when the whole conan/leno thing went down, same thing. i go, my job is not to be serious, it's my job to make people laugh and go to bed. my show is on at 12:30 a.m. >> i love that. >> eastern. >> love that. 12:39. >> the weirdest time. tivo if you don't watch the show. dvr it. if you have a vcr, good for you. let me show how it's still going. >> the whole conan/leno thing, the offer is you can go on at 12:01. it's not even tonight. how can -- "the tonight show" starts tomorrow. >> it's tomorrow show, exactly. they said to me, would you mind moving an hour later? i said, yeah, of course. what time am i on now? are you kidding me? i'm basically on at 3:00 in the morning. i'm up against the slap chop commercials. >> i can't imagine anybody disliking you. i asked everybody about jimmy fallon. they were all like, great guy, great guy. even if they don't watch your show, they like you. >> people have disliked me. you know, high school i wasn't the most popular kid. i wasn't the nerdiest kid. i was kind of in the middle. >> why weren't you that