we continue with former secretary of state, condeleezza rice. let people read it themselves in the back, but you describe your day on 9/11. the president shouldn't come back, all of the things that happened, how cool the president was under pressure, and you gave him really high marks. but i want to fast forward to we finally get bin laden. now, if president obama had his way we wouldn't have had those interrogationings, would have closed down gitmo, wouldn't have hoped, and black sites, et cetera. he opposed the very things that got us the intelligence so he could make, i agree with you what you say in the book, a tough decision. so you give credit to both president bush and president obama. but we wouldn't have gotten there had president obama and other people had their way. that bothers me. it seems he didn't have the wisdom and understanding that this was a war on terror. >> he wasn't president at the time. and when you sit in the oval office, when you sit in the oval office, you had better be ready to make the tough decisions to defend this