who want to preserve the confederacy because they are their great great great ancestors for on that side but no these people excluded their black and jewish counterparts and they kind of they are the descendants of of the confederacy and instead what they did was they marched down the streets and threw the uva campus shouting anti-semitic and anti-black epithets so it wasn't about the statue it was about hate as number one number. out as the hate and secondly the these people never knew their great great ancestors who fought in the confederacy but they do know their fathers their grandfathers past with their great grandfathers who fought in world war two against the nazis so you're going to honor your great aunts your great great ancestors and disgrace your closer in ancestors by marching down the streets of people when swastikas the same people our fathers and grandfathers fought against and profit lost their lives against. there are going to be people a many people i've seen a critique on your philosophy and it's quite sharp in that you're spending so much time working with. white

the confederacy and became a museum about the confederacy. i've known that since i started doing work for the organization. but i couldn't wrap my head around this thing. and again, it was really more about the way it was handled. but above all, it was my intention that we would do our jobs, that we would, in fact, give it the consideration we would any other artifact that was being offered to us. and that's what we did. we, again, spent months, we followed the protocols and the team made its recommendation to the full board. and that discussion was the first monument controversy i've ever been in in my life. and i said at the beginning it was really quite instructive listening to these men and women have, yes at times, very passionate discussion about whether or not the museum should accept it. what could we do if we did accept it, what was the expectation of the donor if we accepted it. all very valid questions that the staff had spent a considerable amount of time working through. as we were preparing for the vote, it was clear to me that

this is a an iron works for the confederacy. this is the place where the confederacy made so many iron mints. a statue to lincoln was placed. at this public site that's now owned and operated by the national parks service. what does this monument say to you guys? >> not really grand. >> what do you mean. >> it's on top of a pedestal looking out over everybody. >> okay so it's very different than the lee statue. right? that we have talked about already. and even different than the arthur ash statute. which arthur ash is he's holding a tennis racket and books. with a bunch of kids looking up to hem. trying to get i don't know taking his racket away. i'm not sure exactly. lincoln is sitting. who's he sitting with? do you guys know? this is his son, tad. okay, so it's not this is not very much like the lee statue. what else do you notice? >> the inscription to binds up the nations winds. i guess the paralleling lincoln's emancipation of slaves and the tieing up the ends of the civil war with trying to recon texize this and put into

the vice president of the confederacy weeks after it was founded. but of course, i am sure many of the people who say they don't have a racist bone in her body but are waving these flags have not heard that speech, or try to say that doesn't represent the confederacy or doesn't present me. ultimately what i wanted to show with this book. it shows itself with the symbols as well, people have purposefully built these monuments, purposefully produced these ideas to manipulate us into believing they are not the problem and their policies are not the problem, but black people are the problem. people are the problem, people are inferior and that is why black people are enslaved because they should be enslaved, black people are impoverished because they don't want to work, they created these ideas because the alternative is for us to look at racial inequality and say that is abnormal and why is this? for us to start looking for the discriminatory policies to create that any quality and for us to challenge those policies and those who are benefiting from di

he is finding the bright star of the confederacy. he has no military background before the war, john brown gordon. he was one of those men with a genius for war he had been a , lawyer and a newspaper man. when john gordon puts on a uniform he finds it. that he finds his metier. he is closest in some ways to grant. grant was not meant to do anything else after he became a successful politician and so forth. but lee task gordon to come up to punch through the and just punish them, disrupt armies so much in the potomac so badly unsettled grant so much, just to buy enough time to leave, move out and get north carolina. davis,s time, president of the confederacy would not listen to the. lee was trying to warn him saying, i cannot hold out much longer. davis felt like welcome i have heard all of this before. so when it did collapse, richmond was not ready. gordon, does his very best, and lee gives him control of about half of the army of northern virginia for this attack on fort hedman. of the union lines at fort stedman, just south of the

and that happened all over the confederacy. little towns have confederate monuments usually in front of the courthouse, but the same on and on as you have in the north. and usually the inscriptions on them get at the idea of overwhelming odds, of fighting for high constitutional principle, often specifically state rights against an encroaching federal government. go read the one in front of -- county courthouse. you get state rights, you get -- so it's a kind of duly memorial landscape in many ways that you get after the war. and the lost cause puts up many, many, many monuments. they also wrote just as people who embraced the union cause or those who embraced the emancipation cause. one of the great examples of emancipation cause writing was a by a, three volume study senator named henry wilson who was from massachusetts who wrote on the rise and fall of the slave power, the third volume of which deals with the war. but the confederates do a lot of writing, and they prove quite successful at getting their version of the war in

on thew where i stand confederacy. unless they are actually planning violence or are saying because of our views, we are going to hurt someone, that is when free speech stops. when they are actually planning violence. as far as believing in the confederacy, i think that is objectionable, that they should not be not allowed to speak that. that is what this country is about. just like somebody on the left, some alike bernie sanders or more to the left can say we need a political revolution. the entire u.s. government is broken, and we need to replace people. we have anarchists who say the government should be politically toppled. that is ok. you are allowed to believe crazy things in this country as long as your craziness is not going to hurt someone. if we say because this person's views are offensive, they cannot speak, that will apply to both sides. what happens when your own views, which are pretty reasonable, someone says they are offensive? i believe in federalism. i believe states should have power to fix their ow

and during the time of the confederacy, the confederacy -- the confederate leaders were like northerners are to blame. they're the reason why you're impoverished, speaking to five million poor whites, right? they are the ones to blame, right? you should, of course, identify with us. along the same token, we have a south in which there is similarly, again, all this inequality, and you have southern leaders that, no, we are not to blame even though they're in power, right? the northerners are to blame. those protesters are to blame. and so, you know, these confederate monuments are not just symbolizing inequality, they're also symbolizing the fact that these southern confederate leaders to who most of whom are white men do not want to be blamed for the problems of that society. they want to be honored. they want to be championed like those confederate leaders were even though they were the very cause of those problems. >> but it's not without irony that people walking through the campus of uva, university that was founded by thomas jefferson, lived right down the road in monticello, lived

those men have stuck it out for high fairytaleme of confederacy. i say to you, sir, emphatically, to prolong this struggle is murder, and the blood of every man killed this day forth is on your head. while others had approached him to cautiously raise the prospect of surrender, no man had dared to speak to him so directly. waving his hand in annoyance, lee said, don't talk so wildly. i bear burdens enough. he grasped for words. what would the country think of me if i did what you suggest? wise spat, country be damned. ain't no country. you are the country to these men. they fought for you. this armyou held together, nothing else. even now, you ask them to die for you, and they will, as will i, for that i am. now, no man,his no decent man will ever gainsay you. i repeat, the blood of every man killed hereafter is on your head alone. for a time, lee could not respond. wise stood there waiting, unmercifully. the silence endured until the arrival of -- at which lee said, i shall excuse myself. i have pressing affairs." that is what i am trying to do wi

developed mostly in the eighteen ninety's and then a little bit after that which glorified the confederacy romanticize slavery and basically tried to write slavery out of the history of the civil. even to the point where you are right that they will claim that there were blacks fighting i mean because of course figures like nathan bedford forrest took his slaves with him. for the writer see but unfortunately if you go on the internet today you can find websites devoted to the blacks fighting in the confederacy but this is a myth at the there was there was certainly blacks working in the army camps every army as you well know has all sorts of civilian people working for it whether it's teamsters or laundress says or construction workers or many many other things and some people did bring this slaves along and the government impressed slaves to work for the but these are not soldiers in a combat troops the number at the very end of the war like the last month the confederacy began putting a handful of black soldiers into the army around richmond when just before it fell but around petersburg

they decided to stop playing "maryland, my maryland" at pregame performances because its pro confederacy lyrics. meagan fitzgerald went to college park to see what students have to say about the move. >> they do little dances in the middle of the field. entertaining. >> reporter: marching bands have a unique ability to instill a sense of school pride and spirit at sporting events. >> i always look forward to hearing that. >> reporter: but most students admit they don't know the history behind many of the songs they hear, especially this one. ♪ the marching band was playing the state song "maryland, my maryland" but they won't be playing it anymore until further notice, because it's considered pro-confederacy and uses the words "norer the versus. a university spokesperson says they're suspending the playing of the song to evaluate if it's consistent with their values. a lot of students say they didn't realize the band was playing the state song let alone the ties to the confederacy so it didn't bother them. now that they're aware of the history, they're pleased with the university's decis

but you know but yeah there's this mythology of the confederacy as a kind of a multi-cultural it becomes a way to deny that it was about slavery yeah it was about. and this is a myth but unfortunately like many things on the internet you can find it even though it isn't it's out there and there are people who are propagating it all right when we come back we'll hear more from professor eric foner. you're watching our. report. basically everything that you think you know about civil society has broken down. there's always going to be somebody else one step ahead of the game. we should not be. normal i think. we don't need people that think like this on our. this is an incredibly situation. the american middle class has been railroaded by washington politics. big money corporate interests a lot of voices that's in the news culture in this country now that's where i come in. i'll make sure you don't get railroaded you'll get the straight talk and the straight news. to. chris. welcome back to on contact let's get back to our conversation with professor eric foner author of battles for freedo

and we supplied the president of the confederacy and so on but especially looking at the home front there were so many different nuances and levels of dedication if you will do the confederacy, levels of dedication even to the union war effort among the african-american slaves, just , it's a very complex society at the time that really defies any attempt to put it all into one black-and-white area that we can wrap our minds around. it was so complex and so chaotic at the time that it's unreal for us really to get a glimpse of it and we haven't seen anything like this in any of our lifetimes definitely . a war being fought right here among us which is just hard for us to imagine that some of that chaos of particularly living on the homefront during wartime mississippi is very important for the people to understand. >> that's a great answer. >> i was fortunate enough to be involved in some of the planning for the new museums and one thing that kept coming up over and over again , were the stories of individuals that are going to be told in these two museums and i think it's a fascinat

the confederacy, jefferson davis was depressed. they had loaded the archives and confederate gold on trains to take it out of richmond because it looked like richmond was about to fall. the war might have been over in the spring of 1862, but as everybody knows jackson and me and the confederate counteroffensive change that, but that was the first turning point. the second one was in two. the third one was gettysburg and its -- vicksburg. the last one was sherman's capture of atlanta and other union victories in the fall of 18 six four, and lincoln's reelection. each of those collected confederate momentum, but it looks like it might be moving toward some kind of victory. the turned around. the final and turned around permanently. i would stick with that. even today 2728 years later. >> we're coming out of commemorative. of the civil war. what do you think is the great challenge for the way in which we remember the civil war? james: i guess the challenge is to continue to try to understand its impact -- it's continuing impact on ame

the agent confederacy of the six nations was pulled apart in a kind of civil war within their confederacy. it echoed that larger civil war between the colonists and the british. >> we will share with them the fruits of victory. we will bury you in the same grade. later, the battles of saratoga take place in upstate new york. we tried to use the saratoga campaign as a way to explore the experience of war for noncombatants. woman marriedman to the commander of the brunswick german troops fighting with the british, often called hessians. technically, these were brunswickers. her memoir based on her trumbull. we think of the 18th century as a glorious era with heroic soldiers with flags flying. view not the same gritty of conflict like we have for the american civil war because of the tremendous photographs. an and her diary give us opportunity to explore that experience of war. we explains it through a noncombatant marching with the army. she cared for the wounded. at one point, she was in a basement bombarded by the who thought this was a command post. using objects associated with people s

we tend to think of it as the bastion of confederate down the line for the confederacy we supply the president of the confederacy and so on but especially looking at the homefront, there were so many different nuances and levels of dedication if you will to the confederacy, levels of dedication among the african-american slaves for instance. it's a very complex society at the time that really defies any attempt to put it all into black-and-white. it was so complex and chaotic at times it's unreal for us to get a glimpse of it and we haven't seen anything like this. it's hard for us to imagine th that. it's very important for the people to understand. that is a great answer. i was fortunate enough to be involved in the planning for the museums and one thing that kept coming up over and over again were the stories of individuals that are going to be told in these two museums, and i think it is a fascinating idea. to find whatever story appeals to them. >> they've helped us in the planning for the exhibits and it's not too late. we've had a lot of help from a lot of people in that state

are monuments to the confederacy a proud part of southern history or a reminder of a racist past. mo rocca looked at both side of the question for sunday morning. >> general thomas stonewall jackson, was one of the best known commanders of the confederate army. and a virginian. so it is not a big surprise that he is memorialized here in this stained glass window at roanoke's fifth avenue presbyterian church. that is until you meet its congregation. >> good morning, fifth avenue. >> good morning. >> the stonewall jackson window has been part of this black church for 125 years. surviving a fire in 1959, that destroyed the rest of the church. >> this was a monument to the future of the african-american race. >> but third generation member, joyce bolden says the window is not about general jackson, but jackson the man. who before the war, led a bible study for his slaves. including the parents of an early pastor. >> i believe it is being memorialized for what, for what stonewall jackson was as a human being and a man of christ of faith. he defied all of the laws of, of the south, by e

it actually pull apart and was kind of a civil war within their confederacy. that echo that civil war between the british. [indiscernible] >> later in 1777, the campaign and series of battles known as saratoga takes place in upstate new york. we tried to use the saratoga campaign as way to explore the experience of war for noncombatants. , a germanybaroness woman, she was married to the brunswick german troops. fighting with the british. often called hessians. but technically, they were brunswickers. her memoir, based on her diary that she kept through the campaign is remarkable. ,it is a great reminder of the psychological trauma that can come from experiencing war. we often, because we look at those wonderful, dramatic paintings by john trumbull, we think of the 18th century as a kind of glorious era with her like soldiers, flags flying. it's not the same kind of gritty view of conflict that we have for the american civil war. so the bitterness and her diary give us the opportunity to explore that experience of war through a noncombatant, who was there, watc

. >> reporter: albert pike's statue makes no mention of his ties to the confederacy and segregation, has long called for the statue to be removed from federal park service land. washington post columnist john kelly has written about him. >> he's the only confederate general honored with a statue in washington, not for his role in the confederacy, but really for his role with the free masons. people who aren't free masons which is the vast majority of us have no idea what he really did for the free masons or what the free masons are. >> reporter: the statue sits on park service land in the d.c. hakts and was authorized by congress decades ago. >> i will be introducing a bill because the statue cannot be removed from federal property without an act of congress. >> reporter: delegate norton met today with members of the scottish right free masons who said they will not try to block the legislation. where it will go will be decided later. >> i do not believe any part of american history should be erased, not slavery, not the civil war, and this is what this statue is about. >> reporter:

jonathan: plus, symbol of the confederacy in a holy place for decades? at least until now. the big changes at the michelle: more than an hour ago hundreds of protester ace rivered at the martin luther king jr. memorial in washington, d.c. the rally still going on now is a culmination of a ten-day march from charlottesville. the march and the rally were organized by those upset over president tr last month's violence at a white nationalist's rally in charlottesville. later on this month, charlottesville will host to a concert aimed at healing. the dave matthews band, justin timberlake and ariana grande are among those expected to perform. the concert is free but people are encouraged to donate to charities benefiting victims of last month's violent crashes. jonathan: and national cathedral voted to remove -- and they charlottesville voted to remove statue of two confederate generals. it's become a flashpoint for violence that we saw last month and now national cathedral is joining the list of the groups stripping symbol of the confederacy for decades. if you look closely at

for the confederacy. he describes five men who moved south to virginia and the 1850's, joined militias, and later participated in the battle of gettysburg. this 45 minute talk was hosted by the gettysburg heritage center. tammy: good evening, everyone. my name is tammy myers, i am president here at the gettysburg heritage center, and i am thrilled to have you here in this evening. this is our final presentation this evening, and we are fortunate to have tom mcmillan. a little bit about tom -- he is an author and historian. he is a little different from our previous presenters. he is not a licensed battlefield guide. he has an interesting day job. he is the vice president of communications for the stanley cup champions pittsburgh penguins. but, his real passion is history, and especially the civil war. he serves on the board of trustees for the pittsburgh heinz history center and is on the board of directors for the friends of flight 93 and the marketing committee for the gettysburg foundation. his newest

leslie fought with the confederacy in his older brother the union. they would have seen some humor in the fact they have a monument at all. it is placed between a history museum and the brewery. ago i wrote a book about flight 93, the september 11 flight that crashed a little over 100 miles from here. i want to write a book about gettysburg but was not sure it was a fresh topic. i did not want to be the guy that wrote the 15th book on the second day, but there was one that had been tearing me right -- actually aout mile and a half down the road i measured yesterday, at the intersection with louise field road, there is an iron tablet that says went south. no one goes there. it is across the street, the peach orchard which is one of the most visited places. you can see the barn, a great injury no one goes to this place because it looks like nothing is there. you see the irregular stone foundation -- in the background you see the irregular stone foundation. john had brought this property in 1836. when you moved in, the family with larger, more children

, i think it should be in a museum because that's where the confederacy belongs. >> a lot of people when they walk by the statue wonder who he was, why is it there, what's the big fuss. >> reporter: norton said she was unsure how long to would take congress to act. in the district, tom sherwood, news 4. >> it is still not clear why the man opened fire in the fairfax office. you saw the police response unfolding live on news 4. 52-year-old john francis wood shot himself in a 4th floor law office. this is in merrifield. shoot someone else. there was a preschool in the building and they were bussed to a nearby school where their frantic parents as you can imagine rushed to pick them up. >>> a new law is taking effect in maryland this sunday. is it intended to protect victims of domestic violence? it is known as amber's law. it's named after a local woman who was killed in 2012 by her boyfriend. victims of domestic violence will be able to ask the judge to implement a gps tracking system to monitor the offenders. that device will warn victims and tell the police when the person they fear is

that i'm here to meet an heir whose ancestor became famous in defeat at the high-water mark of the confederacy. >> my name is george edward pickett v. i'm the great-great-grandson of general george e. pickett of gettysburg fame. and i never knew exactly what that would bring to my family -- fame, fortune, or dishonor. >> george -- who goes by his middle name, ed -- has invited me to his home. hi, ed. >> hi. you must be jamie. >> i am jamie. how are you today? >> i'm good. >> when the 59-year-old isn't working as a surfing instructor, ed enjoys doing yoga and playing guitar. it's a far cry from his famous great-great-grandfather who fought at gettysburg. growing up, did your family ever discuss that you had a connection to that battle? >> well, i knew about it. it was discussed briefly. i was not really that interested as a little kid. >> it's easy to understand why. ed's ancestor is best known for being on the losing side of the most pivotal battle in the civil war. >> some people said, "oh, didn't he lose? wasn't he a loser?" because that was the way that a lot of the history books talked abo

( applause ) trump also pointed out that nothing, not honoring the confederacy is a slippery slope. >> this week, it's robert e. lee. i noticed that stonewall jackson is coming down. i wonder, is it george washington next week, and is it thomas jefferson the week after? you know, you really do have to ask yourself, where does it stop? >> stephen: okay. "self, where does it stop?" i'm going to say it stops at the people who tried to destroy the country that george washington and thomas jefferson founded. but i'm just spitballing. i'm just-- that's just me. ( cheers and applause ) >> jon: i think you got it. >> stephen: i don't know. let's be fair, jon. you have to be fair, jon. >> jon: no, that's pretty fair. >> stephen: then trump continued to attack-- and i can't believe i'm saying this-- george washington. >> george washington was a slave owner. was george washington a slave owner? >> yes, he was. >> so will george washington now lose his status? are we going to take down-- excuse me. are we going to take down-- are we going to take down statues to george washington? >> stephen: spo

to one of how they were one of the most prominent irish families and the capital of the confederacy. he had a tough choice whether to stay in college back in 1861 and 1862 or go and fight in the confederacy. go and write and that regimen with his brother and father. right there we begin to personalize and humanize these people who participated in these events. for those first-time visitors that come to these places maybe they have been in that situation. to lookey had to choose at family over ideals. whatever is the case of the scenario may be. ultimately what you have done is laid the groundwork giving them ame basic information about person who experienced these events 154 years ago in july of 1863 when you set them up for wanting to discover more. counterbalance that? how do you counterbalance that i can someone who is a confederate. that seems to be kind of the opposite of that reaction. how do you think that with a broad brush? >> that is a challenge all of us have currently. >> i am going to ask you all about that. is one of the things where history is so relevant. you read som

the slaves were well-treated under the confederacy. and in fact the yankees didn't like black people as much as confederates do. that kind of reaches its apex -- it's a lost cause film in many ways. and you have the conversation between stonewall jackson and this black cook. and jackson is interviewing him, and it turns out they're both from lexington. and the words that come out of the black characters mouth, we're all in this together, and you think what does the prospective cook thinks in it for him if the confederacy wins. really, it just makes your mind drift away to something else that might make sense. and my favorite book title of all books on the civil war is stonewall jackson, colon, the black man's friend. i'm not making that up. if only the confederacy can win, at last black people can get a break. i mean that's kind of the message in here. like i said, you just can't make some things up. the bitterness that remained among some confederates is profound. here's something that gets at what former confederates actually thought

the slaves were well-treated under the confederacy. and in fact the yankees didn't like black people as much as confederates do. that kind of reaches its apex -- it's a lost cause film in many ways. and you have the conversation between stonewall jackson and this black cook. and jackson is interviewing him, and it turns out they're both from lexington. and the words that come out of the black characters mouth, we're all in this together, and you think what does the prospective cook thinks in it for him if the confederacy wins. really, it just makes your mind drift away to something else that might make sense. and my favorite book title of all books on the civil war is stonewall jackson, colon, the black man's friend. i'm not making that up. if only the confederacy can win, at last black people can get a break. i mean that's kind of the message in here. like i said, you just can't make some things up. the bitterness that remained among some confederates is profound. here's something that gets at what former confederates actually thought

it was pulled apart was actually a kind of civil war within their confederacy. that echo that civil war between the british. >> we will bury in grace. [indiscernible] >> later in 1777, the campaign and series of battles known as saratoga takes place in upstate new york. we tried to use the saratoga campaign as way to explore experience for war noncombatant. this was a germany woman, she was married to the brunswick german troops. often called hessians. these were brunswickers. her memoir base on her diary, is remarkable. as a great reminder of the kind of deep psychological trauma that can come from experiencing war. because we look at those wonderful dramatic paintings by john item ball we think of the 18th century as glorious era with soldiers. it's not the same kind of gritty view of conflict that we have for the american civil war. because of those tremendous photographs. they give us an opportunity to explore that experience of war through a noncombatant who was there marching along with the army. she cared for wounded. at one point she spent several days i

and of the confederacy would have existed of a slave society. and i also think the president of a successfular wes. secession it could cause greater secessions and movements in that of the eastern banks may be a populist republic the united states may have broken up into several different countries that was one of the fears or one of the reasons and then those refuse to except the of legitimacy it was the fatal president as one nation but nobody can say for sure what is likely to have happened. there would have been no united states so i will put you on the battlefield.have the we have the zero the monument. >> yes 1917. or the reunion. and those casualties. and the high water mark monuments. >> and all of these other layers of history. with that reconciliation and for emancipation.he groun so how do you engage your students? with this historical landscape?. >> in hearing gettysburg i'm a member of the gettysburg foundation and those that plan the new visitors' center along with scott her with the chief historian at the time and that mean concep

one of the main federal structures here in richmond richmond is locals once the capital of the confederacy and there's a huge debate underway in this city as to what to do with all the confederate started a boulevard of confederate statues here and like many other cities around the country there is a debate underway as to whether one should have in this day and age to those. who attempted to break apart the united states not only that we're attempting to defend the right to own slaves so these confederates came from tennessee and they said that they had been asked by people originally come to defend the statue because this debate is under way here as well they hung around for about maybe an hour or so then they were escorted away by the police and as we've seen since the violence in charlottesville that we saw in august when hundreds of new nazis outright for no confederates converged on that quiet city not too far away from here. you know then it was that you know most of the violence ensued in one person was killed since that whenever we hear prams confederacy or new nazis to gather they

modernized under the secretary of war, jefferson davis, who went on to become the president of the confederacy during the civil war. pierce was a lawyer. he felt slavery should be handled with an act of congress. there should be legislation permitting it. he was not -- legislation prohibiting it. a fan of it, but he was afraid he would split the country over it. his hope was to keep. the country together he understood -- keep the country together. he understood fighting the revolution was too great a country. here's trying hard -- was to create the country. itwas trying to keep together. it split when lincoln took office. the democratic party did not want him to run again. he had good accomplishments. we do not hear about those because the kansas nebraska act, which occurred at the end of his presidency, was turned into bloody kansas. it was a disaster as far as trying to achieve what it had hoped to achieve. they nominated the canon to be -- nominated buchanan to be the next candidate in the next election cycle. franklin pierce lefty presidency. they came up to him for a short time. jane was

ateast 1,500 symbols of the confederacy can be found in public spaces across the country.ccording to the southern poverty law center, most of them were built during the early decades of jim crow or in reaction to the civil rights movement -- not right after the civil war. but now, a number of the monuments are coming down. in baltimore, the city, under orders from the mayor, removed all four of its confederate statues. in durham, north carolina, protesters toppled a confederate statue after a college student named takiyah thompson climbed up a ladder and looped a rope around the top of the confederate soldiers monument. she appeared on democracy now! just before going to court. takiyah thompson: and i did this because the statue is a symbol of nationalism, and it's a symbol of white nationalism. and the type of white nationalism i'm talking about is the type of white nationalism that is sending me death threats on facebook. i'm talking about the type of white nationalist that, you know, has killed a woman in a protest. amy goodman: and the calls for the removal of the stat

daughters of confederacy pet -- put them out. he was uncle tom. the park didn't know what to do with it. they bill a wood. box. the sons and daughters of confederacy were upset because they putted wood box around it. naacp was upset because they didn't put it in the river. that seems to work well. i think for the most part that's what i would do with confederate common monuments. there were exceptions. i just saw other day that lexington, kentucky, has confederate monuments but they are on the site of a former slave market. they did it for a reason. there was good reason why we did that. i think they should be removed.ed. that is now sacred ground that does not deserve to have a confederate monument. they should be taken away. there's some particularly in my mind egregious individuals that should not have monuments. i would see them gone. like nathan bedford forest. he murdered hundreds of african-american soldiers who had surrendered at fort pillow. he became the founding member of the klu klux klan. there are more monuments to nathan bedford for

candidates for governor in virginia are sparring over the economy and the confederacy. one of the gubernatorial general elections this fall. allison barber looks at that race tonight. >> the two candidates running for virginia governor squared off at a televised debate. on the left, ralph northam. pediatric neurologist who once served in the army. on the right, ed gillespie, former chair of the rnc, counselor to president george w. bush and launched an unsuccessful bid for senate seat in 2014. the race is close with gillespie trailing northam. the leader of glaspie's party is not particularly popular among virginia voters. 53% say they disapprove of the job president trump is doing. 74% say the president is not a factor in their vote from governor. >> it's a little bit surprising. i think the polling result provides a lesson for the continuation of this campaign for the northam campaign. if he's the focus so heavily on the trump administration trying to tie ed gillespie to donald trump, it appears that's just not going to be enough to get him the governorship. >> in the