they knew in the confederacy. davis talked about it and then told his brother we need half a dozen of them. such a general in the full affectation of the word comes along only once in a generation. the import of his comment is clear. we have lee and we don't have anybody else. that is one of the problems of the confederacy. they only found one person who could command and army. they had more than one army. that is the problem. it is a problem they overcame. many called for lee being in complete power in the confederacy. one of peter's favorites put it this way. he should certainly have entire control of all military operations throughout the confederate states. i should like to see him as king or dictator. he is one of the few great men who ever lived to could be trusted. and the behind the line seen in richmond, he noted the same phenomenon in richmond in several entries. people saying that we should have all the power. we can trust him. they viewed him as the colonial population struggling against great britain

these are well-qualified officers fighting the confederacy. -- for the confederacy. that is why, early in the war, they were winning. they win most of the major fight. as things go on, and these guys fall away, it swings in the other direction. yes? >> i can understand the appeal of vietnam and korea. what is the process of curing the stories through? jeff shaara: much like with the american revolution. i wanted to go forward to the constitutional convention. you have benjamin franklin, key figures to the revolution. there involved in the formation of the country. the same situation now. in the aftermath the book, i talk about all of her howard founding howard university. i did not knowing his name. the problem is, it is a hard sell for my publisher. they are very much -- and i do not mean to be facetious -- they are of the opinion, if it ain't broke, do not fix it. i have a genre i focus on. to suddenly change and do something a little different might not work. i have people that follow what i write that are expecting certain things. that might be a curveball. but t

anything that gate -- can give aid to the confederacy. unfortunately, when the wind blows and you are the learning -- burning this factory next to a wooden house, it happens. john bell hood is being besieged by richmond to do something about this. hood realizes, he comes up with a new plan. i know what we will do, we will march north. we will go into tennessee, and we will go attack nashville. sherman who is over here in atlanta, he will follow us. he will protect national. what they don't realize is that sherman has already sent george thomas up to nashville with a bunch of people. sherman could care less about nashville and whether john bell hood is doing. he has his eye on something else entirely, and he does not tell his own army. he tells a couple of his own generals and he tells grant. he has to get grant and get -- washington's permission. he goes the opposite direction. we are going to burn all those railroads, or in the bridges behind us and go the other direction. in georgia you have three cities sort of in a range like this. th

neutral, but sympathetic toward the confederacy. pope pius ix actually began as what they hoped would be a liberal pope, and then during the revolution garibaldi came into rome and set up the republic of rome. pope pius was expelled from rome, came back with the help of the french. and the french continued to garrison the city of rome and to protect what were the papal states. is so the pope is, becomes a reactionary figure against all things modern. the syllabus -- [inaudible] denounces toleration of religion free speech, free thought and denounces all forms of modernity especially liberalism and nationalism. the confederates see a friend in pope pius ix, and they send emissaries to get him to side with the confederacy in its war against these zealot puritans who were ransacking churches in louisiana and desecrating the catholic churches in other parts of the country. and the pope wrote a letter that essentially said that he regretted this intestinal war as they called it and hoped for peace. but on the envelope, it was addressed t

of the confederacy. understanding the fundamental idea the flag was not an important symbol until into the middle of the 20th century when segregation was defended in the aftermath of the brown decision when georgia adopt the flag we have to understand the history, and not get too bogged down in feel-good legends that many may have grown up believing. >> a cornerstone the lost cause idea of civil war, was the war was not fought over slavery, but over state's rights. >> that is nonsense we have to get rid of the idea. the easiest way to do that. historians like to look at primary documents, and the document of succession in south carolina or georgia, in texas, it was explicit that they fought over slavery what they saw as an attack and assault. their institution which they believed was written into the constitution as it was. the three fifth compromise giving the states a power in congress and the electoral college goodnight white voting population. that meant five of the first seven presidents were slave

the confederacy of jefferson davis was depressed. they had loaded the archives and confederate gold on trains to take it out of richmond because it looked like richmond was about to fall. and the war might have been over in the spring of 1862 but as everybody knows, jackson and lee and the confederate counteroffensive change that. that was the first turning point. the second is antietam. the third one was gettysburg and vicksburg and then the last one was sherman's capture of atlanta and union victories in the fall of 1864 and lincoln's reelection. each of those blunted confederate momentum. it looked like it might be moving towards some kind of victory but turned it around. and the final one turned it around permanently. i would stick with that basic approach even today. 27, 28 years later. >> we are coming out of a commemorative period of the civil war as mr. carmichael has noted. what do you think the great challenges are in the way in which we remember the civil war? dr. mcpherson: well, i guess we challenge is to continue to try

he was instrumental and affecting the policy of great britain toward the confederacy.e confederates conceded from the union they thought that britain would not have a choice but to back them. it was under that assumption that they broke away. they did not have a war machine or industrial base. they thought the biggest power in the world would support them because they got 80% of their cotton from the south. four years before the war began, he started laying the groundwork with the argument that the slave trade would be revived by breakaway of the confederacy. every time that britain came close to recognition after the war began, that if she would come up, and the government would back away from the confederacy. he was one of those complicated characters who originally went to charleston because he thought it would be a good career move. when he got there he saw what slavery looked alike and thought it was graham and ugly. he was completely duplicitous -- very grim and ugly. he was completely duplicitous. he convinced the slave owners he was on their side, and at the sa

the capital of the confederacy was theirs.from new york, one said that it the government of the united states has become nomadic. it probably in a dirty, damaged railroad car in a seat of government on the saddle which jeff davis b strides. he was not far wrong. lincoln -- sorry, lee retreated westward with the hope of reaching rations by rail. he plan to join joseph johnston. the better fed and clothed kept pace. they paralleled lee's movement to the west and captured by told supplies that lee hoped to find at the courthouse. grand strategy of exhaustion was embodied in the erosion of the army as it marched toward affymetrix, thousands of soldiers collapsed not having eaten or slept for the several preceding days. on april 9, lee asked great for terms and the army stopped fighting. by the time of the ceremonial finish, most people heard rumors if not bona fide news reports of lee's capitulation. all though joe johnson's army wriggled for the next three weeks -- surrendering to sherman's army further north laid down. the war e

john: not just the confederacy. i agree. the union is looking back at that as well, the common heritage. i would like to suggest that loyalty probably depends in many respects on your relationship to the coming war. border states, for example, who might be loyal to the union, but at the same time, feel that perhaps a war against slavery would not be particularly welcome. gary: let me interrupt. it is a misnomer to say there is a war between the north and south because three southern states remain loyal to the united states. missouri kentucky, maryland, delaware. john: absolutely. we even have northerners who are -- a few northerners who make statements to suggest that if they are entirely loyal to the nation. they are not necessarily willing to oppose it militarily. wayward sisters, go in peace. gideon welles. loyalty itself, though i think we will use it in the shorthand term, talking about the way the jones talked about it, there are places where it is the union as it was, the union as it might be the union with slavery th

you will notice that i did not say the confederacy lost. i do not think the question of why did the civil war ended the way it did can be explained by the divisions among southerners. those divisions were certainly real and many loyal confederates despised jefferson davis for policies for you -- policies. resented them all the more important people in the confederacy resented the most of all because they live so close. the same 4 people benefited from the redistributing properties and make supplies available, the purpose to give the confederate government the ability to redistribute to equalize the burdens of war. how they fail in social terms. southern men and women clash over the changes by the war and black southerners provided aid to the union. the confederacy was right with -- right with internal bus of the north had the same dissent. [indiscernible] only the most obvious examples of these divisions. the democrats debilitating resistance to lincoln and the republicans across the southern tier of northern border states like missouri, ke

-- william seale: confederacy. pamela sanfilippo: -- and he actually sets up the first ever international arbitration, and is credited with peacefully resolving the dispute with england. susan swain: we'll take another call. this is larry in mill hall pennsylvania. hi, larry. larry larry: hello. i am watching all of your series -- susan swain: great, thanks. larry: -- series and enjoyed them very much. my question is, i've recently read "the general's wife" by isabel ross. and one of the comments that she makes in her book is that julia's father really did not care for ulysses at first. so, i was just wondering if you could comment on that. william seale: well, he did say that she wouldn't -- he told grant that she would not like the military life. he was very dubious. and she had been raised with everything, and would -- would definitely have to do without. he didn't -- susan swain: and -- and they also had disagreements about -- over slavery and -- william seale: slavery. pamela sanfilippo: yeah. but initially, h

we were in abbyville about 100 west of here and that was the first place and the death of the confederacy, and a lot of people have reverence for the symbols of the civil war, but even people there said it's time to take it down. >> we're looking at live pictures of governor nikki haley who yesterday signed the bill that is effectively meaning the removal of this confederate symbol from state house grounds this morning. and diane this was a reversal of sorts for governor haley who in 2000 when this flag debate was happening, she sided with those that believed it should stay on the state house grounds. >> reporter: that's right, but you know what the mood and the attitude about the flag has really changed a lot in the last few weeks since the shootings at the emanual ame church in charleston, and it was not just the shootings, but it was the attitude that the family members took towards dylann roof the alleged gunmen offering forgiveness to him. and people here realized -- and the governor realized that this has become a very divisive issue that it has become an issue that is hurtful to a

the confederacy -- jefferson davis was depressed. they had loaded the archives and confederate gold on trains to take it out of richmond because it looked like richmond was about to fall. the war might have been over in the spring of 1862, but as everybody knows, jackson and lee and the confederate counteroffensive change that but that was the first turning point. the second one was in two. the third one was gettysburg and the last one was sherman's capture of atlanta and other union victories in the fall of 18 six four, and lincoln's -- fall of 1864, and lincoln's reelection. each of those collected confederate momentum, but it looks like it might be moving toward some kind of victory. the turned around. the final and turned around permanently. i would stick with that. even today 27-28 years later. question: we're coming out of commemorative. of the civil war. what do you think is the great challenge for the way in which we remember the civil war? james: i guess the challenge is to continue to try to understand its impact -- it's co

member house of representatives are expected to offer amendments hoping to retain some symbol of the confederacy on the grounds of the capital. >> i think there's serious problems with the senate bill. >> reporter: as debate starts, protestors are gathered outside of the statehouse. >> fact is that it is offensive to some people and so because this is a communal area it needs to be welcoming to everyone. >> reporter: debate over the flag was revived after nine people were killed during bible study in charleston last month. the accused shooter appeared in photos holding the confederate flag. if the bill gets final approval the flag could be removed

would have a commission that would design a pole in memory of black soldiers who fought for the confederacy. upon completion of that pole, the current pole would be taken and placed in the relic room and the pole honoring those african-american soldiers who fought for the confederacy would be the new pole from which the infantry flag would fly. that's it. >> thank you mr. corley. >> pending question the is adoption of amendment 61. saw mr. brown move to table amendment 61. i saw mr. mcknight request a role call. do nine members second his request? nine do. we'll vote on the board. pending question tabling a motion on amendment 61. >>> polls will close. clerk will tabulate. by a vote of 80 to 29 amendment 61 is tabled. >> 62. miss emril. are you ready? mr. simril withdraws amendment 6 62. 63. 63, pitts. 63, pitts. >> mr. nbc knight. >> how many more amendments do we have? >> i'll check, mr. mcnight. if mr. pitts will suspend his comments and let me look. thank you, mr. mcnight. >> mr. mcknight it looks like we have ten amendments to go including those passed over. >> thank you sir. >> yes, s

after decades of flying high, south carolina removes a symbol of the confederacy from the state capital grounds. disturbing new questions about the shoot that go sparked that change. the head of the fbism says the man accused of murdering nine people in a church should never have been allowed to buy a gun. >>> rememberremembering a massacre, while controversy still surround europe's worst mass killing since world war two, 20 years after the attack. and defying the supreme court. clerks refusing to issue marriage licenses to game couples in kentucky. get an ultimatum from the state's governor. ♪ ♪ >>> good evening i am antonio mora this is al jazerra america. we begin a historic day in south carolina. for the first time in decades the confederate battle flag is no longer flying on the ground of the state capital in columbia. the flag, long controversial. become an even bigger hot button issue after last month's massacre at at the emanuel am even church in what reel stop nine black parishioners were apparently killed in the rochely motivate ahead tack. what are people telling you about th

a battle over the most recognizable symbol of the confederacy. >> i cannot believe that we do not have the heart in this body to do something meaningful. >> reporter: three weeks ago, nine people were gunned down inside emmanuel ame church by a 21-year-old man fuelled by hate. and photographed with the confederate flag. on thursday south carolina governor nikki haley used nine pens to sign the bill to remove the flag. one for cynthia hurd whose brother mall con witnessed the moment. >> my sister and eight others serve as the bench mark for why that flag is coming down. they're senseless murder. >> reporter: outside the state house, some protests, but mostly praise. >> we want it down! . >> reporter: a symbol that once divided our country bringing people together. and the state still reeling from a shocking summer. and the flag will come down at 10:00 state. i can tell you that many south carolinaens continue to fly the flag of the confederacy. >> just minutes after governor nikki haley signed the bill to remove the confederate flag the naac>>> and the ncaa took notice. now, that ban ha

he was known as they thunderbolt of the confederacy to the south. he was born in huntsville, alabama. his father was calvin morgan. he lived there until the age of five and then moved to lexington and a lived in a farmhouse on the edge of town that is still standing today. john hunt morgan is associated with this house because his mother owned it from 1849 until 1891. he was a big character in town even in the time that he worked in the hemp industry. he was a hemp farmer until the wards -- the war started your. he is in his late 30's at that time, relatively old for the group that is fighting touring the war. -- fighting during the war. you read in certain diaries that he is coming to visit and the girls were really excited that john hunt morgan was coming to town. he takes the war as far north as it goes and then is regularly rating different towns. there are stories of him being benevolent, paying for goods that he is acquiring from farmers in small towns. the best-known story about john hunt morgan is one late night he is escaping from union sol

. >>> we expect to hear about a rally protesting the confederacy. at 10:30, the naacp will ask for the removal of a bronze statue in downtown leesburg. it's of confederate soldiers protected by a virginia law that prohibits local authorities from removing it si an established war memorial. the naacp says it's not an appropriate representation of the civil war history. >>> in south carolina, the ku klux klan will rally today. the group will protest on the steps of the capitol to protest the removal of the confederate flag. the kkk is the largest klan in the u.s. they have received more than 6,000 membership applications in the past two weeks. >>> a big story we are following. 20 vehicles burned after a swift moving fire goes across the highway in california. this is along interstate 15, the main route to get from southern california to las vegas. tony shin has the latest. >> reporter: the cars actually caught on fire. it looked like a scene from a hollywood movie. for drivers on interstate 15, it was all too real. >> i saw the flames, grabbed my wate

it is alexander stevens, the vice president of the confederacy. why does edmund wilson? hold him up? because wilson saw him as one of the great spokespeople for an anti-leviathan worldview. someone was shouting against big government and bureaucracy. edmund wilson rights is truly glowing portrait of alexander stevens. at no point does he print the fact that alexander stevens said that slavery was the cornerstone of the confederacy. if you look at the sesquicentennial at no point could you have gone through most of the major events associated with the sesquicentennial, certainly none in virginia as part of this commission, and not been reminded the centrality of slavery for the civil war and the centrality of experience for african-americans. that is a measure of enormous transformation in the way that we make sense of the civil war of african-americans' participation in it. i have not heard of anyone in recent years who has held up alexander stevens as someone was answers to contemporary problems. prof. varon: people wrote about the construction of the archive. we can th

and others like the new confederacy like ohio and michigan, when it comes to voting, and what they are doing to remove those barriers. >>> charleston, i think it said over the news, is one of the holiest places in the old south. you have such a background in churches and religion and spirituality, what is your perspective on growing up with the emphasis on the spirit and on the bible and how you process that in terms of your community organizing? >> i think that change in this country has come with the role, especially for, for african- americans, is the church as an institution has been the pivotal point. all of our great leaders come out of the church. the voter registration drive was fed by volunteers generated by congregations, both black and white. when we went to mississippi in the 60s and alabama, a lot of white volunteers were volunteers, spurred by their denominational officer divorce -- desire to reach equity. the church is the fundamental full crum -- point for change. when the church struck at mother emanuel, a principal church i have attended when in the south. he struck a

i have relatives who fought for the confederacy also for the union. you have a connection to the confederacy, related to president jefferson davis, you said that heritage had nothing to do with the whole discussion how so? >> you know our heritage is our ancestry. our legacy is what we do while we are here. and because our ancestry is to be honored and revered, i think that in this situation, this flag was a symbol of terrorism for african-americans all over the south. and i would liken it to a symbol such as a swastika and how offensive that would be for jewish people. >> the speech that you gave on the house floor, i mean it clearly altered the course of the whole debate. i wondered what prompted-up to eded you to get up there and say the words that you did. had you planned it beforehand? did you know what you were going to say? obviously the emotion was so in the moment. >> anderson i had not planned to go to the well as we call it. we had been there all day. quite frankly all of us were exhausted. at one point, someone says i don't know who it was

know if it will serve as momentum for other states to remove confederate flags -- symbols of the confederacyinia and the federal government is deal withing this right now. >> you'd think of the symbolic nature of south carolina, this is first state that seceded from the union and now the first state to fully bury the confederate flag under all parts of the designation and look other southern states have slowly gotten rid of it. i'll be curious about mississippi georgia which still uses -- which models the state flag after the original flag of the confederacy. i think you'll see the movements happen fairly quickly because if south carolina did it why can't you? right? that's sort of the -- the brand new charge a little bit. it's a fascinating contrast thinking of this ending to the confederate flag, flying up on one hand and then what we have with donald trump. this should be a momentous occasion and then trump is leading them down another path. >> got governor haley on your mind. national chatter she is a vp contender. >> i think she might have been before hand, but this puts her in. she'll

the confed confed confederacy what also should be told on balance as best we can is the other 276 yearsof georgia history. the other perspectives and the other cultural representation of individuals who have been in our state. you know the native american perspective perhaps the perspective of the historic women who have come from georgia or even just honoring the man who founded georgia itself. these are all stories that are worthy to be told. they are all great american stories and they are stories that all georgians can embrace and should be made aware of. >> you proposed this resolution to alter some racist symbol of the south but you recently received some pretty racist language there in an e-mail. does that kind of be language strengthen your resolve to make changes to this carving? >> yes it does. these are the types of ideas that need to be challenged. i take this very of seriously and i have turned that over to my police department and the homeland security office. we are going to address the attitude and the perspective that it represents. you know it is my contention that if

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it's also about other confederate symbols including statues commemorating the confederacy. susan: those symbols are a state issue. the mississippi flag is the only flag that uses the embrem of the confederate flag. there's a resolution introduced that would require flags to come down. changing the mississippi flag will be something the legislature talks about next session and there's also statues. in ohio, they've voted to remove one of their statues a former lawmaker anti-abraham link -- lincoln and putting in a statue of thomas edison so there are efforts afoot to take what states have seen as hurtful symbols of confederacy and replace them but there are members who are nervous about trying to blanket remove ugly history of the country's history. gwen: john boehner has to figure a way to get an interior appropriations bill without that attached to it. democrats didn't hesitate to link the fight flag over another debate about intolerance. in the end, two themes dominated this week's 2016 campaign maneuverings. the one was money. jeb bush raised a lot. the other was donald

part of what people who grew up, and there was a lot of denial that confederacy had anything to do with slavery. >> gregory irwin professor of american military history at temple you've says the flag carried by the southern army during the civil war means different things to different people but one thing cannot be denied. >> confederacy was founded to protect slave you have row. there's no denying that. only slaves states left the union. >> you can't ignore heritage. you can't do it. it's not fair to the other side. >> reporter: george hoffman is the president of the bucks county civil war museum. it hangs original flags of the civil war and the nation's early years. >> that's original. the stains on it are bloodstains. >> reporter: hoffman says the flag will always have a place in history but whether it flys on state grounds is for lawmakers to decide. >> you can't erase the war much the war is going to be there. it was the largest most horrendous war in our history. >> did south carolina get it right here today. >> i think so. by taking this confederate symbol off the state capitol g

but as hannah daniels tells us the battle over the symbols of the confederacy are far from over. >> reporter: it's been a fixture for five decades but later this morning it will be a relic in a museum. governor haley signed the bill thursday ordering the confederate flag to come down dead indicate the move to the victims of last month's charleston shooting massacre. >> the action of nine individuals laid out this long chain of events. >> whoo! >> that forever showed the state of south carolina what love and forgiveness looks like. >> reporter: other states in the south are also reconsidering symbols of the confederacy. new orleans mayor mitch landrieu is calling for several confederate monuments to be replaced. >> these ideals have never really belonged in a city as great as new orleans. >> reporter: the debate has even spread to capitol hill where lawmakers on both sides are talking about whether the controversial flag should be flown at cemeteries run by the national park service. >> i do not want this to become some political football. it should not. [ applause and cheers ] >> reporter: m

my granddaddy, thomas peterson evans joined the confederacy at age 16. 16 years old. he fought for four years. he met a young lady in brunswick, georgia. her name was emmy gaye. trust me i'm not talking just general information. i know what i'm talking about. after the war was over he went back and he married her. after many, many years i finally found out who i looked like. i looked like my great grandmother. ladies and gentlemen, there comes a time in our life and i ask my preacher on sunday morning publicly i said, preacher, this is going to be a contentious week in the state house -- i didn't say state house, i said columbia. he stopped me and said grady we will pray for you. i want to thank them for doing that. i want to thank you all for being so kind today. this has just been unreal. but i want my friends back home on both sides of the issue to know that i'm doing what i'm going to do to vote to take the flag down because i think it is in god's eyes the right thing to do. thank you. [ applause ] >> mr. collins is recognized on the amendment. >> thank you mr. sp

the confederacy is a southern thing, but white supremacy is not.e the confederacy was defeated in the civil war, when reconstruction fell apart and there was the imposition of jim crow the north largely turned a blind eye to it because the as well. you see that playing out today when we are in 2015 and we are debating what the civil war was about. the united states went to war with itself over the issue of slavery and more americans died in that war than any other and we still have people who are not entirely clear on what the confederate flag represents. amy: your thoughts on people saying that you should have waited for the debate. it looks like there are enough south carolina legislators -- it is not even clear right now -- to have a two thirds majority needed to take down the flag. you made a different decision. bree: like i said, why is a debate required? the debate is required because of a law that was put in place by a racist all-white legislature in this 1960's. i thought it was a powerful statement to have the people go and take it down. w

then the ghosts of the confederacy were invaded the republican congress. as a result, less than 24 hours in a dramatic turnaround, in the dead of night house republicans reversed course. and set forth to legislatively legitimize the display and the fail of the confederate flag. they have made the decision to refer mr. thompson's resolution to a committee for a hearing. i am perplexed. the members of the republican congress who support the battle flag argue that this is about heritage and tradition. what exactly is the tradition the confederate battle flag is meant to represent? is it slavery? race? kidnap? genocide treason, or all of the above? the confederate battle flag is a symbol of racial hatred and depression. it stood for the defense of the institution of slavery. it is time to banish it to the dustbin of history which is where it belongs. it is my honor and privilege to yield to the distinguished gentleman, from the great state of california i may put in a motion to make him an honorary member of the congressional black caucus. [laughter] >> thank

the texas state capitol in austin, which is, according to the chronicle, full of tributes to the confederacy. a quick update. the situation in the navy yard is under control, as security now begins to move out of the region. no shooter was found and no shots were fired. that situation is under control. we will continue -- we will be back tomorrow morning, i should say, at 7:00 a.m. eastern time. thanks very much for being with us here on this thursday. i hope you enjoy the rest of your day and have a great fourth of july. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2015] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] >> coming up this morning on c-span, commencement addresses from around the country beginning with senator tim scott. also, former president george w. bush, condoleezza rice, and madeleine albright. and later, messages it's senator elizabeth warren. and live at 1:00 p.m. eastern it is republican presidential candidate and former texas governor rick perry. he will be the speaker at th

lee and a highway named for the president of the confederacy. he introduced the bill to bar properties from taking the nameles of leaders of the -- names of leaders of the confederacy. s. >>> a bill to regulate ecigarettes died in committee today. the bill was met with opposition by republicans. it was also opposed to large tobacco companies. the bill was dropped following a series of votes. >>> new at 5:00 p.m. alameda is home to harbor seals that many people are worried a new construction project may send them swimming away. ktvu's rob roth joins us now. >> reporter: we are by the naval air station and behind me you can see this dock. at the end there is a seal. it is a hang out for seals. the problem is the doc is slated to be dismantled, how do you get rid of the dock but keep the seals from leaving town? >> reporter: here in the bay by the navy base this wooden dock was the base of operations today for this harbor seal who didn't have much on the aenda. the -- ajebba. the doc a-- agenda. the doc attracted a group of 10 seals. >> they are si

kellye: protesters gathered outside the conference took the sons of confederacy. the meeting comes in the midst of a national debate over the symbol. a debate sparked by the martyrs of nine people inside a south caroline a church. the trial has been set for july next year. jeff goldberg travel to richmond for southern pride in frustration are on full display. reporter: each year they come together from all over the south. in the weeks leading up to this year, in richmond things changed dramatically. >> this reunion was going to be like any other in the past. reporter: the sons of confederate veterans have been meeting since 1896,. carrying history in memorabilia from the confederate cause and proudly displaying the confederate battle flag. >> it represents a symbol of independence. reporter: charge barrow is the commander in chief of the route and has been defending the flag all his life including since last month's deadly shooting rampage in south carolina which led to the taking down of the flag and places throughout the south. >> is likely look up one morning i

but then apparently the ghosts of the confederacy invaded the republican conference. and as a result less than 24 hours later in a dramatic turnaround in the dead of night under cover of darkness house republicans reversed course and set forth to legislatively legit legitimize the display and the sale of the confederate flag. today, they've made the decision to refer mr. thompson's resolution to a committee for a hearing. i'm perplexed. the members of the republican conference who support the confederate battle flag apparently argue that this is about heritage and tradition. what exactly is the tradition the confederate battle flag is meant to represent? is it slavery rape, kidnap, genocide, treason, or all of the above? the confederate battle flag is a devisive symbol of racial hatred and oppression. it stood for the defense of the institution of slavery. and in all of its forms it's time to banish it to the dust bin of history where it belongs. now my honor and privilege to yield to the distinguished gentleman, my good friend and colleague and classmate from the gre

now, questions are raised about other symbols of the confederacy.rch where the massacre took place is located on calhoun street named after john c calhoun, a congressman and vice president in the early 19th century. >> there are few figure of this period as powerful as john c calhoun. >> he wielded influence over policy and was wide lie known as an oddvo kate for slavery. >> he believed it was the backbone of the south, and thought it was civilizing the so-called savages, and you have to look at him in that light, that he was more that an advocate of slavery, a fierce defender of slavery. >> a petition is being circulated to rename the street and change it to clemente street. that may not be so easy. cal hoon is a revered figure. monuments, parks, lakes and institutions all over the south bear his name. it runs deep in the south. port her, bragg and lee bears the names of confederate generals. >> today i announced the formation of a task force to look at the statutory on the main mall and south mall of the campus, this is an emotional and important