they wanted to support the confederacy. and the people who were more dedicated tended to be people more invested in the confederacy, slave holders. a very large percentage of them were. they tended to be middle class, upper middle class, wealthy women. there were some poor, working class white women who nursed because they needed the money whereas the women who are truly dedicated as civil war nurses in the south tended to be heavily pro-confederate. they were deeply invested in the confederate cause. some women actually really had a difficult time with hospital care. a woman like mary chestnut, right? a very famous diarist from the south, she was a volunteer at a wayside hospital, hospitals created by women at highly-traveled, basically train depots to take care of men who were moving back and forth between the front and the home front. so they're actually really important medical institutions, and they were subsidiary care to the actual confederate medical institutions. and a lot of women felt a patriotic these to donate

the confederacy is not doing very well materially. tremendous hardship. they are dealing with the fact it's looking increasingly likely like they weighed lose. they all sort of emotional issues to deal with. people who had been nurses throughout the war, people are really stuck with the confederacy, they tended to shift their roles and attended to go into what we call memorial activity. you have on the homefront a lot of nursing societies. local societies that would come together, they usually came together as ladies aid or ladies, soldiers aid society can relate societies. they started off manufacturing supplies. they would unmask supplies and send them to hospitals. they would buy cloth and send it out to various people and so uniforms. a lot of these society shifted and he can hospitals ascites and many of them if they were on high-traffic routes would then establish a wayside hospital where the women would all contribute and all donate their labor to the hospital. and after the war a lot of the societies didn't disband. they then shifted and the leaki

at the confederacy increasingly does worse and worse toward the end of the war, it is emotionally difficult for them. they are not only dealing with the fact that they have sick and wounded men and not only dealing with the fact that their resources are declining, the confederates or he is not doing well materially, tremendous hardship in the confederacy but they are dealing with the fact it is looking likely they are going to lose. they have all sorts of emotional issues to deal with so people who had been nurses throughout the war and stuck with the confederacy tended to shift their roles and tended to go into what we call memorial activity. you had on the home front a lot of nursing societies, local societies that hung together usually came together as ladies aid or soldiers aid society and they started off manufacturing supplies and send them to hospitals. they would buy a cloth and farm it out to various people and so uniforms and a lot of these societies shifted and became hospital societies and if they are on high-traffic routes they would establish a wayside hospital where people wo

serveds an important trade route during the civil war and was the last atlantic seaport of the confederacy until it fell to union troops in 1865. today, wilmington has a population of 112,000 and has become a popular tourist destination with people looking to experience the city's history and nearby beaches. with the help of our charter communications cable partners for the next 90 minutes, we learn about the cities history from local authors. we begin with author chris pineville on fort anderson in the battle for wilmington during the civil war. >> i rolling thunder. [cheering] [applause] >> we are standing on the parapet of fort anderson. it was the largest confederate fort in the lowercase fear in the interior, that part of the western land approaches and the river approaches to the seaport of wilmington.the fourth was initially started in march 1862, construction ongoing throughout the war. are still working on it in febrry 1865. the fort was built on top of the old seaport. which was the leading seaport of the river in colonial times, in fact the first enduring settlement on the cape

part of it goes with the confederacy and the eastern portion tries to stay with the union. so what kind of message is lincoln sending by choosing andrew johnson? >> union. charles: ok. >> it goes back to the practical purpose of trying to balance the ticket, appealing to different parties. if you have somebody on your team who represents the other side, then you can get those votes. charles: what do they call it? they do not call themselves the republican party on the ticket. the national union. so the platform will be centered around union, but it will include what elements? are they going to negotiate peace? no. unconditional surrender. what else? right, emancipation and then going one step further as the kind of bone to the radical republicans -- what will become the 13th amendment, abolishing slavery in the united states forever. >> that is another fight that the democrats try to latch onto is the states versus national rights, because you are putting in an amendment and you are taking away the states power to choose what they want to do for their own people and putting

too.n theitre show that theigns confederacy is losing all the good officers. one, notas the last necessary competent, but could do something, and the union is starting to get sheridan, sherman, all these people coming to the forefront. charles: they even lose mcpherson. he was killed in the atlanta campaign, right? howard's steps in and takes his army. andunion is developing more more good leaders, experienced leaders, battle hardened leaders they can count on. together, this starts mcpherson writes in retrospect the victory at mobile bay suddenly took on new importance as the first blow of a lethal 1-2 punch. , mobilekind of string bay, atlanta, sheridan in the valley, starts to convince people that the war has turned in favor of the union, and so as the new york times proclaims in its election edition 1864, glorious result for abraham lincoln. lincoln wins the election. uniquee some of the things about this election of 1864? >> i think the biggest one is allowing soldiers to vote. the union makes a very serious effort to make that happen, to get absentee bal

you are the museum of the confederacy. yes, i get that a long time ago you stopped being the museum for the confederacy, i have known that since the early 1990's when i started doing work for the organization. i could not wrap my head around this. above all, it was my intention that we would do our job, that give it thefact consideration we would any other artifact being offered. and that's what we did. we spent several months. we follow the protocols. the team made its recommendation to the full board. discussion was the first monument controversy i've ever been in in my life. beginning,id at the it was really quite constructive, listening to these -- these men and women have, yes, at times passionate discussion about whether or not the museum should accept it. what could we do if we did accept it? what was the expectation of a donor if we did accept it? all very valid questions. which the staff spent a considerable amount of time working through. as we were preparing for the that it was clear to me this was not going to

the cam is that were produced confederacy -- propelled the confederacy to a number of victories. primaryne of the engines of the city. history.has a lot of we are in richmond virginia. they, we are focusing on flag collection. this is the largest collection of civil war related lies in the world. we have more than 700 flags. civil war eraare flags. a majority are confederates. the confederate states of america formed in march of 1861. one of the first orders of business was to select a design for the national flag. the flight we are looking at here is an example of that flight pattern. this is known as the first national flag because the better said this confederacy would go through three different designs. very reminiscent of the united states national flag. that was done on purpose. many southerners served in the united states. there was strong affection for the old union. they didn't want to the blue dispense with the emblems of the united states. rather than having 13 stripes, they had three, red, white, red. werese southern states leaving the union and joined the confederacy

." >> wilmington's importance was so great that it became known as the life line of the confederacy. >> visit what remains of fort fisher which was once the largest fort in the confederacy. >> this was the largest amphibious operation undertaken by the united states up until june 6 of 1944 which was the invasion of france. >> and tour missile defenses on the uss north carolina. >> it is the official memorial to the veterans of north carolina from world war ii. i am just awe struck with what was accomplished in 1940 in terms of technology, training, dedication to the mission. you can say the last war that everybody agreed on. >> watch c-span's city tour of wilmington, north carolina. working with our cable affiliates and visiting cities across the country. >>> and we are live on capitol hill this morning as the house judiciary committee is hearing and chief judge thomas will be testifying on work load and challenges facing the 9th circuit court. t live coverage should start momentarily. >>> we are live on capitol hill where the house judiciary committee is meeting to discuss work load

it was the lifeline of the confederacy. this was a main artery of supply for robert e lee. so much so that by 1863 wilmington must be defended at all hazards. by late 1864, late 1864, he said if wilmington falls i cannot maintain my army. confederates got good intelligence with the attack of wilmington was coming by october of 1864. they knew that the attack was planned against fort fisher and so fort anderson's garrison was largely depleted to send reinforcements to fort fisher. you might have had a company or two of troops here, there would be to attacks on fort fisher. one christmas of 1864 that turned out to be the largest naval bombardment of the civil war but the fight on the fort which is the largest strongest battery was largely diffused and ineffective. the army that had gone ashore approach the fort, saw the defenses were still strong, the cannons and the court still pointing up the ground through which the army would have to attack so they at aborted the mission. confederates were victorious. two and a half week later they returned with a slightly force, more sol

the people who were more dedicated seem to be more accepted in the confederacy. not all of these women were slaveholders but a large percentage of them were. they got into this middle-class wealthy women, there was these working-class women who nursed greater they had a tendency to do it because they needed money. where as the women who are truly dedicated in the south tended to pro-confederate raider they were deep into the cause. them had a tough time with hospital care. there was a very famous woman who was a volunteer at a wayside hospital. were created at train depots to take care of men who are moving that conflict between the home front and the war. they were really important to medical institutions a lot of need tolt a patriotic donate their time and volunteer their time at these institutions. these women are not going to be seeing major wounds cannot they had a really difficult time with it. she had bad dreams when she came home, it was that something she liked seeing, it was not an easy thing to see. she was guilt stricken in effect that this was diffic

so, this was incredibly important for the confederacy. during the war of 1812, there was a battery here. but nothing was truly built in april south seceded 1861. they came down here and started building fort fisher. they built supplies for confederate forces, whether they be civilian or military. this was the primary fort for most blockade runners for confederate goods. when they got into wilmington they could offer to trains and they could get into richmond. as the ships approached the , they werearea posted all across the river. johnston, fort anderson, which is three miles upriver. you had a number of batteries that were all over the area. that was all meant to try to keep the union fleet from sailing up the cape fear river like they had done at new orleans where they ran into the mouth of everything. when fort fisher was first , therected or started was not a lot of organization to this. they had not thought about the basis of the fortification. it started as a series of five gun placements. they were not interconnected. they were not

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largest bombardment of the civil war, but the firemen on the port which is the largest, strongest confederacy coast fortifications largely ineffective. so the army saw the defense was still strong, the gannets in the fort still pointing up the ground across which army would have to attack so they aborted. the confederates were victorious. victorious. two and a half weeks later they returned with a slightly scaled-down navy task force, more soldiers understand there were determined to capture the fort. after two and half days of bombardment, the second largest naval bombardment in civil war, union ground forces attacked laten the afternoon of january e confederate defenders. outgunned, outmanned, exhausted they put up a good fight but te fort spell that night. and then the union forces turned their gunfights river to capture wilmington. general braxton bragg to his departmental commander abandoned the forts at the mouth of the river and with drew them to fort anderson. that's when the most soldiers were in fort anderson during the war. there were about 2300 confederate soldiers, about 4500 con

washis transit route incredibly important for the confederacy. during the war of there was a 1812, battery here. but nothing was truly built until the south seceded in april 1861. they came down here and started building fort fisher. they built supplies for confederate forces, whether they be civilian or military. this was the primary fort for most blockade runners for confederate goods. when they got into wilmington they could offload their supplies onto trains and they could directly head north to richmond. as these ships approached wilmington or the cape fear area, there were a series of defensive fortifications that were actually posted all along the river. fort fisher being the largest of all the forts. anderson, which is about three miles of river. you had a number of batteries that were all over the area. you had obstructions in the river. that was meant to keep the union feet from sailing up the cape air river like it had done at new orleans where they ran into the mouth of everything in sales past the defensive positions. was april 1861.

performance is so great that it became known as lee's lifeline and eventually the lifeline of the confederacy. >> at sunday at 2:00 p.m. eastern on american history tv. visit what remains of fort fisher, once the largest fort in the confederacy. >> this is the largest amphibious operation undertaken by the united states up until june 6th of 1944, which was the invasion of france. >> and tour missile defenses on the battle ship uss north carolina. >> the uss north carolina is the official memorial to the veterans of north carolina from world war ii. i am just awe struck with what was accomplished in 1940 in terms of technology, training, dedication to the mission. you can say the last war that everybody agreed on. >> watch c-span cities tour of wilmington, north carolina saturday at noon eastern on c-span 2's book tv. and sunday afternoon at 2:00 p.m. on american history tv on c-span 3. working with our cable affiliates and visiting cities across the country. >>> a live look on capitol hill where a house judiciary subcommittee meeting is about to get under way. lawmakers will hear from four la

just what this man's attitude was toward the confederacy and its people. sherman simply did not want to go into -- go back into fighting a war of maim and blood. but he couldn't remain in atlanta. he had to do something. o he planned and this took place over a period of time to institute a new form of warfare, to institute destructive war against the confederacy. and how was he going to do that? by marching to the sea. lincoln and grant were not in favor of this, but sherman quickly wore them down, began his march from atlanta to the sea, on november 14, 1864. one of the things i want to point out if you remember nothing else about my part of it, i know you'll remember everything craig said. but my part of it, i want you to remember that this is not an example of sherman's work. he did not burn atlanta down. he didn't do it. we can talk about it afterwards if you'd like. but the lost cause would have us believe that's what happened. this was actually created by john bell hood when he set fire o atlanta. he set fire to ammunition of atlanta and explosions h

wilmington impotence was so great and a lifeline of the confederacy. sunday at two pm eastern and american history tv. visit what remains of fort fisher which was once the largest port in the confederacy this was the largest amphibious operation up until june 6, 1944 which was the invasion of france. >> toward the missile defenses of the battleship us north carolina. >> the official memorial to the veterans of north carolina from world war ii and i am just awestruck with what was accomplished in 1940 in terms of technology, training, dedication to the mission and you could say the last war that everybody agreed on watch c-span city store wilmington north carolina saturday noon eastern at c-span two book tv and sunday afternoon on american history to be. >> working with our cable affiliates and visiting cities across the country. next our interview with congressman scott perry a pennsylvania republican he discusses the 2018 federal budget and the rest interference in the elections. from the washington journal to say half hours. want to welcomee scott pe

peace reigned in the form of confederacy. at least for a while. despite the grant administration's effective response, the north's commitment to reconstruction waned during the 1870's. many radical leaders, including thaddeus stevens, who had died in 1868, had passed from the scene. within the republican party, their place was taken by politicians less committed to the ideal of equal rights for blacks. many northerners felt that the south should be up to solve its own problems without constant interference from washington. the federal government had freed the slaves, made them citizens, given them the right to vote and crushed the ku klux klan. now blacks should rely on their own resources, not demand further assistance from the -- north. other factors we can northern support for reconstruction. plunged the country into a severe economic depression. distracted by the nation's economic problems, republicans were in no mood to develop further attention to the south. congress did enact one final piece of civil rights legislation, the civil rights act

when it came to racial matters, but they might thatlling to accept emancipation could weaken the confederacy. the decision weight on him, as northern governors. he stood behind his emancipation venture, but it was time to go public, he thought, with a move against the confederates and abandon a conciliatory approach. perhaps we are doing as well as other states, one governor but itout to lincoln, nearly drives me mad when i see the american army is running before a generation of scandal some american liberty almost prostrate. god only knows if the president will ever burst his bonds of border stages of, but the people are somehow blessed with an instinct of faith, before whom, i believe, mountains will move. move mountains, but he yielded to rhode island governor william sprague, who suggested that new england .overnors meet to discuss war i amote to andrew -- heartily sick and tired of any double policies, he declared to a war meeting in newport. no white glove handling will do this, he claimed. we must strike the enemy and his vital parts, wherever those were. [laughter] wanted to sprague

this is what remains of fort fisher, which was once the largest port in the confederacy. >> this whichhe largest amphibious operation undertaken by the united states up until 1944, which was the invasion of france. >> and to the defenses on the uss north carolina. >> the uss north carolina is the official memorial to the veterans of north carolina from world war ii. i am just awestruck with what was accomplished in 1940. in terms of technology, training, dedication to the mission. you can say the last war that everybody agreed on. program onspan's north carolina saturday at noon eastern on c-span's to book tv. on sunday afternoon at 2:00 p.m. on american history tv on -- c-span3. next, white house budget director mick mulvaney answering reporters questions on the president's proposed budget. the epa and state would see the largest cuts. the defense

the confederacy is still around. germany are still around. they killed martin luther king inking they would stop the civil rights movements. that did not stop anything. this is an idea, not the person or anything you can kill off with bombs, guns or nuclear weapons. .uest: i agree with the caller killing the man is not like killing the idea. bin laden has been did five itrs, now six years, and changes the discussion after his death, between arab spring, the death of bin laden and other leaders of al qaeda, it looked like jihadism would have been the second problem but that was wrong. faith to someof of these and we can make a it willl rule which is be whether it suffices al qaeda or other right minded groups, so countries like libya or syria, youave got a strong presence. that goes ck to what i was underlyingch is the political problems that cause isis have not gotten away. if iraq continues to be a place where sunnis feel excluded, and syria is a place where they continued to be threatened by assad, if muslims are not integrated better in eu

serveds an important trade route during the civil war and was the last atlantic seaport of the confederacy until it fell to union troops in 1865. today, wilmington has a

eventually the lifeline of the confederacy. >> on sunday, 2:00 p.m. eastern on american history tv, visit what remains of fort fisher, once the largest fort in the confederacy. >> this was the largest amphibious operation undertaken by the united states up until june 6th of 1944, the envision of france. >> toward the missile defenses on the battleship uss north carolina. >> the u.nited states north carolina this is official memorial to the veterans from world war ii. i am just awe-struck with what was accomplished in 1940 in terms of technology, training, dedication to the mission. you could say the last war that everybody agreed on. >> watch c-span city store, wilmington, north carolina, saturday at noon eastern on c-span's book tv and saturday afternoon at 2 p.m. working with our affiliates across the country. >>> coming up tonight we will bring you two house judiciary committ committees. first restructuring the ninth circuit court of appeals. they overturned president trump's immigration order last month and then on sexual abuse cases. first, an up

vwhich said that those jurisdictions that have been covered, most of those had been in the old confederacy, a fewothers outside and later, n fact, had tohave their any changes that affected voting in any way, had to have thoselaws pre-cleared. that could be done by the justice department or by a federal washington, d.c. three-judge panel and things. so, that wasan extraordinarily important in changing the southover time. well, the formula had not been revised,as i believe75, was that? 1975. although there was a huge amount , of testimony inthe renewal of the voting rights act, only in 2006, in support of it.and commerce was almost unanimous in support of it. but in fact, thesupreme court , found that section iv, which was the formula,was no longer relevant and it is a very different. court, in upholding in the 1966,the voting rights act and the roberts courtsaid that states should not be treated different. whereas the warrencourt was concerned about the rights for people to vote. i think it is a major shift,that's going on there. ruth bader ginger burke -- ginsburg did one of those great d

they're trying to understand is honor within the ranks of the confederacy. they're looking back to the early migrations in the colonial period trying to make sense of how people behaved in the 1860's. thelachia, which absorbed majority of scots i were in the colonial and revolutionary period and who were isolated before the revolutionary war with at the heart of these studies. similar model for appalachian development. david hackett fischer's stressing the culture in both appalachian and southern cultured society. identified for things established that was central to the later development of the united states. for our purposes we will focus on one, the herder that predominated the appalachian south. this was a culture established by the north british as they were dubbed by hackett fischer. from northumbria and the scottish borders. shares manyment with the celtic south model but is nuanced in several points. he avoids highland romanticism and gives credit to northern english migrants. south is a historical construct, a sort of usable path for those who embra

i think as well that vicksburg is argued that they cut the confederacy and a very substantial way almost in half with the mississippi river. the interesting thing is that chattanooga, the capture of it also sliced because of the railroads and river another part of the confederacy in half. as aally, more importantly future, we will not get into this now, looking into the future, the capture of chattanooga was made possible by sherman's atlantic campaign. guye he fought against some named joseph johnson. >> you are giving away the ending. way for theen the atlantic cap playing -- campaign. >> let's stick chronological if we can. actually we are not going to state chronological or. painting.james walker this and about why the army moved on. >> if you go to chattanooga today, in the civil war you will ist to go to a place that not that far away. it was a very particular place because what happened was that a outmaneuvered the confederate commander to the point that he was in a good situation close to chattanooga. whatever elsedo needed to be done. the strange thing, one of the acts of war ha

these are books that have shown that a lot of the reaction beginning in the confederacy but certainly in southern laws passed during reconstruction and beyond, where ways of controlling gender, ways of controlling the lives of women, keeping women domestic, keeping women at home, on the plantation, on the farm, and so on. there was a certain domestication to law during reconstruction and beyond. as edna says, there is a lot of good work out there that shows that. on the level of rights, voting rights, it is a huge battle. of course, the struggle for women's suffrage did not succeed until the early 20th century. it is also an interesting case of one example of where the right to vote succeeded first at the state level. sometimes there are things that happen because of states ights. t depends on which side of the battle you are on. certain states passed women's suffrage before the federal amendment. >> including new york state. professor foner: as david mentioned, this was a period of a bitter dispute between people who were allies before -- the leaders of the women's suffrage movement

montgomery, alabama, the first capital of the confederacy, has lots of confederate monuments. the just a few years ago, a group called the equal justice initiative directed something different, a historical marker entitled "warehouses used in the slave trade." it reminds us with the confederate states of america really was about. the domestic slave trade was a far -- was far bigger than the legendary underground railroad. 1850's, nouring the more than 1000 to 2000 slaves successfully followed the north star to freedom. during that same year, however, 100,000 slaves or more were sold and bought across the south. but we choose instead to emphasize the upside, and so we celebrate the underground railroad and we put. tubman on the $20 bill. my book raises questions about uplifting national mythology. it also runs contrary to conventional wisdom as defined by many of my professional colleagues, some of whom are here today. they see a north that did endanger the south, a south that knew it was in danger and reacted rationally, and runaway slaves who did much to bring the sectional c

the confederacy. and howyou see that, did you decide what to do? i was just doing my job. it came up in committee, my staffers reviewed the bill, my staffers name was jeff gibbs, a lawyer in california now. we were going over the bills that were coming up and he's rattling off and he says senator, this patent for olestra , the fat substitute, he says this has a confederate flag attached to it. and i'm going what? how did this happen? we found that the confederate flag patent that had been held by the united daughters of the confederacy had been renewed twice before. they had it since the 1920's. i'm saying to myself -- what do need a patent for on a flag? you think in terms of copyright if anything, but not patent. i went to the chairman of the committee and said this part is not acceptable. number one, this confederate flag doesn't belong on a bill. it doesn't belong in a patent to begin with. second, it doesn't belong on this bill. third, i cannot in conscience support it, and i would like your help

wilmington's importance was so great that it became known as lee's lifeline and the lifeline of the confederacy sunday at 2:00 p.m. eastern on american history tv, visit what remains of fort fisher. was the largest amphibious operation undertaken by the united states up until june 6 of 1944, the invasion of france. >> and tour the missile defenses on the uss north carolina. >> the uss north carolina is the official memorial to the veterans of north carolina from world war ii. i am just awestruck with what was accomplished in 1940 in terms of technology, training, , theation to the mission last war everybody agreed on. ofwatched c-span's city tour wilmington, north carolina. that is on saturday on book tv and s

took a long time to decide whether or not to secede from the union and subsequently joined the confederacy. we are standing in the room where virgin is ultimately change their minds and voted to secede from the union. once that decision was made, the confederate congress was brought to richmond from alabama and for the next four years, between july of 1861 through march of 18 625, the virginia state capitol was multitasking. it hosted the ongoing meetings of the virginia assembly and the activities of our state governors, but it also posted simultaneous meetings that hosted simultaneous of the congress, the american civil war camp are dramatic and in virginia right here at richmond. in spring of 1865. the confederate government decided on the second of april to evacuate the city and the virginia state government made the same decision. they both pulled up stakes and left richmond in a hurry. in the confusion of these evacuations of the confederate government and the virginia state government, orders were given to military authorities to set selected fires at government warehouses to destro

for example, names of state buildings or names of counties which are associated with the confederacy. and he said if we have to remove the flag why don't we have to rename all of those buildings? mr. moore did not seem to be particularly bothered. he said i don't visit some of those locations so it doesn't particularly bother me. that is the problem here is what symbols -- >> isn't a flag at least in part supposed to represent the people? so mississippi flag should represent the people of the state of mississippi. do you agree? disagree? >> i agree that the flag represents the -- the flag is an embodiment of what has evolved over a period of time. different people describe different meanings to it. different people object -- >> i am asking you whether or not it is supposed to represent the people of the state of mississippi. is that what it is supposed to do? >> here today i cannot speak to what the flag is supposed to mean. i do think the answer is it means different things to different people. as mr. moore was not bothered by other symbols associated with mississippi's past, other p

of the confederacy. >> sunday at 2:00 p.m. eastern on american history tv, visit what remains of fort fisher. was the largest amphibious operation undertaken by the united states up until june 6 of 1944, the invasion of france. >> and tour the missile defenses on the uss north carolina. >> the uss north carolina is the official memorial to the veterans of north carolina from world war ii. i am just awestruck with what was accomplished in 1940 in terms of technology, training, , theation to the mission last war everybody agreed on. ofwatched c-span's city tour wilmington, north carolina. that is on saturday on book tv and sunday on c-span3 on american history tv. >> "washington journal" continues. host: joining us now, representative marco can --mark pocan. the congressional progressive caucus first vice chair. good morning. guest: good morning. host: the house budget committee 's meeting on the republicans budget. what are the questions that need to be asked on the financial side? guest: i still wonder why they are even callin

the confederacy is still around. germany are still around. they killed martin luther king inking they would stop the civil rights movements. that did not stop anything. this is an idea, not the person or anything you can kill off with bombs, guns or nuclear weapons. .uest: i agree with the caller killing the man is not like killing the idea. bin laden has been did five itrs, now six years, and changes the discussion after his death, between arab spring, the death of bin laden and other leaders of al qaeda, it looked like jihadism would have been the second problem but that was wrong. faith to someof of these and we can make a it willl rule which is be whether it suffices al qaeda or other right minded groups, so countries like libya or syria, you have got a strong presence. that goes back to what i was underlyingch is the political problems that cause isis have not gotten away. if iraq continues to be a place where sunnis feel excluded, and syria is a place where they continued to be threatened by assad, if muslims are not integrated better i

identity associated with mississippi history, names of state buildings or counties associated with the confederacy and he said if we have to remove the flag why not rename the buildings? mr. moore said i don't visit some of those buildings or locations so that doesn't particularly bother me. that is the problem here. what symbols -- >> isn't a flag supposed to, in part, represent the people? the mississippi flag represents the people of the state of mississippi? you agree? disagree? >> i agree that the flag represents -- the flag is an embodiment of what has evolved over a period of time. different people whether they be african or non african-american -- >> you are telling me what people ascribe. i am asking whether or mnot it s supposed to represent the people of mississippi? >> i appear on behalf of the governor and i cannot speak to what the flag is supd to mean. i think it means different things to different people. just as mr. moore was not bothered by other symbols associated with mississippi's past others may be equally bothered by those things that he is bothered by the flag. >> have you

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mississippi's history, for example the names of state buildings or counties associated with the confederacy. if we have to remove the flag, why do we not have to rename all of those buildings? mr. moore did not seem to be particularly bothered. he said he does not visit those locations. flag at least in part supposed to represent the people of the state of mississippi? do you agree, disagree? >> i agree that the flag -- the flag is an embodiment of what has evolved over a period of time. people ascribe different meanings to it. i am asking whether or not it is supposed to represent the people of the state of mississippi. is that what is is supposed to do? >> i am here on behalf of the governor. i can't seek to what the flag is supposed to mean. it means different things to different people. was notmr. more bothered by other symbols of mississippi's past, other may be equally as bothered by those things that he is by the flank. was not bothered by other symbols of >> are you familiar with the maryland flag? describe the maryland flag. >> if it is the one i'm thinking of, it has a multitude o

found refuge in the union armies, we're still talking enslavedthan 5% of the population of the confederacy. contrabande of such on northern soil actually generated serious racist reaction in the north. any pressure the contraband's were exerting were liable to move in the opposite direction. there is also a legal catch lurking behind self emancipation thesis. it can be called the shawshank illusion. in this example, it refers to the movie. the closing scene shows morgan freeman who has jumped the terms of his probation striding happily toward his prison inmate friend tim robbins who had escaped from jail in one of the more sensational version of cinematic jailbreak. arecharacters at the end currently gloriously free on a beach in mexico. they are not. whatever the illusion conjured up by the movie, they are simply fugitives. they can be arrested, extradited, re-imprisoned at will. they cannot own property, they cannot enjoy civil standing. slaves were likewise free only defect oh. that escape did not confer freedom. in law, they remain fugitives and would've done so until the end of their