don't pretend that your implement in congress' intent when you look a what congress, a congress 60 years later would do. >> when you're remedy a gender discriminatory statute by leveling up her love again, you're never everybody congress' intent. >> that's true but you can ask what would they wanted if they knew they couldn't make this commission was that's what i thought it had to go back to 1952, they will either to take the benefit away from the woman or give it to the name. and the two principles that support is congress hates taking away benefit they did anybody. they get into a lot of trouble when you take benefits away. so that would move them in one direction. it would also move them in the same direction if you are just a handful of them who might really benefit. that's why ask that question but nobody, but if there were millions of men who might benefit and they might get a little worried about what they're doing, particularly since they're discriminating even more the other what against a married couple. so that's what i was interested in the questions. but i take it gets it p

congress had put a lot of restrictions on it and congress was hesitant to follow him but also hesitant not to follow him and try to negotiate his way through it and of course this one up to world war ii. it was a huge fight about what kind of system could lend to the british. they were intent on keeping america out of another war. >> what about the role, i think this is important point about the statute making behavior is part of the constitutional authority and many scholars have joined you in writing about, thinking about major statutes in this area as constitutional or quasi-constitutional? >> i don't know that i'd give it that label, but the constitution, we often think of the bill of rights this set of rights that's guaranteed to all of us and it certainly is that. the bill of rights came after the constitution and it was before that the charter of government and it created a congress and the legislature which was supposed to be an active participant in shaping the rules of the road and then the president was supposed to be executing those laws. so their role, particularly in warm

congress is a reflection of you. everyone sat here and talked about congress in the third person. but we are a reflection of the country. guess what, we're human. and because we're human, we react to deadlines just like each of you do in your academic professional career. deadlines to on your point are a good thing. with regard to the debt ceiling, i don't look at it as holding hostage. perhaps we wouldn't need a debt ceiling if we were a reserve currency. because we can print money out well and we are at least ugliest at the dance, the world dance, who knows if that's going to change a lot, we get away with a lot more than others do. and i think a debt ceiling -- i love the ideas and reforms that are in here. and with a bias getting spending down and your feel we will not address tax expenditures, confiscations of people's property, i would say when you look at the debt ceiling, it is near vertical. i would love to see your numbers. i disagree you can tax people enough -- yeah you can tax people enough to stabilize the debt for the next couple of years, but not ultimately. in fac

each and each interaction with congress will be some sort of negotiated result about how can congress get what it needs without damaging the executive, you know, essential functions as the executive branch sees them. so you know, there is a cynical side to this, you know, congress can help upend status quo of executive having documents by suggesting they are entitled to them as a legal process like you would see in a court. that's certainly within the self-interest of congress to do so and certainly within the self-interest of the executive branch to suggest -- to protect the status quo of not giving our documents over the "know" and no." but i also think there is generally held views within the two branches going back across administrations of divot parties that are about how the constitution structure works. it is not just a cynical exercise. it is a genuinely held belief by people at the department of justice and other departments in the executive branch that that is a much more negotiated result than a legal process that is supposed to be fixed as an entitlement. that's just one p

i think the court could look at what congress would do today and what congress has done in the decades since. >> did you find any case which supports that? >> no, i haven't. >> any case against it? >> no case for or against it. >> well you're, going to find lots of cases when we address this question that talks about the intent of the congress that passed the statute, i think. >> certainly there are plenty of cases on that, mr. chief justice. >> and i don't think there are any, you found one and anyone can find one when we're look agent a question of congressional intent on a question of this, we look at what a congress 60 years later would have thought. >> is that true? is that true of say wescott when they -- the category was unemployed father and it was enlarged to include unemployed mothers? was it true of the social security cases? when what congress did when it did it was just a piece with everything where man was the dominant person in the family, and the woman was the subordinate person. so to say we want to go back to a congress that had that mind-set and ask what they would h

i think if the court would look at what congress would do today and what congress has done in the decades since. >> do you find any case that supports -- >> no, i haven't. >> find any case against it? >> no case for or against it. >> you'll find lots of cases when we address this question that talks about the intent of the congress to pass the statute, i think. >> certainly there are plenty of cases on that, mr. chief justice -- >> i don't think there are any, you haven't found one and i don't think anyone could find one that would say when we're looking at a question of congressional intent and a question of this, we look at what a congress 60 years later would have thought. >> if we were looking at -- >> is that true? is that true of, say, wes scott hen they, the category was employed father and it was enlarged to include unemployed the s or is it true, social security cases when what congress did when it did it is just a piece with everything where the man was the dominant person in the family and the woman was the subordinate person. so to say you want to go back to a congress that ha

as with congress to declare war. and for many reasons but one of them which i don't think it is known as well but then is scared of the signal it would send it to the world and why was that? there was another declared war but before either of those was declared but by the time transix is in correa it appears that he and those around him said that signal that will send to china about what kind of conflict this is, is the signal we may not want to send. said they had an incentive to downplay that operation operation, not to associate could do what he wants but as the matter of global policy that is a police action not they just want to do what congress tells me but i don't want the world to see the so think of that is what happens. that is just another way in context that they had failed logic in keeping up with that constitutional system was vietnam's a war? answer that descriptive flee and then as a constitutional scholar. >> there is a book called the vietnam war. and i think if you view it been this in is hard to s

>> via their congress passes a law is a problem. congress doesn't pass laws. they don't legislate. they delegate. they allow these administrators, the people who nobody have voted for an congress tells them you write the rules. you make the laws. they give them a very vague aspiration. we want clean air or no discrimination in the lab as experts to make the rules to make the laws. congress what they do for the most part if it back and intervene in individual cases where constituents get in trouble with agencies called the constituent service which is much more help in getting a lack did and it's a lot easier than the hard job of making policy choices. the whole problem is congress to legislate. it's not doing its fundamental constitutional job. >> has the increase in the bureaucratic state that an explicit, implicit, hasn't been slow? >> it has come in waves and want to. the first great oeste this was in the progressive era 100 years ago. woodrow wilson who was a political scientist before he was resident had a theory about giving america a new style administrative state. the bigge

it should be understood that it is constitutional for congress to have -- congress has the same self-protection that the courts have, and the analogy is appropriate. and i think that the next time that there is a refusal to bring a contempt of congress to a grand jury, there should be a resolution that authorizes both an inherent contempt at the same time that there is a criminal contempt, and that the supreme court, in morrison versus olson, will come and support it, that there should be an injunction, because there is only -- what the justice department is saying is really that there is a conflict of interest because their client is the president and also the executives. justice department in such situation has rules which says if we do have a conflict of interest we'll appoint a special prosecutor, either somebody within the department of justice who is walled off or somebody private like an independent counsel. both of those should be looked at because there needs to be leverage here. this is all about politics. that's what it is. and congress has had it and needs to revive it and not go to

here i am in congress. suppose you were an adviser to the congress and the congressman said, okay, i don't like this idea of going to the limits of article 3. i think we should limit it. you say, no worries, just use the same language. and he says, use the same language? that has been consistent understood to go to the limitings of article 3. you say, don't worry, it's edictthe a. wouldn't you be fired? >> your honor, i think i would be fired if i did the what you said, what is not follow what this court has required, express negation of the zone of interest test. not borrowing from some implicit doctri doctrine. the doctrine is only a guide to what congress implicitly thought. perhaps going before the aeg case. you need an suppressed negation in order to abrogate the zone of interest. >> the citizen of interest test, at least as it was announced, was understood to expand standing over what it had been before. so the zone of interest was not in standing, it was tating the ability to bring lawsuits. >> certa

it wasn't like congress were looking at mexican drug cartels, but rather, the congress was looking at, number one, the justice department in approving this, so misconduct, if you will, or recklessness in the operation itself, and two, the obstruction element that involved the justice department after the february 4th letter. so wouldn't you say that those two factors militate against a position you said by making this case quite unusual, vis-a-vis. and also, on the benghazi you said was all political. but it unearthed the secret server. so it did have -- hillary clinton's public server, that kim from that committee. and "the new york times" wrote the article on it. i would just suggest that it is not just political, in spite of the comment you referenced. there was a purpose investigate what happened there. >> benghazi, i don't recall that's the public came to know of the separate e-mail server. if you say so, but i don't recall that. as i say, you know, it appears that a lot of money and time was spent investigating a tragic death of our ambassador, and personnel in libya. without a

what exactly do you think congress should be doing? >> congress biggest and most broad power is the power of the first. believed are not congress does play a large role in education. it was agreeable and mental health care. you have to keep in mind the importance of the federal government leadership on issues. we've had many times in american history where it was the federal government those able to take the role and stand for something that's right and the principles we really stand for as a country. and powering law-enforcement to do their jobs, we can provide more mental health to fun and better training. we can provide grants and its into programs to local law enforcement for extended training, or more in depth training that will empower them to do their jobs in a way that is beneficial to both their own safety and the communities and relationship with the communities that they work with. [applause] >> i'm looking forward to that portion of the discussion where we talk about the debt. we are $20 trillion in debt and everything you

and congress could have done that if the budget committees of the congress and the congress as a whole had not increased the spending that i recommended in the budget. i'm sure you know in the resolutions passed by the congress, they have added about $17 billion in more spending by the congress over the budget that i recommended. so i would prefer in that tax bill to have an additional tax cut and a further limitation on federal spending. now this tax bill that hasn't reached the white house yet but is expected in a day or two, it's about 1,500 pages. it has some good provisions in it. it has left out some that i have recommended, unfortunately. on the other hand, when you have a bill of that magnitude, with those many provisions, a president has to set and decide if there's more good than bad and from the analysis that i've made so far, it seems to me that that tax bill does justify my signature and my approval. >> governor carter, your response? >> well, mr. ford is changing considerably his previous philosophy. the present tax structure is a disgrace of this country. it's just a wel

and in the 19th century in the old days when congress did its job, there is a concern then that congress was interfering too much in the day-to-day of government so we had problems with congress on both ends of delegating too much power and also micromanaging too much. the constitution provides a healthy balance for congress being primary but not an overwhelming part of the government. >> host: the book is called the bureaucrats kings. paul moreno of hillsdale college is the author. >> you're watching tv on c-span2 with top nonfiction book authors every weekend. tv: television for serious readers. it's three days of book tv on this veterans day weekend. 72 hours of nonfiction authors and books. here's some of what you will see. today green court justice ruth bader ginsburg recalls her tenure on the high court. alberto gonzales remembers his time in the bush administration. national book award finalist kathy o'neill examines how data algorithms impact society and you will hear about african-american women who helped propel the us in the space race. also this weekend on both tvs after word

of all the powers that weld have as congress -- this we would have as congress, i can't think of any that are more important than the power to declare war. i view that as the most important, the most difficult, the most challenging, the power that we should approach with the most sense of gravity. that is the most important thing that we should do. it should never be an easy vote. it should be a hard vote but it should be a necessary voavment i think the inablght or unwillingness of congress sends a message that'sunfortunate. it send a message of lack of resolve to allies. it might even send a message of lack of resolve to our adversary. but the thing i'm most concerned about are people like chief petty officer scott dayton, people who are serving in the theater of war who are risking their lives in the theater of war who are giving their lives in the theater of war and doing it without the knowledge that congress supports the mission that they are on. the article 1, article 2, as i claude allocation of responsibilities is not just about what's constitutional. i think it reflects a v

puleo: they are at the library of congress.s documents that are kept part of the declaration -- i am sorry, the constitution of the library of congress keeps those and eventually they did transfer them to the national archives week as they are part of the record of the united states. mr. lamb: you mentioned the gutenberg bible and the constitution and the declaration of independence and the gettysburg address. what else of importance to you consider, i mean, if you started the next rank? mr. puleo: the journals of the 'sntinental congress, madison notes, the president's papers, washington's diaries, all of these get transferred during this time. the first telegraph from morris and 18 before. -- 1824. queen victoria's message to mary todd lincoln, her condolence message on the assassination of abraham lincoln gets moved out. these of the documents. dc wasout of washington one of the original documents. mr. lamb: as we look back on a, who would you say, in order of importance, the persons that really made a difference. we spoke a

it's congress's library but it's also america's library.c-span: let's say somebody is watching and i want them to be able to walk in somewhere in this library system and say.your there carla hayden told me to come here and ask you how to see what i want to see. where would you send them? >> guest: the first thing a person should do is to go up to the wonderful information desk and talk to the person that is fair and there will be a person there. c-span: the jefferson building? >> guest: the jefferson building. they can also go in the madison building and there's an addison building so you know there's a theme with the president. they can say, i'm interested in jerry lewis films. i'm interested in bob hope. i'm interested in the information you have about rosa parks. i'm interested in finding out something about my family's history. i'm visiting from iowa and i understand that you have newspapers that trying to find my great-grandfather. when they go for that information that's where you go, that's your first of contact and that person will

>> congress passes a law, congress doesn't, they don't legislate, they delegate. they allow these people nobody has voted for, congress tell them you write the's, you make the laws, give them a very vague aspiration, one's clean-air or no discrimination or a fair railroad rate and allow those people who are supposed to be the experts to make the rules to make the laws. what they do for the most part is sit back and intervene in individual tapes were constituents get in trouble with the constituent service which is more helpful to them getting elected. easier than the hard job making policy choices and legislating for the whole problem is congress doesn't legislate, not doing its fundamental constitutional job. >> host: has the creep or increase in the bureaucratic state been explicit, implicit, slow? >> guest: in waves, the first burst in the progressive era 100 years ago, woodrow wilson who was a political scientist before he was president, giving america a new style administrative statement, the biggest thrust came with fdr after the great depression and periodi

the library of congress has the copies.id the: what public know about the movement of these documents at the time? mr. puleo: virtually nothing. they were moved in secrecy. there were folks on the receiving end at the university who knew they were getting boxes from the library of congress. they were not sure what was in them but they maintained the secret. one of the things he marvels about in his report after is ept this abody cak secret. truck drivers, packers, folks, library staffers, those who unloaded the trucks. you name it, it was not leak as part of this. mr. lamb: when did they return to washington? mr. puleo: september of 1944, so three months or so after d-day, use that as your point in history. there is little concern at that point that the germans were going to attack the main lands because they were on the run, basically as the allies moved across europe and the documents were brought back. there is one exception prior to that. the original declaration of independence is brought back on april 13, 1943 for one

for a new congress. when we talk about problems in the united states, you know, our military has gone -- been deflated back to pre-world war ii positions. we were not a superpower ar world war i. doctor after world war i. we weren't the -- after world war i. we weren't the main defender of truth, justice, freedom. but as you travel around the world, like i've mentioned in africa, where africans were saying, you know, we were so excited when you elected your first black president. but since he's been in office, we've seen america get weaker and weaker. and you've got to go back to washington and tell those people there, stop getting weaker. and this was a group of african christians. they said, you know, we all know where we're going when we die, but our only chance for peace in this life is if america is strong. so many countries like to deride us and take verbal shots. some take other kind of shots -- kinds of shots. some like to fly planes closely and mocking our ships. i'm looking forward to that happ

setoth parties in congress their leadership lineups and we are the congress -- asking our viewers todaywhat do you want to see from your members of congress when it comes to dealing with the trump administration? our phone lines are open this morning. democrats can call 202-748-8000. republicans, 202-748-8001. independents, 202-748-8002. you can also catch up with us on social media, on twitter, on facebook. good wednesday morning to you. how should congress work with president-elect trump? some comments already coming into our facebook page this morning. katie writeson -- in -- below that, john scott -- from bill kingt -- we want to hear from you come on twitter and on the phones as well. .emocrats, 202-748-8000 republicans, 202-748-8001. independents, 202-748-8002. in both chambers are holding their leadership elections, going through the process of choosing those leaders to lead them in the 115th congress. we turn to elana schor from politico. good morning to you. guest: been morning, john. -- good morning, john. host: house gop conference held their elections. they walked into a roo

you think congress, not in opposition to trump, that congress with a new president, we assert its equal role in divided government but simply to say we have that, we have been suppressed for eight years supporting the president. first the executive authority of the president and what will trump do, you think congress will take this as an opportunity to reassert its role? >> everybody around the president will have a list of executive orders. that is what the transition team is doing now, going through the executive orders and drying up a list of those that will be written off on day one. that said, i don't have any evidence, don't know of any evidence from people who covered this the donald trump has fought on this issue, the issue of presidential power or issues that are presented. it depends largely on white house counsel is, the attorney general is, what we can expect later on but day one of the executive orders, it is fairly obvious. >> i agree, my proposal would be to reverse the presumption and not go through the list of executive orders to see which ones are moved, the president

. >> host: congress passes a law. president dined there. >> guest: congress passes a law. they don't legislate, they delegate. nobody has voted for it and are not in anyway accountabaccountab le. congress tells them you read the rules. a vague aspiration or no discrimination and railroad rates. those people who make the laws. but they make for the most part if it back and intervene in individual cases for their constituents get in trouble with these agencies called constituent service, which is much more help than them and getting a lack that and a lot easier than the higher job of making policy choices so much as they gain. the congress doesn't legislate but the fundamental constitutional job. >> host: has to creep or the increase been explicit, implicit, has it been slow? >> guest: it is coming in waves, and quan said the scientists call it. the first burst of this is in the progressive era 100 years ago. woodrow wilson who is a political scientist before he was president had a theory about giving america a new style administrative state. the biggest threats came with th

it should be understood that it is constitutional for congress, congress has the same soft protectionsthat the courts have. and the analogy is appropriate and i think in the next time that there is our refusal to bring a contempt of congress to a grand jury, there should be a resolution that authorizes both an inherent contempt at the same time that there is a criminal contempt, and that the supreme court, in morrison v. olson, we'll come and support it, that there should be an injunction because there was only, what the justice department is saying is really that there is a a conflict of interest because their client is the president and also the executives. justice department in such situations has rules which is as if we do have a conflict of interest we will appoint a special prosecutor, either somebody within the department of justice who is walled off or somebody private, like an independent counsel. over of those should be looked at because there needs to deleverage. this is all about politics. that's what it is. congress has had it, and needs to revive it, and not go to court.

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its congresses library, but it's also america's library.host: say someone watching this and i want them to be able to walk in somewhere in this library system and say doctor carla hayden told me to come here and ask you how to see what i want to see, where would you send them? guest: the first thing a person should do is to go up to a wonderful information desk and talk to the person that is there and there will be a person there host: in the jefferson building? guest: in the jefferson building and they can also going to the madison building and there is an atom's the. a theme with the presidents. they can say i'm interested in jerry lewis films. i'm interested in bob hope. i'm interested in this information you have about rosa parks. i'm interested in finding out about something about my family's history. on the visiting from iowa and i understand that you have newspapers that go back and i'm trying to find my great-grandfather. when they go to that information and it has a big sign, information, that's for you: that's your first point of

it's not just congress. president bush when he signed mccain feingold said i think it's unconstitutional but let the courts figure it out. that's not the way to do it. if you think it's unconstitutional you've got to air on the side of the constitution. i think justice scalia would really -- i think he was really frustrated with congress. our big way to defend our powers, the obama care program took funding that really was never appropriated. that's our core power, the power of the purse. what we did was file a lawsuit to vindicate the interest. we were able to move the ball forward. i think scalia would look at that and say why are you running to the courts to do that? you guys should defend it your self. you have the power, the power of the purse, to not confirm people, impeach, why don't you use powers rather than running for the court. i think at the end of the day we're in this budget problem where we do these big omnibuses where we're not willing to solve that. we're not willing to take political risk

lame-duck congress that returns this week. now that the elections are over, congress returns next week for its lame-duck session. we are joined by scott wong, senior staff writer with "the hill.". you covered donald trump on capitol hill and the headline of your current piece says trump and ryan signal new chapter in their relationship. how does this play into next week's elections for speaker? how does this bolster paul ryan's chances in the house? mr. wong: i think it does. before the election, the hillary -- the conventional wisdom was hillary was going to win the race. donald trump had been threatening to make life miserable for paul ryan. that he had not supported them during the campaign trail, he would come after ryan. now that donald trump is the president-elect, the dynamic has completely shifted. the two men, who met yesterday, were praising each other. speaker ryan rolled out the red carpet for donald trump, hosted a lunch for him in the capitol hill club. then brought him back to the capital where he took him out o

-- background as a member of congress. thank you for this opportunity to express my positions to the voters. it's an excellent question. recently i put a testimonial video up on my website. it's of a former customer that i had, that i actually worked on a classified surveillance program that was dedicated to getting war fighters in the middle east the tools that they needed to fight and win. he happens to be a new hampshire voter. and one of the thing i'm most did for him and the organization and the united states military to get our war fighters the equipment that they need, he talks about that he's using that as the basis to support me for my candidacy for congress. and i'm very proud of that record. i might add that my business did save the taxpayers millions of dollars, generated millions of dollars of revenue and created good paying jobs in new hampshire. with full benefits. josh: you are applying for a j taxpayer dollars. according to records, public records, you are behind on property taxes. what should voters take

two longtime observers of congress to talk about what the new congress faces from now until the end of the year and what the incoming administration of donald trump. francine kiefer with the christian science monitor. niels lesniewski is a senior staff writer for "roll call." let me bounce a headline off of you. the republicans will use the lame-duck session to set the stage for donald trump. how much truth is in that narrative? guest: we are not sure how republicans will use the lame-duck session. the main job is to get the budget done. party,the republican there are conservatives who want to push that into next year so that they have a friendly president to deal with their budget, and the republican leadership wants to get the budget done now so that they can have the new president start with a clean slate. will not clear which side win out on this. my guess is the leaders will win out and do what they can to move the ball along, and as speaker ryan says hit the road running next year. what: a lot of that may be the president-elect decides to say. tohe were to let it be known the mor

we'll report what happened when the news4 i-team questioned congress by diversity. >> congress is not leading by example snits tea story you need to see tonight before heading to the polls tomorrow. >>> we are looking at a cold start for your election day. make sure you have your coat on when you step out of the front door tomorrow. yes, we have our challenges. we must give every child a great education, build an economy that works for everyone, end tax breaks for companies that move our jobs overseas. by working together, democrats and republicans, we can do these things. that's why we must defeat those who want to turn americans against one another. i'm chris van hollen, and i approve this message, because united, hundreds of new staffers will move in with them. >> and our news4 i-team review finds congress isn't following its own laws on ensuring diversity in the work force. scott macfar land takes look at the rules that apply for everyone but not for the offices of those that represent you on the hill. >> reporter: anita he is tell literally wrote the book on how the federal gover

reid: i served in congress now for 34 years. throughout that time, i've tried to be pleasant and helpful to my colleagues. i feel very fortunate to have become personally close and friends with members of congress from all over this great country. basher boxer and i were members of the -- barbra boxer and "were members of the house class of 1982. such fond memories i have of that class. tom carper, dick durbin, and scores of others. we had a huge class. at first glance, barbara boxer and harry reid had very little in common. she's from california, heavily populated liberal state. i was from nevada. a much smaller state in area and in population. i was the only democrat in my state's delegation, congressional delegation. but i was stunned when i was asked to join the huge california congressional delegation. being from nevada, being part of that largest congressional delegation in america was extremely helpful to me. the californians were good to me in so many different ways, just allowing me to be a part of their meetings every

there is our continental congress. now, the articles of confederation sort of sets the rules for the continental congress. that's an idea that comes into this room with benjamin franklin. at the very beginning of the war, it's an idea he dusted off from the 1750s during the french and indian war. he put together this idea of confederation between the enemies to work together to defend themselves against enemies such as france. he dusts off the old ideas. rewrites this first version of the articles of confederation. the day after they chose the committee to write the declaration of independence, they also chose a committee with a member from each of the states to write the articles of confederation. the main writer, another pennsylvanian, john dickinson. again, dickinson would be famous for kind of trying to slow us down for independence. but at the same time he's making those arguments, he's actually writing the articles of confederation. an agreement between how the united states is going to operate. where essentially

an individual who serves in this congress, one of congress' best orators. when i think about him, i thought i would introduce him this way, mr. speaker. he is brave and brilliant. he is strong and stratriege ex. he is always prepared and persistent. i now yield to my co-anchor, congressman hakeem jeffries. mr. jeff reese: thank you. i want to thank my distinguished colleague and good friend from the third congressional district, the always elegant and eloquent and fervescent and erue diet anchor of the c.b.c. specialed orer who has made us all proud in the manner in which she has conducted herself on behalf of the people she represents as well as the entire con gregsal black caucus and of course the class of 2012. mr. jeffries: once again it's my honor and privilege to stand on the house floor and participate in the congressional black caucus' special order hour where for 60 minutes, we have an opportunity to speak directly to the american people about issues of great significance. and i can think of no more profound moment by which we need to address the p

so, we have a new president and several new members of congress, and with those members of congress, hundreds of new staffers are going to come with them. the news 4 eye team review finds congress isn't following its own laws on ensuring diversity in the work force. scott mcfar land takes a look at the rules that apply for everyone else but not for the offices that represent y the hill. >> the power -- >> reporter: lobbyist and attorney literally wrote the book on how the federal government works. >> really take the lessons learned during my career and making them more available to people who want to access the federal government. >> reporter: but when she started her career path as a congressional staffer she didn't see many people who looked like her in higher positions. >> we're a representative government so we want our government to be representative requires diversity tracking in the work force not just for government, but for everyone through the civil service reform at equal employment opportunity act. but the lawmakers don't have to follow the laws. when the eye team looked

congress checking the president, backing down from the president, president cooking congress-- >> sunday at 9:00 p.m. eastern on afterwards a guardian journalist looks a gun death in america over a 24 hour period in another day in the death of america, a chronicle of 10 short lives. he is interviewed by williams, a staff writer for the atlanta. >> it's a kind of broader societal thing, which counts people out, dehumanizes them and then when their life is taken-- well, that's already been accounted for, but yeah, i think there is a real problem once you start saying, well, he was on a student. there's a grade that you could get where it would be where they. >> go to book tv.org for the complete weekend schedule. >> grover cleveland is interesting. you can win a trivia contest. he won three national elections in a row, but as is the peculiarities of the american democracy it's that electoral vote that matters as samuel hylton found out in 1786 and grover cleveland found out when he won the popular vote, and when the popular vote again, but wasn't president. when the pop their vote again wa

he got nothing done in congress. why? because congress. why? because he cannot work with others.udible] [inaudible] >> before we run out of time, just briefly i have to ask you mr. curbelo you introduced a bill who just distinction between cubans who have come here who are migrants for economic reasons and those who are political refugees. why did you introduce that? there has been tremendous fraud in the system and benefits going to people who didn't deserve them. >> that's exactly right. this is a this is a generous country and no community knows that more than the commute cuban community. so many of our families have come over the years, hard-working people, most of them are people couldn't return to cuba for political reasons. they were being persecuted. the problem today is that every cuban that comes to the united states automatically, no questions ask its welfare benefits. i'm to $1500 per month and direct cash payments, food stamps, and housing support. some of these people, qualify for benefits and then return to live in cuba while they continue receiving these benefits.

so we have a new president and several new members of congress and with those members of congress, hundreds of new staffers are going to come with them. the news4 i-team review finds congress isn't falling its own laws on ensuring diversity in the workforce. scott macfarlane looks at the rules that apply for everyone that represent you on the hill. >> reporter: lobbyist attorney literally wrote the book on how the federal government works. >> it really took lessons learned during my career and making them more available to people who want to access the federal government. >> reporter: but as a congressional staffer, she didn't see many people who looked like her in higher positions. government to be representative of the people who live in thissing nation. >> reporter: and congress requires through the civil service reform and equal employment opportunity acts but the lawmakers don't have to follow the laws. when the i-team looked for records on numbers on how well congressional staffers reflected gender and racial makeup of the states their lawmakers represent, we discovered there aren't a

i do think it's what congress wanted. and i think if you logistic at both the text and the legislative history, senator wieckert's brief goes through and shows what congress wanted. in addition to, that yes, there is a lot of reason to believe, and we have an amicus brief here from thomas harry, melody musgrove and madeline will who specifically say, look, we think that what parents are going to do based on our experiences is go through i.d.e.a. procedures. because what they want is to get the relief that is available in i.d.e.a. proceedings. there are some case like this case, like to fry case -- i'm sorry, like the payne case in the 9th circuit where you have a case of abuse, where the principle injuries are not injuries to education, they're emotional injuries. those are the cases that are going to proceed to court. >> i guess that's right. but even if what you say is right and it makes a loft sense, a lawyer advising a client might advise that, look, this is what you want the school to do so that you can have a free a

she has been a big leader in congress. >> what did you do before you came to congress?workforce 35 years in development, helping adults who needed to retrain for jobs. decided ton 2011 and do more to serve. >> how do you feel from going ceo of a company where you get to run things to now being in this legislative body, one of 435. >> a good ceo works with the people around them to develop the best ideas. you can issue orders all you want. you may not get them done. but with everyone committed to one plan, you can move things forward. i think the same approach works for congress. see if we can get a consensus that moves the ball forward. i learned there are few perfect solutions. but no decision is a decision. make a decision. . >> as you go through the orientation process, what sticks out to you? >> i think listening to the speaker, kevin mccarthy, talking about the responsibility we have. i got a text message from kevin about recognizing that serving in congress is a rare opportunity and a huge opportunity. very few people get to do this. and to root -- and to treat th

so, when congress was the best vehicle for achieving progressive ends -- woodrow wilson talk about congress was important, and when he elect to be president, the presidency. the only reason i bring it up is because if you look at things which are stake in all of this, like the administrative state, there is nothing democratic about administration state -- it is unaccountable come on constitutional government. it violates the fundamental principle that defines conservatism, which is opposition to arbitration to arbitrary power, and it is completely accountable. progressives have no problem building that out. their relationship to direct democracy is entirely an argument about expediency, the acquisition of power. and if direct democracy started working against them, they would stop being in favor of direct democracy. >> the last thing on this is that the judicial issue for trump politically brings the team together. just as it did in the primaries, i was talking about earlier. not every member of the house, not every member of the senate was that enthusiastic about donald trump, but when it

just released, sent to members of congress. republican chairman, democratic ranking members in the house of representatives and the senate. saying based on the fbi's review over the nine days, of all the e-mails on anthony weiner's computer, they haven't changed their initial conclusions back in july that, yes, hillary clinton acted extremely careless in dealing with classified information, but no reasonable prosecutor would recommend criminal charges. i'd love to get the trump campaign's reaction. >> we don't think anything has changed here. we thought director comey and the fbi were wrong when they made the initial recommendation in july and think they're wrong now. unlike the democrats, who the heads spun so fast last week they caught whip lack, changing their positions, liking comey to disliking him to liking him again. let's look at the facts. there is still an active investigation into the clinton foundation. i think most americans have looked at this case and realized there is something corrupt. there is something shady

so budget resolution passed in this congress still part of senate rules into next congress so theoretically possible but also require making decisions very quickly and have to resolve what does it mean for fiscal year 2017 discretionary spending level and other problems. >> since ed and i e-mailed about this last night about 6:30 or so, i've done some checking and have a slightly different rumor. i hear that congress may not take up budget resolution in the lame duck but beginning of the next session. first for 2017, there isn't one because as you suggested senate punted on it and house didn't go that far. so you do a budget resolution in january, shortly after congress got back. including reconciliation instructions, hypothetical to repeal part of the aca. that's all it would do basically. six months later congress do a budget resolution for the coming fiscal year including a separate set of instructions to do other things that you suggested. real value of reconciliation is it prevents a filibuster in the senate. that's the real value of it. so a 52/48 republican majority could move forwar