ends of congress dole is to venezuela. when the political crisis hit the streets many politicians exploited public frustration and transformed caracas into a battlefield. thoughts of the opposition resorted to extreme violence. he had a. bad mistake mechanism responded cruelly and indiscriminately dozens were killed on both sides and many ended up in prison. when independent un experts alfred desireless visited caracas. he persuaded the government to release 80 prisoners are just flat he insists though that some should be in prison and should be considered political prisoners. on the subject of political prisoners he said we should look at europe as well. they are 4 persons. politicians who are. in jail. now these 4. politicians are clearly political prisoners. whereas in venezuela many of the detainees were detained because acts of violence. they were. detained because they were just expressing their. desire to be independent. to be sure that they're all political prisoners in spain i went to barcelona to visit a fellow j

congress has a lot of leeway congress could take it up themselves or they could dole out the responsibility as it sees fit once they decide to essentially indict, because that's what an impeachment is, then it moves to the senate for a trial they need only a majority to accuse or indict the president and then it moves to a trial in the senate where 2/3 is required to convict and then remove so we're really in the preliminary stages now and i should add that once impeachment proceedings begin congress's power to investigate, as the supreme court has said, increases to beyond its normal level. so as long as congress can enforce those subpoenas it has an even broader power to collect information. >> and we have also rudy giuliani to look into here because by his own admission he himself personally was urging those ukrainian officials to look into biden. he actually talked about it on fox news and we'll talk about it on the other side >> insiders saying you mucked this up. your response. >> man, i really did and you know who i did it at the request of the state department i never talked to a uk

congress. because there has been back and forth about this issue and the president's ability to do that. but in this situation, the president says, hey, it was no big dole. there's no problem with what i said. given that he's admitted it's not a problem, he should turn it over and let the house committee deal with it as they deem appropriate. >> thank you all. evelyn will stick around with me. >>> joining me now, california democratic congressman, a member of the oversight and armed services committee. thank you so much for joining us. very much appreciated. we are just getting a statement from nancy pelosi on this most recent news with regards to the whistleblower report. here's what she says in part. i want you to respond to this. and we literally just got it. if the president president has done what's been alleged, he's stepping into a dangerous mine field with serious repurr cushions and democracy. the president and acting dni must end immediately and the whistleblower must be provided with every protection guaranteed by the law to defend the integrity of the government and ensure accountability and trust. she goes on, we will continue to follow the