i think his comedy is broader than conan's ever was. he will be more successful in "the tonight show." >> the reason nbc can't or powerful incentive dumping jay leno right now as in tomorrow is that he gets a truck load of money, according to his contract, if he is forced to leave before his contract expires in the fall of 2014. is that correct? >> that's right, that's right. i mean, that all grew out of the debacle last time. so, you know, his representatives were -- >> i'm sorry, nbc had to pay conan $45 million when -- >> that's a pretty good going rate for good giving up "tonight show." one reason nbc was dumping leno because he made jokes about president obama and less openly liberal than david letterman. anything to the political overtones in this? >> politics in network television? i can't imagine. >> it's a ridiculous argument. but the mothership, particularly at late night because leno did a couple more jokes at the expense of the president isn't going to give them reason to get rid of their number one guy in the time slot. >>

who is sir arthur conan doyle? trebek: we were looking for, "who is sir arthur conan doyle?" thanks. [telephone rings] hello. oh, hi, katie. i heard what happened at the junior high. they can't bump you like that. that is so unprofessional. oh, relax, katie. it's not a problem. what is borax? trebek: yes, you are right. they bump you in junior high the next thing you know you're being bumped in high schools, colleges trade schools... before you know it letterman's not returning your calls. you got an ashtray? no, i don't have any ashtrays. ooh, cereal bowls. katie: jerry, now, don't freak out. i'll take care of it. all right, thanks. what is tungsten or wolfram? we were looking for, "what is tungsten... or wolfram?" is this a repeat? no, no, no. just lately i've been thinking a lot clearer. like this afternoon-- what is chicken kiev?-- i really enjoyed watching a documentary with louise. louise. that's what's doing it. you're no longer preoccupied with sex so your mind is able to focus. ya think? yeah. i mean let's say this is your brain, ok? now, from what i know about you y

who is conan? conan the barbarian. yes. fantasy for $800. rob. what is compass? corr let's do high fantasy for $1,000. ect. what is compass? corr rob. what is a castle? castle. right you are. let's go to tv show settings for $200, please.

and even though conan quickly pointed out your unforced error, your ewoks at the white house tweeted this, giving jedi mind meld its own welcome back site. how can you mix oil and water like this, all great, but not great together. here's the thing, we know you're not the first to make a pop culture pit fall. there was this. >> i got a bum knee. the lasso again, then the horse back. horse, horse. ride the cowboys, ride the cowboys. >> and there was this. >> who let the dogs out? thanks, guys. >> it happens. but this was an aracus sized accident, and the truth is it's probably this man's fault. this is jj abrams, one of the best director/producers out there. he did the unthinkable. he agreed to direct the new star wars. that started a revolt, a mutiny. listen to me. i certainly did not write this. will surratt is obsessed with star wars, star trek, and all things between. i had to practice it quite a few times because pop culture references aren't my forte, either. have a good weekend. anderson cooper 360 starts right now. >> erin, thanks. good evening, everyone. tonight, killer roman

it was dicey when you had the situation with conan. likely if he continues to be number one, it will be dicey with the situation with jimmy fallon too. >> okay. so what about the report of moving back to new york? anything more to that? >> well, you know, i think that's the interesting thing here. will the "tonight show" actually move back to new york? i think that should have been the big headline rather than will one replace the other. it could happen. it definitely could happen. and there is a sense now and a bigger question that's kind of looming here in los angeles, is los angeles starting to lose its grip on the entertainment industry which it was once thought you had to move here to get the celebrities. you don't have to do that so much anymore. and film a television production are leaving for places like atlanta, where you are. or like new orleans. places where frankly it's cheaper to produce. >> that's right. all right. thanks so much. always good to see you. >> absolutely. >>> an 11-year-old boy holding what appears to be an

, conan to fallon, "late night with jimmy fallon," how you like me now?heers and applause ] >> steve: wow! >> jimmy: that was pretty good. that was not bad! bad. bad to the bone, bone thugs-n-harmony, eharmony, dot com, rom com, comic con, contra, bringing it back to the contra code, up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, b, a, select, start, "start me up" by the rolling stones -- [ mick jagger voice ] hey, start me up, i'm mick jagger. mick jagger, "moves like jagger," bringing it back to maroon 5, slaughterhouse 5 by kurt vonnegut, squirt on a cut, bringing it back to neosporin, neo from "the matrix," trix cereal, "silly rabbit, trix are for kids," kid tested, mother approved, kicking it back to kix cereal, cereal bowl, bowl cut, cut and paste, paste, bringing it back to elmer's glue, elmer who? elmer fudd, fuddruckers, darius rucker, bringing it back to hootie, hootie who? hootie and the blowfish, one fish, two fish, red fish, blue fish, now i got my dr. seuss fix, "hop on pop," pop and lock, lock and key, key and peele, peel and eat, eat pray l

while tourists are like, "hey, conan, you all right in there?" [ laughter ] "hey! conan, what --" [ cheers and applause ] not enough room. not enough room. not enough room. you can't do it. not enough room. >> steve: whoo! >> jimmy: hey, guys. i read about a growing trend of older americans who are using marijuana in their retirement. [ cheers and applause ] which explains why my grandma was like, "whoa, 'dark side of the moon' syncs up perfectly with this episode of 'jeopardy!' what?" [ laughter ] that's right. older americans are smoking weed in their retirement. which makes sense, because old people are always talking about their joints. [ laughter ] and i just never understood why. i guess that explains why white castle is now offering an early bird special. that makes sense to me now. i'm about to show you a very funny clip, you guys. this is during a recent ufc fight. we always have those guys on our show. we're big fans. this announcer had a funny way of pronouncing fighter danny mainus -- mainus' last name. [ light laughter ] danny mainus is the man's name.

he seemed to be borrowing a line from conan o'brien's people of earth resignation letter, but that's have in common. these guys are rich enough to talk back. quote, no one should waste a second feeling sorry for me, conan said, as he left his nbc show with a $32 million payout. mason who owns $213 million in stock shares said i'm okay with having failed at this part of the journey. business insider compiled a 13 best resignation letters of all time. >> i would say i would not recommend people to resign this way unless you have a fortune to back you up already. >> many of these guys did. goldman sachs executive director greg smith slammed the company over what he considered meager $500,000 bonuses. jonathan schwartz went out with a tweet that said, seems only fitting to end on a hash tag haiku. it's not only executives who go out with a bang. who could forget the jet blue flight attendant steven slater. he pulled a chute and ended up with a booking shot as a present. kevin nolte ended his career at merck with this photo. if you just don't care, bear your chest in the company lunchroom

i'm, like, backstage at the conan show, like, knocking people in the head and kicking [bleep] over. "i can never have you!" stomping around like godzilla. rah! smash. and she's on the show, doing the panel segment, talking about how she had to do a sex scene in one of her "eh" movies. and i'd never heard of this, but they make the guy -- when they're having movie sex -- they make the guy wear a thing called a [bleep] sock. it's totally true. it's a [bleep] sock, and, basically, they put a stocking on your wiener, and then they pull it through your legs, which -- that's appealing. that's like how serial killers [bleep] [ breathing heavily ] snap. you got to break their neck at the end. [ laughs ] oh, come on. you got to. [ laughs ] but i had never heard of the [bleep] sock because i've never done a sex scene in a movie. done a bunch of movies. no sex scenes. and i know my place. i know i'm not gonna get to do a sex scene in a movie. i think if i did, it would be a horror movie, and i won't be the one having the sex. like, some hot, young couple getting it on, hot-young-couple style.

. >>> ever wondered what a famous person would sound like, conan o'brien has. >> we melded hillary clintonn tyler. >> i just want to tell you, i'm going to tell you to keep it together. because the whole world is watching you. >> taylor swift and harry styles. >> i don't really talk about my love life. i kind of sing about it a lot. music is a way of understanding what i'm feeling. >> finally, you asked for it. president obama and nicki minaj. >> i would like to everyone to know how singing, lo and behold there are tons of girls and tons of boys that appreciate all of that craziness. >> is that legal? >> you can't go wrong. y >> how about you and i morphed together. >> go ahead and read the tease. >> i have an e-mail from your girlfriend. >> sorry, i can't do lunch today. >> thanks, bill. still ahead on "way too early" -- why are you awake? your tweets and texts are next and "morning joe" is just moments away. [ female announcer ] born from the sweet monk fruit, something this delicious could only come from nature. new nectresse. the 100% natural no-calorie sweetener made from the goodness

. >> you look very conan barbarian. >> this is our gorilla coat.cal to this proce process. obviously little gorillas know to hold on to hair. >> do you coo? >> no, i uls use gorilla accent. >> reporter: evan instructs me to put on my own ape suit. turns more like a sheep. evans is careful not to baby this baby. >> i groom her just like a gorilla. i'm yanking the hair. i'm putting my fingernails in her head. the mothers do it. when she goes in with the mom, she's going to do that to her and we don't want that to be the first time she experiences that. >> reporter: after a nap, gladys wakes and gets curious. and my sur go aheadcy training kicks into high gear. i'm told i have to try to sound like a gorilla to help soothe gladys. >> she's getting a little fussy. you feel like she's getting a little nervous, pull her to the chest and give her a little vocalizati vocalization. how is that for belching vocalization? >> perfect. >> reporter: at two months, hoo uh -- human babies are lumps of flesh. gladys is strong. she eats, sleeps, plays for about an ho

and conan did it 13 and david letterman did it 11.faster path to the 11:30 slot than anybody has had before. but it's a different time in television. things are changing. i think they want to have a new kind of a show. they want to have young blood. they don't want jimmy kimmel to get established for a long time and try to take all the younger viewers away. he hasn't really done that from leno by the way. leno continues to win a lot of nights from the younger viewers which is important to "late night" because that is what the advertisers want to reach. there is a strategy at nbc i think that it is time to get this lined up at least and it'll be, you know, in the next 18 months or so. it's not like jay leno is leaving tomorrow. >> all right. the "new york times" bill carter, congratulations on the scoop. >> thanks, jake. >>> in other pop culture news the music fans chased the beatles down the street. the fans who are painting over justin bieber's attempt to grow a mustache as we speak and the fans who mixed with the greatest acts of th

al is having a lunch on with conan at his house for raffle tickets.f the cuff remarks, and spoke entirely in italian, offering some rather casual and humorous comments and he has a habit of stopping and talking to random people to greet and chat with him. >> bill: i like the style of the new pope. you don't expect him to really change the rules of the church but he could change the emphasis of the church where the church will start talking more about the poor and social just advertise and stop talking so much about sex. so without changing the rules he could change the im emphasis. >> i'm interested to see how he deals with the nuns. >> and forbes magazine releasing its list of the most influential celebrities, and queen oprah is still number one. steven spielberg is somebody 2 followed by martin scorzazi. >> i would say george clooney is above oprah at this point. you don't even know where to find oprah anymore. >> yeah. [ inaudible ] but that's it. >> bill: yeah, interesting. all right. we can disagree with that. >> we have a lob with the listen in,

. >> conan, oh, taking a nice swipe. but the papal comedy wasn't just on tv.re tweeting out there, as well. oh, yeah. pineapple express star seth rogen tweeting there's also white smoke coming out of my office and nobody seems that excited about it. >> bheeden writer albert brooks got a little political tweeting the pope came on the balcony, saw his shadow and realized there were six more centuries of scandals. thank you for that, mr. brooks. >> in light of all yesterday's seriousness and pageantry a little humor is grateful. >>> your local news coming up. >> for everyone else we'll be right back. smoke? nah, i'm good. ♪ [ male announcer ] every time you say no to a cigarette, you celebrate a little win. nicoderm cq, the patch with time release smart control technology. quit one day at a time with nicoderm cq. with time release smart control technology. whatever mountain you set outhere's new grape-nuts fit. from the cereal that helped the first man conquer everest. so just imagine where it could take you. grape-nuts original, and new delicious fit. what's you

in the old strat conan rating the highest intensity we found was 35, so a fairly intense rating and the lowest was 12 in west mount and that fits with the trends of what's happening in those neighborhoods. so taggers is a very important part of the graffiti audit. when we first started the audit mark went on his observe and he was new to graffiti so him and his assistant did their best to log the tags. what we wanted to do was try and see if we could increase the percentage of tags that were identified. so two bylaw officers accompanied them throughout the audit and they assist with identification of taggers. our rate for identifying taggers has gone up to 70 percent through the audit so the information we are able to gather in terms of intell is critical in terms of enforcement efforts. last year's audit, 2011, ome and iran were two of the taggers arrested and focused on by the edmonton police service based on what's going on through an every day basis, brute and chrome, which are two of the most prolific taggers we have right now, that is the focus the edmonton are going after and the

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economic factors may take some spring out of the easter bunny's step this year but seriously kudos to conan o'brien for once again exposing the media repeaters look eyes obviously this is no coincidence the question remains. where are all these news stations getting their scripts from while there are affiliate news services that supply packages and scripts to hundreds of stations around the country stations then have their anchors read the canned the story with the generic script now you might look at this and say it's just indicative of how lazy local news can be but consider the implications of this kind of reporting for one second say it was an easter bunny and rather the story being mindlessly regurgitated was about a virus a terrorist attack or a report on a war casualty counts the bottom line is that people who watch the news tend to trust this information information that influences their perception and decisions so for these anchors to ask no questions do no fact checking and hold no different interpretation of the news the delivering is not only absurd it's downright dangerous. if

hour also turned the lights off also in the crumbling for the very first time the lights are now by conan the russian capital and my colleague kevin owen spoke. the fascinating of and it was really a spectacular view and for so many here in russia and i'm sure worldwide it was a very inspiring in a very uniting moment not only for. as well as russian cosman out i wonder why he supported that movement and he actually filmed a video but he did that in space and i guess we can now listen to a bit of it you can see clearly just how much our planet needs care and protection when i first came on board the international space station i was amazed by the beauty of the earth it's the most important thing we've got. we depend on it completely and it depends on how we treat it support the earth and we'll be watching here how the earth finally gets its hour of rest well it is a symbolic movement really it was made to attract more attention towards the problem of the climate change to raise people's awareness of you know carbon pollution and other environmental needs and it causes a lot of you think i

it's him and conan o'brien.onymous for having the best and most awesome dos of all time. >> getting haircuts out here whoever wants to sit down out there can cut hair with burrs. not me. you ain't taking my hair off. i like getting it thinned but don't caught cut me wald. it makes it sort of rough getting haircuts around here. >> the lack of a good haircut is not his only complaint about wabash. >> this is one of the best meals we got out of the whole menu. and we still ain't figured out what the meat is. it is alpacas or guineas or a combination of both. an alpaq-guinea. mainly what you get down here seven days a week you can count on it like clock work that is rice and dehydrated potato flakes. as i was saying, rice that means tonight we'll have potatoes on here. dehydrated potatoes. >> they add water to them and it's like sea monkies. they add water, poof, you know. stone says he had a better diet at indiana state prison because the inmates were allowed to tend gardens and grew their own food. >> this place h

i'm not sure you can say it about conan, but jay leno. >> alisyn: and rick reichmuth. >> rick: jimmyhappen again. >> clayton: always in the face of it, pushing a guy out. >> rick: do we watch conan anymore, do we watch it. >> alisyn: what channel is it on. >> tucker: on the food channel or something. >> clayton: half a million viewers on oxygen, pbs. >> rick: point made. and take a look at the weather maps, a cold start again across areas of the south. and take a look at 26 degrees in jackson, mississippi. and march, should go dealing with spring and asalias blooming, but it's cold. 38 in orlando. how far south the cold is. another cold night across the south and then it will warm up just a little bit. take a look at the forecast for the day today. and in across the northeast, more scattered snow showers, kind of like yesterday, a similar kind after day today. pretty much just a repeat. down to the southeast, also, another cold one, but warming up across the areas of the texas and in towards o city and back up to 69 degrees, so, that's pretty good for you today. into the northern pla

i was a conan o'brien kid in college. that's why he's going to be moved by jimmy fallon.atives don't tend it be funny if there were conservatives out there that were funny, they wouldn't get overlooked by pop culture. >> that is cold. >> it's true. >> john. look, the question is, conservatives overlooked in popular culture. the reality is that conservatives end up being very often at war with popular culture. trying to basically do a flanking move with much of modernity, because they want to conserve the past. they are traditionalists. there is space for libertarian south park conservatives, conservatives feel like they are locked out from popular culture better look in the mirror and get with the program, start working with american culture. >> jason and john, thank you for playing today. >>> coming up, jimmy fallon might join the ranks of johnny courson on "the tonight show." good-bye, jay leno. nbc isn't talking, but it's building a new studio. we'll tell you more about that. it's a hawk with night vision goggles. it's marching to the beat of a different drum. and wher

they put in conan, and then this one, and then they just cut the budget. they keep doing it.eno loves his job. does it better than anybody other than maybe johnny carson, and now -- see, they haven't even cancelled -- his contract runs for another year. to me this is all couldn't of like a trial balloon. ol know? and they shouldn't be sucking on that balloon. jay has delivered for the network for a long time, and he is funny. the conservatives think he is too liberal. the liberals think he is tie conservative and he is right in the middle and doing comedy. it's tough to do conservative comedy. >> neil: four mints in and you had your hit. >> i didn't say anything. i didn't say the only conservative comics or hannity and -- >> neil: that's fine. enough -- >> i didn't say it, neil. >> neil: you were the guy, the force behind one of the most off van guard shows in cbs hoyt when laugh-indebutted, and i'm sure you dealt with management types who winced at what they were seeing. >> the third week on the air we were canceled in seattle, and nbc said, look what you have done. i said i

tv critics, the new york wise guys think he's not hip and he's not cool, we went through this with conan. but it does seem -- haven't seen a single denial from nbc saying the idea that he will be replaced at the end of 2014 when his contract expires by jimmy fallon. nobody is knocking it down. that looks like it will happen. >> joe, you did a terrific piece on the matt lauer scandal being billed into media circles. >> you didn't tell anybody -- >> let's look at two front pages. one is a hollywood reporter, almost exactly a year ago when matt signed this $25 million deal to continue "the today show." and there he is as the hottest guy in the business. cut forward to a year. a picture from the same set, hollywood reporter had, and that tells the story. not a good morning. hard to think of anyone who hasn't been involved in a tiger woods scandal or anything of that nature whose brand has been so apparently damaged in such a short space of time over somebody leaving the show that most experts agreed probably wasn't working on the show. >> well, you're right. it's been one of the most incredi

he was taken off for conan o'brien and moved to 10:00. so there was obviously a rub there.ybody have any idea what the have you been here now with nbc now? >> eric: they are looking five and ten years down the road, right? leno is 15 -- how long has he been? >> kimberly: but why put him out now? he's funny. i get his jokes. >> eric: tv is tough. entertainment is cut-throat business and looking down the road. >> kimberly: listen to this clip of leno. he has something to say about president obama. >> president obama is now in israel. it is his first trip to israel as president. he did not bring along joe biden. the president trip to israel is called a high profile trip. not as high profile as playing golf with tiger woods but still high profile. it's not that great. >> kimberly: all right. too conservative? what that is what some suggest. >> eric: someone tweeted maybe he's pulled off because he is focusing his comedy toward the center part of the country, rather than the two coasts which are more liberal. i don't know. maybe. johnny carson, every single late night host goes

>>brian: he ended up getting better ratings than conan. nbc turns on conan and threw him out.>alisyn: maybe they just like leno. >>steve: you heard about that training accident that killed on monday night seven brave marines out in hawthorne, nevada. extraordinarily yesterday on the floor of the u.s. senate, senate majority leader harry reid suggested that the accident was caused by the sequester. listen. >> one of the things in sequester is we cut back in training and maintenance. that's the way sequester was written. these men and women, our marines were trained there in hawthorne. and with the sequester, it's going to cut the stuff back. i just hope everyone understands. >>steve: he's suggesting that the marines are sending out men and women to do these exercises without being properly trained. that is not true. >>brian: by the way, if you don't like the way it was written, tell the president. he wrote it. number two is that is extremely insulting. can you imagine being the family member? yes, seven people died because of a sequester? now we find out the investigation revea

younger people liked conan and they chose sides.show." the secret is a broad audience, not just people who are 22. >> it used to be leno, letterman, the two people, same ages, competing against each other, now it's fallon/kimmel. it's their turn. i like jay, but this is a guy who on his vacation goes and does standup. enough. enough. time to cede to the next generation. >> the start date of the new show, 2014. september of 2014. a long time to go. how much can we have this much drama, before it has an impact? >> i wallowed in the drama last time, but the problem is, nbc would probably like to get rid of jay tomorrow, because he's taking shots at the network in his monologue, which johnny carson did also. >> the snakes of st. patrick that they should come as nbc executives and driving people away many. >> we have a clip of jay leno making fun of nbc. let's hear it. >> before we get started, i have to talk about -- you know, the whole legend of st. patrick, right? he drove all the snakes out of ireland and came into the united states

the network tried that with conan o'brien and that didn't go so well.tie ann. >> north korea's leader is warning his rocket forces are ready to quote settle accounts with the u.s. the threat coming after we deployed b 2 stealth bombers to south korea in a training exercise. doug la zard is live with more on this one this morning. good morning, doug. >> good morning, pattie ann. they moment this is just talk. he has placed his forces on stand by to attack the united states. now, earlier today, there was a massive rally in the north korean capital of pyongyang. the government issuing new threats after the pentagon sent a pretty strong message this week. dispatching b-2 stealth bombers on a long distance mission flying from the u.s. on a nonstop round trip to the korean peninsula to participate in military exercises with south korean forces. a not so subtle warning to north korea and material new leader kim jong u.n. >> you have to take seriously every provocative bellicose word and action that this new young leader has taken so far since he has come to po

[ laughter ] >> jimmy: the last time the heat lost, conan o'brien was the host of "the tonight show."> steve: what? [ audience ohs ] >> jimmy: long time ago. some -- [ laughter ] some political news today. republican senator, saxby chambliss says he doesn't support gay marriage because he's not gay. which would be pretty believable if his name didn't sound like a brand of pink champagne. [ laughter ] saxby chambliss. [ light laughter ] speaking of the gop, this week, the republican national committee announced that it will spend $10 million to reach out to hispanic, asian and african-american voters. you know, to ask them not to vote. [ light laughter ] i hear that pope francis is so new at the vatican that receptionists are having trouble recognizing his voice when he calls. luckily, the vatican records all of their calls. and it's true. they really don't recognize him. listen to this. [ phone ringing ] >> this is vatican. how may i direct your call-a? >> eh, it's a-me, the pope-a! [ laughter ] i said, it's a-me, the pope-a. >> eh, i don't know the pope-a. >> what do you mean, you do

didn't we see this one before with -- yeah conan.the next host. it is your show. we're going to dump jay leno and move the show back to new york. that's where it started, and johnny carson was the one who moved it to l.a. because he wanted to have a nicer lifestyle. i know his house in malibu, and he wanted to have a -- be closer to hollywood celebrities, but they want to move it back to new york and they are building a new studio for him. so jay leno is wasting no opportunity to jab back at the nba executives. here he is last night. >> this is kind of scary, scientists say they are getting closer to closer to cloning of extinct species. things once thought to be extinct can now be brought back from the dead. so there's hope for nbc. it could turn around. [ laughter ] >> good for him. they are stabbing him in the back -- >> bill: they counted him out as dead before. >> this will be the second time to push him out, and he has now for 21 years basically been number 1 the entire time. >> bill: he has been number 1 in the overall ratings

back in 2009 and they originally made the deal in 2004 they really wanted to keep both jay leno and conanmmy kimmel is presenting a big match here. >> bill: is there any possibility that jay leno might in fact want to retire after doing it for 33 years. >> i think if there's one thing that we know about jay leno is that he will not retire -- they are going to have to pry him away from that desk. he wants to die in that desk it seems like. >> bill: >> you said they are going to have to replace jay leno at some point, i'm not a leno fan, but if he is delivering why not let him retire in the chair? >> i think jay leno would agree with you and his jokes he has been making really is a testament of that. it is really a tough thing, because he gets number 1 in the demographic and he has been doing that consistently since he has been on the air since about 1995. >> bill: yeah, and not just overall ratings but in the demographic he has been getting number 1. >> exactly which i think surprises people. 18 to 49 he wins that. he beats jimmy kimmel. he beats david letterman. >> what is the big argumen

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the other thing they have done in the past, both with jay and with when conan got it was to do it ine just because then he gets a running start into the season. >> jay leno is doing well in the ratings. >> yes, he's winning. he's always won. he's remarkably resilient in terms of winning. >> winning not just in households, with older viewers but younger viewers. >> he has won the younger viewers consistently and i think they all concluded when abc moved jimmy kimmel in there it would be a problem for jay, because jimmy is hot. he's a very hot act and terrific, really. you can't -- let's say assume that kimmel will pick up young viewers. if you let that happen over a period of two, three, four years, then you've got a guy established. until you get your competitor in there, you really don't want to do that. but jay is strong, especially strong in the middle of the country. and i think people have always underestimated that because if you think about it, in st. louis, chicago, that's 10:30 at night, not 11:30 at night so there's more viewers up and available. so if you do well in the mi