisco department of public health and governor newsom and mayor breed looked at restriction on teleconference this is held via telecomvens and televised by sfgovtv. there is a brief time lag between the live meeting and what is viewed on sfgovtv. i would like to extend thanks to sfgovtv staff for assistance during the meeting. this is a special meeting. there will be no general public comment period. it will be only called for the item on the special meeting agenda by dialing 415-655-0001. id (146)255-0665-pound pound. raise your hand to speak, press star 3. limit comments to the topic discussed. the chair can

the commissions.on that motion... [roll call] >> so moved. that motion passes unanimously 6-0. placing as under your discretionary review calendar for item 15. this is a mandatory discretionary review. are you prepared to make a presentation? >> hi, i will be presenting. >> i apologize. i now remember that he made arrangements to have you present. the floor is yours. >> sure. [indiscernible] also known as active space. the planning commission previously reviewed and recommended approval of the legitimization programme of section 192 in 2019. the permit before the commission today proposes to legalize approximately 2,500 and 60s ground -- ground feet active use within this. the staff report incorrectly identified that there were 16 office suites requiring legitimization. [indiscernible] limited office use upon a limited approval. it will lose its nonconforming status after july 2022. it will be required to cease operations. these will be required to obtain new permits and meet the land-use requirements

of the first commission.o if they would go forward they would not be successful they knew they were blue so they would rather drop the case then go ahead and lose. host: it still not over because june 5th 2019 autumn filed a new case against you to know how much you can talk about it that why did that happen? and where are you in that case? >> the attorney had the option to appeal to dismiss the case that rather than appeal that waited whatever the time period was, 90 days then filed a civil lawsuit. so now it's not the state and just this past march we were in court the judge is in his chambers in denver and i was in scottsdale we were put on the witness stand so we have that trial and the direct examination and now we are waiting for the judge to announce that decision. >> what is the timeline quick. >> it could be today or july we are just waiting. host: in the meantime are you still able to create custom cakes? >> we are. we just decided until it's fully resolved we will not create wedding cakes or annive

i took leave to put the commission together.pose of the commission was to advise the president about getting ready for the 200 fiftieth anniversary of the declaration of independence which is coming up. the first thing it asked for is a report on the principles of 1776 in light of that and what those mean. we took it as an opportunity, 20 commissioners, went about it in quick work to make a case. we didn't come up with any crazy new things. we made what would have been a mainstream argument that 1776 was the birthday of the country, the time at which people developing on the eastern seaboard were becoming a people and governing themselves and fled europe for their liberty, came together for a set of reasons that led to the writing of the constitution so that is factually crucial work. to the point of what that means especially that all men are created equal and our guide through that look at the founding if you will, dante would have a guide, our guide was abraham lincoln who pointed out and this gets back to the key of how to l

and my term on the commission has come to an end. and so today will be my final commission meeting. and, again, it has been an incredible honor and privilege to serve. i am eternally grateful. just a few reflections that i would like to share. one, thank you to president buell for his stellar leadership, both in terms of supporting and facilitating these meetings, but also helping to navigate all of the public interests that get expressed in and around our parks on all sides. so i appreciate commissioner buell, your leadership in that regard. i also want to thank our general manager, phil, for ensuring we have the best park district in the country. it continues to be phenomenal. and, in particular, the leadership around ensuring the department's commitment to centers equity and access in all of our communities and in all of our parks. it is just, and has been, stellar. a few things i'm most proud of -- i'm proud of all that we have done. but a few things i will lift up i'm most proud of: one, the center -- the creation, rather of equity zones, and a commitment to driving resources,

>> the same thing it was forcing me to the arm of the civil rights commission to create cakes that goinst my conscience we are asking the court of appeals to reverse that decision to allow me to obey my conscience. host: in the book you talk about there is a double standard because there is a denver-based bakery who did something almost identical to what you did. but theyou did not or were not persecuted in any way. can you tell us why that happened? >> there is a gentle man here in denver who went to three different bakeries asking them to create cakes shaped like the bible with a message of two men getting married and it was a message on the cake that homosexual marriage is wrong. he asked these bakeries to make that cake and they disagreed with the message so they declined so that is what we were doing. we were willing to serve the people. but we cannot create all cake so the civil rights commission so they're not r turning you away but the message and they have that right that i do not have that right. host: the bizarre doublee standard. and the commission said very hateful things

it was really based on the fact we had a recording of the same commission, the new commission saying they embrace the hostility of the first commission. and so if they were to go forward, they would not be successful parade they knew they would lose. they would rather drop the case then go ahead and lose it. >> but it is still not over. on june 5, 2019, autumn filed a new case against you. ind do not know how much you can talk about it, why did that happen? where are you in that case? >> the attorney had an option of appealing the commission's decision to dismiss the case. rather than that, waited whatever the time period was over 90 days and then filed a civil lawsuit against me. this is not the state suing me it's the attorney% this past march a few weeks ago, we were in court the judge was in his chambers and denver i was in the office there in scottsdale with alliance for freedom i wear put on the witness stand, my wife, my daughter, the help, and the attorney and a couple other people. we had that trial direct examination, cross examination, all of those things. we are now waiti

. >> also, talk about resources whether or not even if you want to, what capabilities does the commission have not having enough resources? >> it's a huge issue right now. right now we are facing a massive merger search, it is stretching capacity to the limit and the rubber band is snapping at the same time to prosecute certain cases we have to go up against finance dependents who can claim section 230 immunity with impunity. the user for almost every single thing when it comes to platform related conduct. this is abuse and congress needs to fix it because it's an impediment protecting consumers and small businesses on. >> we've had bipartisan discussions about 230 and one of the bills introduced also will begin to address this, i'm wondering if other commissioners, are you still here, by the way, what want to comment, what can and should the commission be doing to protect consumers more efficiently? >> i am happy to jump into and thank you for the question. calling attention to the problems is has imposed, i am especially worried about the areas where it's provide illegal conduct in the

to put this commission together and the purpose of the commission at large is to prepare the nation andng ready for the two d50 is the anniversary of independence which is coming up in the first thing you asked for is a report about the status of the principles of 1776 in light of that and what those mean, we took as an opportunity we had 20 commissioners and one about it in a quick work to try to make the case and invent new ideas and crazy new things we made a brief matter of time ago, verym mainstream argument was 1775th was the birthday of the country the time of which o these people are developing on the eastern seaboard and becoming a people that would govern themselves and fled europe for their liberty and came together to declare their independence for ce for a set of reasons reasons thd to the writing of the constitution so that so what those principles mean especially that all men are created equal, a look at the boundary, if you will, our guide was abraham lincoln who pointed out and i think this was to get back to our key how to look at history, what drives history are not l

truly based on the fact win a recording of the same commission's new commission saying that they embracerst commission. on so that were to go forward, they would not be successful, they knew they would lose and so they would rather complicated than go ahead. summa penicillin over because on june 2019, autumn filed a new case against you. and i don't how much you can talk about it but why did that happen in where are you in the case predict. >> so this attorney has an option of this decision but rather than to do that, they waited this time period was, 90 days or so and then file a civil lawsuit against me so now this is the state this attorney personally but this past march, we were in court and it was like this the judge in his chambers in denver and and i was in scottsdale. and so we were put in the witness stand, my wife my daughter myself and the attorneys gardena and a couple of other people so we had that trial and cross-examination and all of those things and then we are now waiting for the judge to announce the decision. >> and as soon will you know that decision. it. >> there's

members of the public may address the commission on matters that within the commission jurisdiction and not on today's agenda. give me one second. i'll put the instructions for making a public comment back on the screen for anyone like to call in. please remember to press star 3 in order to be added to the virtual queue and you will have three minutes to make your comments. it doesn't look like we have any callers in the queue but we'll take another brief pause. >> v.p. ahn: next is the environmental service award and if you want to read it for us. >> clerk: sure. so, it's a presentation of the commission on the environment and environmental service award to jill and this item is for discussion. >> v.p. ahn: at this point, commissioner wald, if you wouldn't mind introducing the item. >> thank you, commissioner ahn and good evening, everyone. i'm honored to present this environmental service award to joe lacatta who has spent over 30 years leading innovation in the hospitality industry at hilton san francisco. joe exemplifies and the idea that we can have a healthy environment and a grea

you'll see a number of touch points with the commission. the project in general and coming back with a second configuration to discuss what is the preferred condition during the build phase and what is the detailed design that was put through earlier. that's just a brief summarization and some more detail to hopefully come back to you. >> thanks. a few of the aspects of the project that support businesses and safety. at the ferry building we've been working closely to make sure this new design is supporting the farmers market that operates three days a week. adding space at the new ferry plaza here circled in red. we're appreciative of the fact that they are able to support change. early morning in the market load in and out. as implementation proceeds, we'll be joined by volunteers to press upon folks how the changes will occur during market hours. which is really the most intense of the day. how this loading operation is working here. it will inform nimble adjustment as needed to ensure everything is operating as smooth as possible. we're

the commission, appointed by the governor, they have probable cause. >> how did that case end? did that case end? >> guest: two years ago in march we were ready to go into the deposition and as we sat at the conference table and court reporters and videographers ready to take down every word and tried to destroy me in the next 6 hours they said we have to have a meeting. .. the meeting was to say this is the vehicle we want to use, we are willing to dismiss the charges and had a lawsuit against them also in federal court. it was based on the fact we had a recording of the same commission saying they embraced the hostility so if they were to go forward it wouldn't be >> and go ahead. >> yes, but it's still not over because on june 5th, 2019 autumn sardini filed a new case against you. why did that happen? and where are you in that case? this attorney had a decision to appeal the case or wait over the time period over 90 days and then file a civil lawsuit against me and now it's not the state suing me, it's an attorney suing me personally and just this past march a few weeks ago