we may not have a rules committee. i am happy to have it at committee as a whole. i suggest that we get our questions and concerns to staff in advance. they have spent many, many hours on this already. >> does everybody have their redline and board copy? your responsibility is to search through this just as you did tonight. you have to get questions on this so that we can have a full, clear discussion. it can be one of our first committee as a whole meetings. this could be our first committee as a whole meetings we have in the next year. thank you for all of your effort on this and for moving this forward. and what you're hearing from us is a clear commitment to move this forward. >> i do not know if this item -- i am questioning the first item for the committee as a whole. we did postpone a very important discussion last week. was it two weeks ago? that is exactly what the supervisor brought up about how important that was. i wanted to suggest that perhaps it is our second meeting. >> i think you enter staff and the leadership will have to go through and make some

what are the lessons from the super committee? should i have another super committee? should i not?m quite a political fall as a political scientist to try? -- and my political full as a political scientist to try?" >> the first thing i would say is in fact to move much closer to operational lysing legislative language some amalgam of the best ideas of simpson- bowles, rinlen- domenici -- i would want to have something ready to go, and i would want to have something ready to go and propose another process. something like the super committee to make it happen. i would remind you that we actually had that when the president created the sense in bowls commission, he did not do it on his own. it was done because congress had a fast track commission process that they had put out there. it came up for a vote in the senate, again reflecting the tribal politics, seven original co-sponsors of the congressionally created committee voted against their own plan because they did not want to give the president what looked like a political victory. that would have been much more effective. then a

, the ethics committee could. i think the ethics rules are not clear enough and the house ethics committee issued guidance two days ago. i think it is imperative to make it crystal clear and lay it out. the other problem is the ethics committees are very soft on members of congress. is somebody will only get a mild reprimand or a letter of admonition, that does not heard very much. if you included some think the specific, which you could, like a financial penalty at a significant amount, that would be a disincentive. >> you would make it clear in our roles that insider-trading is a violation of the roles? is it as simple as that? >> yes, and there are certain penalties them understood. >> understood. what do you think of this idea? >> i think there are roles that address this. the big problem in the senate and house with respect to use of paragraph 8 of the code of ethics of government services is that there just isn't across the board from committee to committee and office to office specific obligations and rules

not reference augmented committees. what do we do when members do not vote? if you are a member of the committee, but you are not attending. is that clear enough? that is the question that i wanted to ask. >> this is about the location of the meeting. the augmented committees are covered under the committee's action, which does specified that the parliament and members are not voting members, but they may participate in the discussion. does that address your question? >> do we need the part that says that provided that the board members who are not members of attend as observers? it does not have anything to do with location. >> it discusses what constitutes a majority. board members who are attending the meeting are not for the purposes of that meeting contributing to the majority. >> can we not say that? if we put in the party apart only being reserve risk -- observers, can we say that they cannot constitute a majority? >> commissioner norton, i want to apologize. i was looking at a different section. i was on the wro

i understand the committee will move items five, six, seven, and eight forward to the board as a committee report. we can do that without opposition. number nine did not end up getting introduced. i suppose technically it is not before you, so there is not -- i thought maybe continuing at but there is not an action for you to take because it is not before you. we will be moving items 5 through 8 as a committee report to the full board. thank you. are there any other announcements? >> you need a motion during -- regarding disclosure. supervisor kim: we can do that without opposition. are there any other announcements? >> no. supervisor kim: seeing none, meeting is now adjourned. >> i came out to san francisco about seven years ago. i was trained as a carpenter. i got sick of the cold weather and the hot weather. i wanted to pursue art. i thought i really be here for about three years. here i am, 7 years later. ♪ i have problems sleepwalking at night. i wanted to create a show about sleep. a mostly due painting kind of story telling. these are isolated subject matters, smaller studies for th

. >> representing the filipino american book festival of the committee chair and the committee for the event. [applause] >> thank you very much. [applause] >> filipinos love a great party. in northern california, one organization proves this year in and year out by celebrating our heritage and culture. this year, it broke records, making it the largest festival in the region. ladies gentlemen, the filipino american art exposition. >> [inaudible] and the best of philippine cuisine with more than 100,000 filipino americans living in the bay area alone, it is no surprise that the largest philippine a festival in northern california takes place right here in san francisco. the celebration features dance, art, and a cut off so that visitors can taste, hear, smell, and see filipino culture up close. this year, a tucson record- breaking attendance with over 70,000 patrons and spectators of the festival, making it our signature community tradition. the san francisco bay area filipino community salutes the legacy of celebrating filipino culture and heritage. >> representing the filipino america

member of the committee, spoke at length in rules committee on this specific issue. they were asked about the issue, they addressed the issue. let me make this very clear. everything in this law that deals with retire yeses does not change in any way, shape, or form, existing law. it does not deny anyone habeas corpus opportunity. that is not waived in any way, shape, or form. let me quote from mr. smith, the ranking democrat on the committee, when he said, when talking about different things, he simply said that there is possibility of attention without a norm -- detention without a normal criminal charge but even if you do that, which once again the president said he won't do, but even if you did that in certain isolated circumstances where it could be necessary under the law of war, even if you do that, habeas corpus still applies, which means you have to have a hearing in front of a federal judge to make your case under the law for why you have the right to detain this person. and to do that, you have to show there is a connection to al qaeda and the taliban and

that same month, all eight republican members of the committee wrote to senate foreign reels committee chairman john kerry stating that committee members had not received requested information needed to fully vet the nominee. let me remind everyone, we never received that information. ms. aponte was recess appointed by the obama administration later this summer. we have continued our efforts to work with the administration to get access to this information. chairman kerry was able to convince the white house to allow me to see a summary of the diplomatic security background investigation. however, that summary did not address the fundamental questions that have arisen, and that summary left me with more questions than answers. so committee republicans wrote another letter to chairman kerry about our concerns last month. in the letter we said, and i quote, "we recognize the need to balance highly sensitive materials during the confirmation process. however, we believe that in this particular case, the scope of the background review was not appropriately complete." we went on to say, and

i understand the committee will move items five, six, seven, and eight forward to the board as a committee report. we can do that without opposition. number nine did not end up getting introduced. i suppose technically it is not before you, so there is not -- i thought maybe continuing at but there is not an action for you to take because it is not before you. we will be moving items 5 through 8 as a committee report to the full board. thank you. are there any other announcements? >> you need a motion during -- regarding disclosure. supervisor kim: we can do that without opposition. are there any other announcements? >> no. supervisor kim: seeing none, meeting is now adjourned. >> when there is this a children's theater, it is a good theater. it is a good theater, you would like it, even if it is for children. that is what i think. i feel like it is both a story for kids and for much older people. it is both about being a young child and letting a toy or a friend, and it is also about what it means to get old. ♪ >> in 1986, my son was two, and i decided i would like to go over the story of

i was going to send it back to committee. i do agree that we owe it to supervisor mirkarimi to vote up or down. i'm happy to vote on this position. >> any further discussion. >> on item 23 -- >> aye. >> aye. >> aye. >> no. >> no. >> aye. >> no. >> no. >> aye. >> no. >> no. >> there are five ayes and 6 no's,. this ordinance fails. >> ordnance approving a contract between the city and the west and renewable energy generation system for environmental attributes. on item 24 -- >> aye. >> aye. >> aye. >> aye. >> aye. >> aye. >> aye. >> aye. >> aye. >> aye. >> aye. >> there are 11 ayes. >> item 25. >> resolution placing funds intended forward defense of special circumstances cases on control reserve and adopting guidelines for release of such funds. same house, same call? this resolution is adopted. item 26. >> resolution authorizing the lease with a six street baldwin house for the police department. >> this item did come to committee. one piece of like to share with colleagues. the redevelopment agency, there is still some work t

i also want to acknowledge cristina and jen for supporting the committee. the staff played an integral role. in terms of the request of commissioner wynns about the makeup of the bcc, i would suggest you get in touch with the parent advisory council. they do a superb analysis about how the demographics of the council match or do not match the suited demographics of sfusd. he always provides graphs, how many kids are from the different schools, how the racial ethnicities are reflected. that is a good model. secondly, i want to echo commissioner fewer. coons on your english guide. it is very valuable. i want to read one of the most valuable sections. free translation and interpretation services -- it is very important for parents, families who are listening or watching tv to know that all of the families are entitled to requesting individual translation or interpretation. there is a form that is available to schools and on the sfusd web site to make that request. it does come to the central office. they can also make compliance with the school site cannot pro

i understand the committee will move items five, six, seven, and eight forward to the board as a committee report. we can do that without opposition. number nine did not end up getting introduced. i suppose technically it is not before you, so there is not -- i thought maybe continuing at but there is not an action for you to take because it is not before you. we will be moving items 5 through 8 as a committee report to the full board. thank you. are there any other announcements? >> you need a motion during -- regarding disclosure. supervisor kim: we can do that without opposition. are there any other announcements? >> no. supervisor kim: seeing none, meeting is now adjourned. >> here we are at the embarcadero. we are standing at one of locations for the street artists. can you tell me about this particular location, the program? >> this location is very significant. this was the very first and only location granted by the board of supervisors for the street artist when the program began in 1972. how does a person become a street artist? there are two major tenants. you must make the work

president, members of the committee. prior to my years of experience with national issues, this was also as a 25-year member of the planning department and a five- year member of the planning group, so i have had considerable background there, and i currently keep my hand in as a quote interested citizen on the northeast waterfront advisory group, and as such, i have had the opportunity to participate in the planning of east of the embarcadero steady and many presentations and many comments pro and con of this project -- the embarcadero study. one thing i would like to say, i think that the members in this room are probably very concerned about the testimony they heard about the golden gate towers and how it has been finding ways to avoid paying higher taxes on the property and to get around the city rent control board, and i would hope that the city would find this legislation in this regard. also, having said that, as was indicated, the golden gateway owner is not the developer for this project. the developer for this

he is vice chair of the policy committee.in the texas house and served as the texas secretary of state. a u.s. customs broker specializing in import-export work. he has more degrees than any other member of congress, five advanced degrees. he has a b.s. from georgetown, mba from texas a&m. what did you do with all those degrees? guest: my father and mother went only to a sixth-grade education. they used to say we didn't get the education because they put us out in the field to work. host: so you proved them. next up is cliff from texas. caller: good morning. a couple of comments. this corzine issue needs to be looked into. it is part and parcel of left or right on the political spectrum of what all of us are so upset about. i find it ironic when if you start talking about commingling funds and president lyndon johnson started taking funds out of what was supposed to be a secure social security fund and this is our federal government, and putting it into the operating funds or whenever areas of government that never should hav

i wear several hats, one of which is i'm on the committee for the marijuana oversight committee. i would like to speak to you as chair of black and brown canada's policy. on behalf of my candidate. he has worked with me on several issues and he is a variable valuable asset. i also feel that i can probably save you time if i to ask my colleagues that could stand or these raise their hand if they are in favor of marquis taking the ad is easy to -- advocacy seat. the other members that applying for positions are very good candidates for their spot and i recommend them highly. thank you. >> thank you very much. [applause] >> good afternoon, supervisors. i am in support of my co-founder and co-chair, mr. ausby. we both joined the organization and as far as part of the activities. i have gone to three meetings. gosh his commitment to patients. and i am also looking forward to -- not the way i can be part of that. and along with the rest of the patient advocates of the committee. >> by name is michael goldman, i have had the privilege to serve for the last year. they have been very acti

for the house intelligence committee. it will be the 29th bill in our committee's history. this bill is a vital tool for congressional oversight of the intelligence community's classified activities and is crittal to ensuring our intelligence agencies have the resources and authorities they need to do their important work. passing an annual intelligence authorization bill is vital to keeping the laws governing our intelligence operations up to date. the fiscal year 2012 bill sustains our current intelligence capabilities and provides for the development of future capabilities all while achieving significant savings. the u.s. intelligence community plays a critical role in the war on terrorism. in securing the country from many threats we face today. effective and aggressive congressional oversight is essential to ensuring continued success in the intelligence community. the intelligence authorization bill funds u.s. intelligence activities, spanning 17 separate agencies. this funding totaled roughly $80 billion in fiscal year 2012. -- 2010. the current challenging fiscal en

>> as i've testified to this committee in the past and i've written to this committee in some detail on this matter is this the only substantive meeting that i recall ochered on the tenth of june that is the case it was mr. crone and mr. mylar and it was to discuss the case, but it was in order to for them to receive the authority to increase the settlement offer that the hell ready-made. >> that seems to be what is in the documents provided to you. >> did you accept the conversation on the tenth of june, 2008 states that presumably you said he wants to think through the options? >> i've seen that and i don't recall -- i recall reading that meeting with a clear understanding that they would increase their offer. whether or not there were some time to address on it for a minute i don't recall that conversation. >> do you accept that crone and mylar had this since they left the company's employment? >> it's my understanding that the default. >> do you expect that crone stated in the letters to the number 2011 he believes you have knowledge of the widespread criminal to be identified by

committee -- while a prosecutor would not be able to easily obtain it, the ethics committee could review the material. that is why it would be so significant to make sure the ethics committee does have jurisdiction. the ethics rules are not clear enough. the ethics committee two days ago issued guidance. it is imperative to make it crystal clear and lay it out. the other problem we have seen is that the committees are soft on members of congress. if someone will only get a mild reprimand or a letter of admonition, it does not hurt much. there is not a lot of disincentive. if you include some sort of financial penalty of a significant amount, that would be a disincentive. >> you would make it clear in our rules that insider-trading is a violation of the rules. this is as simple as that? >> yes. that there are certain penalties and rules. >> what do you think of this idea? >> i do think there are rules to address this. a big problem in the senate and house with paragraph 8 is that there are not specific obligations, rules, and policies regarding what information is confidential. getting it

another aspect is the committee's don't have audit functions.they don't go from office to office to investigate what people are doing that happened otherwise been reported either to the more through a complaint or through the media, and so it is not a matter of complaints and allegations coming before the committees that they are not paying attention to. >> i have one more question. some scholars have suggested clearly the finding from the members of congress would be an easy solution that could be done through the senate resolution. do you agree with that, both of you? >> i think passing a statute along the lines you suggested with possible tweaks in the language would be an effective solution. >> a senate resolution though? >> no, no, no. document legislation. >> that was like a motherhood salute i don't think it accomplishes that much. >> i agree. >> it takes you one step forward but only one step. >> i appreciate all your testimony. mr. chairman i appreciate you and the ranking member bringing this forward. i and my staff will make ourselves

suitable committee to look at those issues. i support those changes as well. do not know enough about wholesale establishments. i would imagine, in jackson square, there are a lot of those establishments. i need to understand exactly what kind of businesses that covers to understand whether or not that would even make sense, but i would support the department's recommendations in that phase. i want to thank the supervisors for continuing this. it is a large piece of legislation, and the next time we have a presentation -- i think you did a great job trying to bring out the new recommendations -- but going for each aspect -- we did not talk about awnings today, even though it has come up from members of the public. we did not talk as not talksignage, other than the waterfront. maybe the supervisor wants to look at how we can better partition portions of this legislation that are related to reach out to workshops in the community. i think you will have to take each section apart, maybe have independent meetings. there are differe

i understand the committee will move items five, six, seven, and eight forward to the board as a committee report. we can do that without opposition. number nine did not end up getting introduced. i suppose technically it is not before you, so there is not -- i thought maybe continuing at but there is not an action for you to take because it is not before you. we will be moving items 5 through 8 as a committee report to the full board. thank you. are there any other announcements? >> you need a motion during -- regarding disclosure. supervisor kim: we can do that without opposition. are there any other announcements? >> no. supervisor kim: seeing none, meeting is now adjourned. >> i think it ae's public and private property. i'm against graffiti. >> who can get it out the most who n be noticed the most. >> i i've seen seniors doing graffiti. >> the city is art, other people who have their names tag -- >> [inaudible] our unit there are 2 sections we are doing one is abating and others are notice of violation to private property. all the utility boxes in public right-of-way we abate. >> we a

i want to thank the chair of our awards committee, and the co- chair of our words committee, and all the volunteers helping out this year. thank you very much. [applause] for many of you that have been with us for a one-year, two years, three years, up to seven years, you know that there is always a celebration -- there's somebody always at these celebrations. we are really fortunate that every year, former mayor brown has always taken time out of his schedule to be with us. he has been such a part of our asian pacific american community, and thank you. [applause] >> let me simply congratulate the committee and the people who sponsored this. started seven years ago, as indicated by claudine. for me, it is one of the most events every year. in pencil it out just as it is my birthday. i am here to celebrate with you, and i congratulate all of the honorees and awardees on this very special occasion. happy asia-pacific american week. thank you. [applause] >> and i heard the supervisor kim has joined us. thank you for being here. >> i look at david and jan and i would not be here if it we

an award committee meeting. this is a meeting of all department captains and command staff. they get together to review the nominations. the nominating commanding officer presents the nomination. the nominated officers are present to answer any questions the committee may have. by secret ballot, the awards committee votes on whether to approve the medal of valor and what grade. the chief of police boards approved the nominations to the police commissioner for final approval. you can see it is a lengthy process. these awards are taken very seriously. to give a few words also this evening, we will have the commission president speak. >> ladies and gentlemen, i really want to thank you for being here tonight to honor these officers. every police officer that enters the department enters with the goal of serving the community and helping others. these officers are getting medals of valor. valor means something extraordinary. they risk their lives for somebody they do not even know. those are very special people you

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we look forward to the next committee hearing, to hear from the advocates. we have seen clear guidance from the fta and the administrator. this is a big area of emphasis. i want to thank you for that. supervisor mirkarimi: thank you. any other public comment? step right up if anybody disasters. all right, public comment is closed. this is an informational item. we will look forward to the continuing conversations in the plans and programs committee. we like what has been started. madam clerk, is there any other additional items? >> item 12, adjournment. supervisor mirkarimi: all right, are we good? happy thanksgiving, everybody. meeting is adjourned. patty: filing for social security online, 9 out of 10 experts agree, it's groovier than a brooklyn hot dog! cathy: or a crepe suzette! ♪ when cousins are two of a kind! ♪