bush, condoleeza rice, joins us right now.> good morning. >> steve: apparently the secretary of state also says he doesn't know why we haven't heard from any of the survivors of the benghazi attack yet. doesn't know if we will, although he personally has been in contact with at least one. >> yes. right. the benghazi incident was one of the most terrible in recent history for us and i think the real issue is how not to let something like this happen again. i think there is still a lot to understand about what happened in the hours before benghazi happened. you're talking about really not a matter of hours, but days before the security situations with deteriorating. the british had left. the red cross had left. there had been a fire bombing a month before. >> steve: there was trouble. >> there was trouble. and clearly the security presence wasn't high enough for that. and i knew ambassador chris stevens. wonderful officer. what he was doing in benghazi on the anniversary of september 11, probably shouldn't have been there. but i

americans americans who aret conservative, look how they were attacked,co michael, tim scott, condoleeza rice, any time you see people stand up and swim against the current, especially as a minorityes conservative, definitely black conservative, the other side comes at them viciously. >> can i just point something out? who cares? who cares what the other side does? >> you have to. >> no, you don't. >> screw the other side. >> in they call you a racist, you're supposed to say okay.to if they call you a tone, you're supposed to say okay? >> no. here is what i stand for action smaller government. i stand for less spending, keeping more of your own money and forget what color of my skin 'cause i don't care. >> i don't think he's talking about that. i think he's trying to talk about fighting the tactics that the left uses to marginalize blacks. you have t to -- you got to address that. you got to point it out to the young people that don't see what's beingyo done, what's beig manipulated. >> greg, with ted cruz, marco rubio, scott, on down the line, i think the young people will realize the republ

konz rierks kond condoleeza rice what do you think? >> i think the numbers are better.ok at the fact that the last three of the five are in fact women so things are getting better, but, you know, i see it in the classroom, even at a place like stanford. it's very important that women feel they are fully accepted in the workplace and that women put themselves out there. i found when i was a young specialist in international security had i been waiting for a female black associate yet specialist role model, i would still be waiting. and indeed the people who advocated for my career were white men. in fact, they were old white men because they dominated the field. >> i thought we were hearing things have been getting better for such a long time. >> yes they are. there are still barriers. we still have gender definition. when one woman walks into the a room people see certain aspects. my good friend the late sally ride talks about if a woman puts herself forward in science and math there's a sense she's not quite ready, so it's a combination. it's women putting themselves f

. >> gretchen: tomorrow, jeb bush will be here and condoleeza rice. >> brian: we might even have a beerjesus. >> we should. >> gretchen: why not? have a great day. >> steve: we'll pick up the tab. >> brian: bye, everybody. bill: they are not done yet. talk of another tax increase looming large in washington as congress goes back to work today. and the white house wanting republicans to accept higher taxes as part of a long-term debt deal. how is that going to go down? good morning. hope you had a great weekend everybody. i'm bill hemmer. welcome here to "america's newsroom". martha: it just keeps going. good morning, bill. good morning, everybody at home. i'm martha maccallum. the republicans are demanding spending cuts instead. watch this from the weekend. >> we would promise the american people we would do this year-and-a-half ago. here we are already talk walking away from spending reductions we promised to make without tax increases the president signed just a year and a half ago. so i think the american people need to know that we have a spending addiction in washington. we're expl