but ththey're comompletely independent and i'm transparent about that. >> can you see from the publicoint of view, it t is familyy members, thinking, issue really not involved? do you really not get on the phone and d say, what is going ? do you have no involvement whatsoever? >> i take a legal document very seriously. amy: the ap says sales of ivanka trump's merchahandise have s sud since her father was elelected presidenent. to talk more about this, we're joined by vicky ward, new york times best-selling author, investigative journalist, contributor to esquire and the huffington post's highline magazine. vicky ward, welcome to democracy now! let's go back to this moment that became very famous, the president of china, the president of the united states seated at the dinner at mar-a-lago. next to them, jared kushner and ivanka trump. that same day, she got three exclusive trademarks from china to sell her merchandise? >> right. well, i mean, it speaks for itself. i wish i could tell you i was surprised. but i am really not. i am doing a lot of reporting, spending half of my time in d