departments on things that we can do to improve the processes for businesses and so i want to thank commissioner o'brien for or articulating how it can be done. >> commissioner dwight, i represented the commission on august 27, tuesday on the their small business advisory committee meeting, and we had conversation with the formula retail and the conversation about the street scraping and the effects on business and i just explained to them the role here to be an advocate for the small business and sometimes we have to do smings that we will make recommendations sometimes, that may not seem and to deal with it at the legislative level and i was among friends so it was an easy meeting. >> >> and great, we are going to talk about, talk about the subcommittee meetings later on and i mean next time? >> good. >> okay. >> and any other commissioner comments? >> and next item, please? >> item number 12, general public comment? >> do we have any members of the public who would like to make the comments and any future small business commissioner meetings? >> seeing none, public comment is now closed. >> next item

. >> commissioner o'brien? >> yeah, i just one quick announcement and it must be a work in progress for quite some time and if you are picking up a permit, for construction, related work, and whether it is small or big, or even if it is putting in a new office or a restaurant or whatever, and one of the components is the san francisco unified school district tax. and heretofore when you were going to the last desk at dbi and paid, for your permit fee, and you didn't know the system, and you have to take off to the unified school district on vannesss and go in there for the cashier's check for the appropriate amount of money and get a receipt and run all the way back to dbi and pick up a permit and that was a gripe for a lot of people for a long time that is inefficient and so i think that it is going to be effective. september third and you will not be able to pay the tax at the same time that you are paying your permit fees. >>, and we work in small steps and that it. >> great, thank you. >> director? >> well,

. >> commissioner dwight. >> aye. >> o'brien. >> yes. >> yee riley. >> aye. >> white. >> aye. >> the motion carries with five votes to 0. >> great, thank you. >> and that is good that you do this clean up stuff, this is like, this is the kind of stuff that we need to see more of. so good job. >> it makes more sense. >> thank you. >> the tip of the iceberg. >> next we have item 8 director's report and this is a discussion item. >> good evening, commissioners, the one i want to congratulate christian murdock on his one year anniversary with the office of small business last week and he celebrated his one year anniversary with us. on june 24th, you received a presentation from the healthy mother's workplace coalition and they sent out a solicitation, for businesses to be awarded for the workplace practices and so this morning was their award ceremony and i just, i provided a list of businesses from by right to linked in, to several law firms. and next deck, and marketing, square, and and anyone who received the awards for the practices and the role that the office has played in the heal

so that is my two cents and commissioner o'brien? >> yeah, it is a very complicated affair, i sat a couple of other commissioners here. for four or five hours, listening to the pet food express application, and i personally, agreed with the recommendation of the planning department but i was very struck by the fact that it was truly turned down by almost a majority or a unanimous vote, not quite. but it was a powerful vote six to one against the application and it was interesting for a lot of different reasons, because there is a lot of unfortunate nature calling and malining good people, and the pet food express has definitely run by people who are neighborhood oriented, and they are good people. and that the programs that they run, which they, you know, evangalized in a big way as part of the application, they were sincere and they don't do animal care and extracurricular activities for the pure hard business sense they do it because they do it because in their heart it is the right thing to do. but i think that it is going to be co

commissioner adams, here, dwight, here, o'brien, cartagena, riley, here. commissioner white? white is on her way and dooley has an excused absence. >> thank you, mr. president. item no. 2, public comment. anyone wish to make a comment on items that are not on the agenda? >> seeing none, public comment is close. >> item no. 3, approval of the september 9, 2013, meeting minutes. >> second to approve. >> all in favor say, "aye".? >> aye. >> next item. no. 4. discussion and possible action to make recommendation to the board of supervisors on board of supervisors file 130781. we expected a presentation by earthquake and safety. this is a discussion and possible action item. but we would like to continue this to a future meeting. >> we have a motion to continue this to a future meeting. >> so moved. >> second. >> all in favor say, "aye". >> aye. >> do we have any public comment on item no. 4 before we make that motion? seeing none, public comment is closed. now do we have a motion? >> second again. >> all in favor say, "aye". >> aye. >> thank you. that will take us to item no. 5,

commissioner o'brien. >> yeah, i will start by reit rating by what the president said. excellent information and the volume of data it's an investigate presentation. i would like to ask, could you send us a copy of that? chris, if you can follow-up with that. and secondly, a couple of questions, one is not exactly related to it but very relevant. i remember a tax credit is much more powerful than a tax deductible expense. other than to calculate what your total bill is, a credit simply is subtracted immediately out of the amount due to the irs where a deduction is not, it just lowering the gi in the first place. this is most definitely a tax credit? >> it is a tax credit especially on the individuals side. as you apply you state what your estimated income is going to be and that puts us in the bucket and say this is what the plans are for and it gives you an event premium tax credit. if you are in a situation where you can qualify for cautionary reduction it will tell you that you can qualify with a lower plan tax care. you can choose to apply your tax credit to that pl

. >> commissioner, o'brien. >> we talk about comparing to cities, in talks of the conversation, we department of -- do have an act of mobile retail with a permitting process where you can go to apply for a permit and park in certain locations. some of these have already taken up. i want to get the context right that we are talking about a proposal that is not even born yet but something that is a work in progress right now. i'm correct in that statement, despite >> -- right? >> i think you are referring to the mobile food program? >> yes. similar to that but there are a lot of parallels between the two, right? >> they look very similar, but the mobile food operators traditionally have wanted to operate in one location for an extended period of time, many hours a day for years at a time. we haven't received that time request or interest from mobile retail and operators. they are looking to come periodically based on the season or particular line of goods that they have and said -- set up in an area for a short period based on that concept and low level of activity in that neighborhood. the con

>> commissioner o'brien. >> i will make a comment after public comment. >> one question that i had if there is an international business that did not have any physical presence say in the bay area or not even in the country, or wanted to set up a branch here, but and say in europe they were, you know, the branches throughout europe way more than 11, would they be automatically, bared under that 11 rule under this proposal to change it to include international? >> under the current definition, and international company, with fewer than eleven other retail outlets in san francisco, would not be considered formula retail, and there is pending legislation that would impact the goff area and that would, in that district, it would take into account whether the number of international stores in existence. and that has not yet... >> let me try to rephrase that. i think what i understand and i think that you meant to say, is, if an international company, now has more than 11 stores, anywhere in the world, but in america, they are not subject to the control, because they are not eleven stores i

>> aye. >> commissioner dwight. >> aye. >> o'brien. >> aye. >> riley. >> aye. >> white. >> aye. >> the item passes 5-0. >> good job and thank you very much for coming tonight. >> and welcome as a supervisor and this is the first time that you have presented as a supervisor and that is an a and so congratulations. >> i want to thank dph and sfpd for being here as well to support you on this, thanks. >> and mr. president, i move us on to item seven, discussion and possible action to make recommendations to the board of supervisors on board of supervisors file number 1 30784, business and tax regulations code and administrative changes. and we have greg from the treasurer and tax collector here to present. >> welcome. >> good evening, commissioners my name is greg gatto from the office of the treasurer and tax collector. i will briefly go over the long piece of legislation that is our annual going through the article six in particular of the code and making those changes that are required and are to help us stream line the tax enforcement. and this year, it is quite important, actually, b

commissioner adams. here. >> dwight. >> here. >> o'brien. >> riley. >> here. >> white. >> here. >> ortiz-cartagena is excused as well as ortiz and cartagena. >> and approval of the may, 6th 2, 013. item two, general public comment, do we have any members of the public that would like to make me comments on items pertinent to this commission that is not on today's agenda. >> seeing none closed. >> approval of the may 6, 2013 meeting minutes, this is an action item. >> move to approve. >> second. >> all in favor? >> aye. >> aye. >> next item. >> item number 4, approval of the july 22, 2013 meeting minutes. >> move to approve. >> second. >> all in favor? >> aye. >> item number five, approval of the august 12, 2013 meeting minutes, action item. >> approve. >> second. >> all in favor? >> aye. >> item 6, discussion and possible action to make recommendations to the board of supervisors on board of supervisors file number 1 30789, health code, licensing and regulation of massage establishment and practitioners. and mr. president, we are fortunate enough to have supervisor tang here this evening. >> welcome supervis

commissioner adams, here, dwight, here, o'brien, cartagena, riley, here. commissioner white? white is on her way and dooley has an excused absence. >> thank you, mr. president. item no.

commissioner adams. here. >> dwight. >> here. >> o'brien. >> riley. >> here. >> white. >> here. >> ortiz-cartagena is excused as well as ortiz and cartagena. >> and approval of the may, 6th 2, 013.

commissioner adams. here. >> dwight. >> here. >> o'brien. >> riley. >> here. >> white. >> here. >> ortiz-cartagena is excused as well as ortiz and cartagena. >> and approval of the may, 6th 2, 013. item two, general public comment, do we have any members of the public that would like to make me comments on items pertinent to this commission that is not on today's agenda. >> seeing none closed. >> approval of the may 6, 2013 meeting minutes, this is an action item.