initially, commissionan campaign saw an opening to engage cnn in a debate that meets their needs. that may or may not continue insii see the need for independent arbiter of our debates to organize. for example, if the candidates are working with the there journalists will set the agenda, will control, will ask the questions. that network will set some of the rules for the rest of the broadcast network. and so i think in that process there debates that are available to the wider all in a manner that is possible. so i do see a need for an independent group that would organize and host debates. mitchell mckinney serves as the dean at the university of akron here to talk about their history presidential debates. >> c-span's washington journal ng issues in government, politics and public policy from d.c. to across the country. thursday california about the israel hamas conflict and other then we will continue the conversation with indirepublican congress woman talking about legislation on artificial intelligence. join live at 7:00 eastern on c-span now or c-span.org. member 2ifies sts

the clerk: nomination, nuclear regulatory commissionan to be a member. mr. durbin: madam president. in washington. i used to come int building and sit up there where the visitors are sitting and watch. i remember so many things particularly the day that bobby kennedy gave his speech about vietnam, highly anticipated, came walking through the door ted kennedy, both york the other from massachusetts. it was an historic moment. it was a magic moment for a college student. it was overwhelming to be a witness to that history, to realize what this chamber has met to this nation what this building has meant to this nation throughout our history, that's why i'll never forget what happened in this chamber on january 6, 2021. violent extremists stormed the capitol to prevent certification of the 2020 presidential election. donald trump was engaged in the big lie, for the first time really in the history of the united states he questioned the legal outcomef the election. madam president, you and i both know that is fundamental to a democracy to believe that we can have a peaceful transition of