conservative. - is he a republican? can i go down from there? (audience laughs) by process of elimination, let's arrive at something. - i think if you declare yourself a republican, then you are a republican. - if you win the presidency running on the republican party line, you are a republican. - yeah. - but he's not a conservative. - he's not a conservative but i would argue he has a chance, ironically, to become maybe the most significant conservative. or his agenda could actually be the most conservative agenda despite the fact that he himself is not a conservative. - will it be his agenda, will it be the agenda of the people he's brought into the administration, or will it be the agenda of conservatives in congress who recognize that he is essentially a trojan horse and that they're riding along inside his belly. - i think the latter, but one of the things we saw just the other week is neil gorsuch being confirmed as a supreme court justice. - conservatives love this, right? - conservatives lo

he is a fake conservative. the only thing he does to get people to support him in a big way is he doesn't want black people to get benefits from the largest from washington, and calls him a phony and says real conservatives want fewer programs and he writes this article that those of you tempted to support george wallace and call yourself asivetive and saying they're ain't a dime's differs between the two parties, vote for me, buckley counselor -- counters by there's a lot of difference. how the runs the state, and opposed to minorities and that makes nixon respectable a second time. >> remarkable to think that george wallace was competing with whom in these southern states? robert f. kennedy. that was the situation. that brings the racial issue up. buckley was not a racist and he is the guy who drove the racists out of the conservative movement. said no room for you people here. and yet, like goldwater, who was in the a racist, he, buckley, and goldwater, opposed the '64 civil rights act, which i think played

we could've called the rule parts of the state conservatives. there's lots of types of conservatives and what we really wanted to emphasize was during about a 20-three here. a lot of the rhetoric from the conservative side of the state was very much a popular type of rhetoric. to be honest oregon has had a lot of populism both within the conservative side and a little side. you did back even 100 years or longer, we have a very populist streak to us. and that the elite shouldn't rule, everybody should have a sake of everybody should participate, that we should have an open political system. we chose those particular times because we really thought it was the best is sort of capture the type of conservatism see here as both the type of liberalism we see here as well. like many parts of the country in the late 1800s, we had a lot of party machines in the state. the state was dominated first by a democratic party machine that was based out of salem that called the salem click. and then and the latter part of the 19 century it was a more republican m

and we have a very liberal oregon, but there's also a conservative side of the state too, conservative like many parts of the u.s. we have small towns where they believe in sort of traditional conservative values. so oregon is not just the progressive state in which you may see on television, but it's actually two different states. >> here's a look at some of the current best selling nonfiction books according to "the washington post." topping the list is actor and author alan alda with his book on improving communication. "if i understood you, would i have this look on my face?" that's followed by former house speaker newt ding rich with his insights -- gingrich into the trump presidency, "understanding trump." next is believe me, a memoir by eddie izzard. fourth is al franken's autobiography be giant of the senate. after that, neil degrasse tyson explores the universe is astrophysics for people in a hurry. our look at the best selling nonfiction books according to "the washington post" continues with retired navy admiral william mccraven's self-help book, make your bed. and comedian

conserve -- conservatives need to do know how to figure out with people that don't agree with them.you make a good living talking with audiences that agree with you and that leaves you completely briend how other people think and persuade them about things and it's a real problem for conserve -- conservetism and i don't think what people of laftnia think about america. whatever you think about donald trump's base, he's making conservetism and the republican party fairly toxic to well-educated millennials to a lot of people that are the future of the party and that's something that we have to deal with. >> i will turn to this side of the room. this gentleman right here. >> i love the panel discussion. we have been talking about trump and reagan. media is something that comes out quite a bit. media didn't necessarily like ronald reagan and i would like ron give donald trump tip how he can handle the media like ronald reagan did. >> reagan didn't shut them out. reagan was one of the most successful presidents of the modern era. the media was not kind to ronald reagan. the night of the

in 2012, a survey found that one gay votersesbian and described themselves as conservative or very conservative. 1970's,e late 70's -- every time there is an upsurge in religious conservative activism, there is an influx of new members who want to push back and rescue the gop from homophobia. over time they get frustrated, leg during the aids crisis and 10 to drop out. there is ane episode there is a new wave. 13,000,e hovered around at least until 2004 when i stopped doing research. is is centralized to any particular part of the country today? clayton: they have chapters in formates, and they tend to placeseast historically with sizable lgbt populations. l.a., chicago, dallas and they do well in places that are both lgbt friendly and have conservative politics. the biggest clubs are in southern california. >> what led you to this resource -- research? clayton: number issues. the first is, there has been an ongoing debate about the future of the republican party and can theabout how republican party reach out to non-white voters, women and dave voters.- gay it came up a lot in the 2016 electio

and the administration is defining itself as conservative. >> what do we mean by conservative? think of eisenhower. stalin, think about donald's budget, slow and steady. it talks about no drama obama, there was even less drama with eisenhower. you wanted to operate yours at a standstill. that's basically the caricature of the era. it wasn't the reality but the caricature of the era. he was appointed as billionaire to the cabinet, the new york times didn't editorial that he had maybe 10 cabinet departments at that time, they said nine millionaires in the plumber, he was the head of the plumbers union. that's it. that if you were running a senators factors, you are running one of the large energy companies but arthur anderson, and other things. you were a conservative and you have the administration on your side. ugly had this but hated big business as much, he said they were crony capitalists trying to take over the administration get friendly tax deals and yet friendly billing deals. >> nothing changes. none of the issues, i found this out, none of the issues have changed but h

reagan was an economic conservative and he managed to fold into his campaign the social conservativesand the foreign policy hawks, and then michael novak, one of my dear friends says i cannot believe what i'm hearing. everyone knew that as a fundamental essence of ronald reagan's campaign was social conservative and be a pro life and christian and managed to make that into a global fill so isty -- on ward blah blah blah, and the -- it was like this episode of seinfeld where jerry gets the entire pizza restaurant to fight about abortion. i was very proud i set it off and it went like this for 20 minutes. my point is i think it's very difficult to pick any one of this threads from ronald reagan who was very smart but not been intellectual or a philosopher. he was a politician who tacked around as best he could -- i like your spinnings between principles and ideology -- but this idea that there is a true reagan that sound solves owl of the questions is is not right whether it comes from the high priests or whether it comes from the olsen school of revisionism. >> roy, you get the last co

of fivend that one out are conservative or very conservative. so what happens is in the late 70's every time there is a homophobic activist there is a influx and members who want to push back and rescue the gop from homophobia. over time they tend to get frustrated during the aids crisis and the drug wars and they start to drop out. is this next time there there is a week. at least until 2004. >> is it centralized in any particular part of the country today? chapters inhey have 26 states. they tend to form in places that sizable odbc populations. chicago, theyway, tended to look well in those places that are friendly. clubs are in california. >> what led you to this research? question, the first chance of there has been is ongoing debate. about the future of the republican party. how can the republican party reach out to voters. how can they reach gave voters. in theme up a lot election. i was reading about that. then there is growing literature conservatives, that show the interactions between the new conservatives and places that have feminism

don'teard that cities like conservatives but they as't want conservatives just well as they disappeared. to understand and is just how many of us are in so places. and how for all the reputation get of being cultures of liberalism. tenants ofal conservativism of an attitude towards preserving tradition of an attitude towards strengthening people's agency. city.are present in .arty labels may come and go but conservatism is present. builte have seen is a environment that was not planted many places. rather was driven apart. apart byny cities torn projects that snakes through intentionally, poor neighborhood, black neighborhoods in an ideal progress. highways are good so more highways are better and highways in cities have to be just as highways outside of them. we saw lot of enthusiasm that lot of good architecture, lot of good urbanism. cities in america, you see them starting to try and prepare. to put pieces back placesr and there are where it's happening. one of the great sites of that detroit.ty of as bad as its reputation gives you to believe. thats gone through things no other cit

and conservative causes poorly. it created a lose-lose situation for conservatives. there's no way to operate successfully in a system where the media allows them to be respected as the principled opposition only as long as they were shackled and limited by biased news coverage. conservative voters were beyond sick of it. the media would say things that true, cover issues dishonestly, then accuse others of being liars for disagreeing. no candidate, not even squeaky clean moderates, such as mitt romney, could keep the media from painting republicans and their release as dangerous. it was enough to make half the country to give up on the enterprise of working with the media entirely. trump exploited the situation. he did not create it. he made the most of it. quite literally, he rode it to the white house. trump voters love that he was beating up the bully that they had been unable to vanquish. they loved he destroyed the media's power to label things as gaffs. trump would not have had this power had the media not set

republicans and conservatives need to face facts.we've been a minority party of movement for 84 years, we've won elections in that time but never do we take hold of government and change the debate in our direction for more than a couple years at a time. inthe end it always seems government remains big , it remains run by progressives and founded by progressive values and the only debates we influence on the margin or about cost and unless we change this, unless we change the nature of the political debate, we will forever be little more than tax collectors for the welfare state. let me also quote from something that came out today by david brooks which is apropos to this discussion. argued today in his piece about how the gop is in a sense rejecting conservatism. conservative policy intellectuals, that people like you in this audience tend to have accepted the fact that american society is coming apart and measures need to be taken to assist the working class. republican politicians show no awareness of this fact. conservative write

sessions' endorsements gave trout cloud among strong conservatives and many of the conservatives are backing sessions over trump. lindsey graham and ted cruz among them. back to kevin corke at the white house. >> very interesting setup there, shepard. i should add, keep in mind, it was jeff sessions coming into this position neglected to mention some of the meetings that he had with russian officials. so this idea about maybe i wouldn't have picked him doesn't add up. that being said, you heard sarah huckabee sanders ask again today, why not just fire him instead of be rating him on twitter consistently that we've seen? here's what she had to say about that. >> i think the president has been very clear about where he is. he's obviously disappointed, but also wants the attorney general to continue to focus on the things that the attorney general does. he wants him to lead the department of justice, he wants him to do that strongly, focus on things like immigration, leaks, a number of other issues. that's what his focus is at this point. >> you heard her mention focus on leaks there, s

we could call the rural parts of the state conservative. what we really want to emphasizes that during about a 22 met thirty-year period a lot of the rhetoric from the conservative side of the state-- state was a populist rhetoric and to be honest oregon has had a lot of populism within the conservative side and liberal side dating back even 100 years longer we have a very big populist streak. and everyone should have a say and participate and have an open political system, so we'd chose those particular terms because we thought it was about to capture the conservativism we see here as well as the liberalism we see here as well. like many parts of the country in the late 1800s there was a lot of party machines in the states. the state was dominated first by a democratic party machine based out of salem called the salem click and then in the latter part of the 19th century it was a more republican machine and they all tied into the railroad, transportation industry and a very corrupt party organization. one of the things we are known for his

he created a lose situation for conservatives. there's no way to operate successfully in a system where the media allows them to be respected as the principled opposition on this long if there shackled and limited conservative voters were beyond sick of it. the media would say things that aren't true. cover issues dishonestly and then accuse others for disagreeing. no candidate, not even squeaky clean moderate like mitt romney could stop. it was enough to make half the country to give up on enterprise of working with the media entirely. trump exploited the situation. he did not create it. he made the most of it. quite literally he wrote it to the white house. trump voters love that he was beating up the bully that they had been able to vanquish. trump would not have had this power had the media not set things up through decades of shoddy coverage targeting its political opponent. the media did this to themselves. so following trump surprisingly, the washington post had a great idea. something they should have done a few weeks or m

and with that conservative populism and that second part of that but after we discussed what it looks like it is the edited volume there are 14 with considerable discussion liberal verses conservative to capture a the to use education and to develop policies that work well and that is why we chose them. had with those conservatives in what i really want to emphasize and a lot of rhetoric was very populist and then on the conservative side but then we have bad district head everybody should have a say end participate so we chose those trends with that type of conservatism and liberalism. and then with that machine and then to see that it was the republican machine it was all tied into the railroad and transportation industry. but it initially and many farmers began to feel that the government was not thinking about that. and with that urban middle class. and then as part of that progressive movement. and with those political reforms. >> but the most important political figure and trusting the democracy and to have that initiative of the referendum with the early history of oregon. so t

he was barely conservative but not as conservative as reagan. [train horn] >> he pursues nixon's policies, continues dÉtente, his fiscal policies, to the bench. this creates an opening for conservative challenger 76 and some looked at it but re >> the reality is carter beat ford by an extremely slight difference. carter carries ohio in 1976 by 6,000 votes out of over 3 million cast. he carried -- the headquarters are in ohio so there is a lot of suspicion the teamsters but they wouldn't do that. >> no. >> let me quickly say the fact that ford came so close would seem to indicate there is a shift but reagan now it is definitely in his limits in the book to persist. he immediately creates citizens for the public to help candidates run for office. up. right now we're so happy to welcome a new northwest arthur, will claim here as long as we can, rachel pearson. [applause] >> thank you so much tonya can you hear me? thanks so much for coming out. were excited to share the book with you and hear your questions if you have any. this is a book that i wr

so why do i say that reagan was not an anti-new deal conservative? well, it's because that's what he basically was telling people from the moment he stepped us onto the political sphere. now, most people who have studied reagan know he began life as an ardent democrat. he inherited his father's love of the democratic party as the party of the working man, and he added to that his own youthful admiration of franklin roosevelt. he voted for him four time, he was an ardent new dealer, he memorized reagan's -- memorized roosevelt's fireside chats according to his coworkers. in fact, he even bore dates by talking about new deal politics when they wanted to be talking about something else. but he continued to be a democrat even after roosevelt died. he supported the democratic nominee against richard nixon in 1950, and he continued to support new deal democratic ideals in private conversation well into the 1950s going so far, according to barry goldwater's recollection, of calling him a fascist suspect o.b. when -- s.o.b. when he first met goldwater who we

you mentioned conservatives. i have to say that some conservatives are speaking out against this whole transgender thing. so is john mccain's statement that we should all be guided by the principal that anybody able to meet the standards should have the opportunity to do so and should be treated as the patriots they are. and lot of conservatives are hitting back. what does this blow back tell you, john fredric? >> if i may first respond to what she said earlier. >> you have 30 seconds to do it. >> i'll do it. they're concerned about three w's. war, wall, work. you get those three things, he gets reelected and out of the wars. >> transgender? >> transgender is this. donald trump is a pro-gay rights, pro-gay major republican. first one ever to do that took the issue off the table. he -- >> what about transgender people? >> he made a cold, calculating business decision that had nothing to do with the social impact or politics because his generals told him this is not working for us. i've had people on active duty wh

the conservatives have stopped using that argument.ou mentioned three times in the conservative manifesto. jeremy corbyn has been able to promise of the spending without being reminded about why it might not be a good idea. the conservatives are now second—guessing themselves. idea. the conservatives are now second-guessing themselves. for the tories, breaking down and doing austerity is something of a vote winner, but is it too late for them? the conservatives pride themselves on their economic record. that is what got their majorities in previous elections. it is risky strategy at they look as if they are letting go of that completely. looking at the sunday papers today, every paper is asking for money from a different part of the government. if they do everything, the whole idea of the magic money tree from labour starts not to work, because it looks as if the conservatives have the magic money tree for things like the dup. more than 80,000 migrants have arrived in italy in the first six months of the year. the united nations high c

it seems like conservatives are upset. is that what you're hearing and should we read bannon behind that breitbart headline? >> yes. the relationship was very close with him being incharge and still is. on the hill you've already seen some senators come out publicly, senator lindsey graham, senator

conservative i get it. there are other to consider and i am older than i am older but you know as a a genuine question i mean i absolutely understand the philosophical underpinning of of you know that's not a role an appropriate role for government i can debate it but i understand it what baffles me is why republicans are pursuing the policy of we don't believe that health care is an appropriate function of government but they're unwilling to say it out loud what's what what what am i missing here what what has what has happened in the last and it hasn't been just since obamacare or was it you know longer than that the republicans are afraid to basically say this is our position we believe it's a moral position we believe it's a constitutional position we believe you know ethically intellectually were correct what happened to that republican party or those conservatives well i think the bigger question is why is the conservative group so why are the conservatives the republican party not doing more to cut t

the united states needs a healthy conservative movement.s always going to be that impulse, but whether you educate it to understand that america should be a land of opportunity for everyone and we're a country based on an idea rather than a place or whether you tell people that we're based on a place, a nationality and an ethnicity, those are two paths that the conservative movement could have taken. for me the great shock over the last two years is the fact that the republican party has taken that in my view much lower road. i think that's dangerous not just for the country, but it's dangerous for the liberals. >> i would agree with that and they also need conservative voices on this air to have this conversation. let me ask you this, when people wake up in this country, they don't typically think that they're democrats or republicans. who is the protector of this conservative movement that has gone away? so many people who would have thought themselves conservative like lower taxes and smaller government, but they don't typically take to

the white house is putting pressure on conservative groups to try to pressure conservatives. i think they realize this would be seen as a big loss and big walking back of some of their political promises if they can't make this happen. >> it's a huge loss. how much is owned by president trump? i think it's on mike lee, rand paul. does mitch mcconnell have any magic left? >> it's hard to see at this point honestly. we're not even sure if he has the votes to start debate on this bill. senators left town really frustrated this week. they didn't know which measure, whether they'd be voting on a repeal only bill or repeal and replace bill next week. of course, you have senator mccain and we're not sure when he can come back which would be a crucial vote. >> did the republicans blow the messaging? they didn't spend much time at the white house or on the hill other than paul ryan saying it's a rescue mission, did they blow it? >> you have confusing message from the white house. sometimes you got the idea that the president preferred straight repeal. as sarah said yesterday, the pres

now, lots of conservatives are really doubting themselves.the election result and they are thinking all the previous need for fiscal discipline actually isn't popular and now they are second—guessing themselves. and i suppose for the tories, breaking down and undoing austerity is something of a vote winner. but is it too late for them? the conservatives pride themselves on their economic record. that's what has got the majorities in previous elections. not this one. it's a risky strategy if they look like they are just letting go of it completely. what's worrying is looking at the sunday papers today. every paper has a different ask for more money for a different section of the government. and i think that while they can relax on a few of those things, if they do it for everything, their whole idea of the magic money tree and labour starts to not work. it looks like the conservatives do have a magic money tree for certain things like the dup. and we'll find out how this story — and many others — are covered in tomorrow's front pages at 10:30p

party is a unionist party and we support the union the conservative party wants to leave the e.u. and leave the on the best possible terms we want to leave the the conservative party is committed to the defense of the realm and building up the armed forces the cabin on the speech that you were given to do and i see this as being a mains of restoring some of the broken relationships which there are and northern are at the moment in the drains away is not on the record because of the deals saying that privileged will be the violence done by protestants to catholics over what. catholics do to british security well you know that's not what she has said watch what she has said is that this is a day that first of all gives us an economic package which will impact on the lives of all of the people in northern ireland whether they voted for my party or whether they didn't and i think that secondly where she and fee and have tried to tear dine in the park sharing structures in northern ireland i think i'll do my house second thoughts about that because of course the alternative of not gove

many people well even before that they did many conservative m.p.'s were supporting us and ensuring that there was some statute of limitations which prevented investigations into those kinds of incidents prior to two thousand just. immunity for people who have engaged in terrorist activity so we will send thank you and we'll get you. in an upcoming episode of going underground after the break. these of corporate power and the full spectrum dominance of what we eat by private enterprise and lobbying and tourism if. he's trying to turn britain to defend his way of life all this is. going on to grow. the center of. the law i. told. you. just. have to leave. the bar. was i don't know. what they sell but. investigate police officers behavior as well. i'll take drugs and what. people. bustling the dubrovnik in venice are all fixed travel destinations so it must be nice to live. crowds of tourists disrupt the city's economic and social life. for this on the same. tradition. as mine and. while the city is trying desperately not to collapse. the profit of. th

bannon knew bossy from kind of the conservative fringes. bossy has been pulled into trump's orbit by steve nguyen the casino magnet. these are the two guys he surrounded himself. >> rose: but nguyen and trump weren't close. >> they weren't close ownerly. in fact they sue each other where nguyen want to move into atlantic city. trump was there, they all hired detectives and sued each other and all types of skulduggery. in the end they settled because there was a better deal. as soon as they settled they became friends. shortly after they became friends, bossy was at a fund raiser, a hospital fund raiser with steve nguyen who had gotten to know a little bit. nguyen called over donald trump and says hey i want you to meet my friend dave bossy, big deal in republican politics. you probably heard of him because right at that time bossy's group citizen's united had just won a supreme court case. so bossy's stock was trading high and trump is very impressed with that because trump is impressed with status. he brought bossy into his orbit brought h

i think it's really they don't believe it's conservative enough.d the senators are reacting to that. i think i heard ron johnson is more on the fence now than he was earlier. and now obviously mike lee has come out hard against it. and i expect overs to follow suit. >> you're talking about the argument that you can be against this from the right rather than from the left. >>yes. >> in your view, is that 100% the motivation or does the deep unpopularity of this bill also reflect a political calculus by some republicans they don't want to pass it and obviously if you're in a republican primary you want to come up with a reason for that from the right rather than the left? >> i think most of the -- especially mike lee and if ben sass for instance is to come out and say he's against back sawin he's against it, i think they are going to approach it in the right and they're going to say that this is not a bill that moves in the correct direction. it doesn't address the issues that we have in terms of health care. truce and others have said this is the ri

the conservative party candidate... last month's general election did not go to plan for the prime minister and shortly afterwards she ran into trouble over her handling of the grenfell tower fire. it felt for a spell that she might have to quit. it has been a month and a half since that general election but theresa may is still the prime minister. there is talk of succession all the time but it is not about imminent succession, it is about the medium term. what are the factors that are keeping her wedged in here? one major reason is a fear ofjeremy corbyn. tory mps do not want to do anything that would make a snap general election likely. jeremy corbyn has gone from being the no—hoperjoke to the very real threat, a proper socialist now much closer to number ten and the whole country has woken up to that and the conservative party certainly has. tory mps want to avoid upheaval during the brexit negotiations, not that they are not split about how negotiations should proceed. that has been a major cause of recent cabinet

i think it is very important for conservatives, conservatives are very well-meaning. -- well-meaning people, very decent. i say this as some buddy came out of the radical left so can i -- i can appreciate this and oo well mannered. they are willing to give the benefit of the doubt and not think the worst of people. in political war, you cannot do that. what i like about donald trump. there is no other republican i can think of, not one who on national tv in front of 50 million people can look hillary clinton in the eye and say you are a liar and a crook. which he is both. are -- your masthead for your magazine, there is a quote that said inside every liberal is a to tell terry and screaming to get out -- a totalitarian screaming to get out. david: i changed it to progressive. liberals and progressives, same thing. that is not because they are liberals, because they control the universities, schools, the newspapers, and dominate the they get to define terms, we do not. we have to live with them. thought control. david: absolutely. reason is because they think they can change the world

he replaced a conservative justice. guest: he did replace a conservative justice, but justice scalia did surprise people. i doubt that neil gorsuch would have been a supporter of the idea of burning the american flag being a protected free speech. the president has a list of 19 more people who he wants in a supreme court or a federal appeals court and they are just as conservative, to a person, as neil gorsuch. one of the reason the religious right voted 81% for donald trump in spite of his, shall we say, indiscreet comments about all kinds of people is that they knew he would get appointments to the united states supreme court. the only good thing that happened on the monday that this case was decided, that they decided to take two other cases involving religion is that justice kennedy did not announce his retirement. if he had retired, there would have been a battle royale over the summer about his replacement and his replacement nomination, at least, would be likely to come from that list that donald ,rump put out ab

it's conservative in a sense if you're a farmer you need to be conservative with your money because it may not rain as much next year. these are very old school conservative people. they take education, and they take their rural hospitals very seriously. and all along, moran was one of these people saying these rural hospitals, we need to watch this and protect them. and that's apparently why he made this choice tonight or part of why he made this choice tonight. >> garrett, thank you very much for joining us tonight. really appreciate it. >> thanks, lawrence. >> we're joined now by julie rovner, david frum, and ron kla klain. ron, i'm going straight to you on this. so tonight, ron, it seems the united states senate is working the way it normally used to work. i think you and i both had a very strong sense of just how weak this bill was in the senate, but this trump world has been surprising us, and i wasn't sure what rules were going to apply in the senate this time around. >> yeah, lawrence. to quote president trump, who knew health care could be so complicated? you know, i think you

a conservative. what scott is saying is right. you have members of congress ho did campaign on a smaller government, let's get rid of obamacare platform and these two things are not quite meshing up to get them to the 50 votes that they need in the senate and then a bill they can merge with the house bill which was probably more conservative. >> i think that analysis is right, but the main problem the reason this failed wasn't because of tension between trump and conservatives. this failed because of conservatives and moderates. there isn't a trump health care policy that's vying for ink at the table here. the problem is trump was absent. there was no bully pulpit in the presidency pushing this policy through. he was hand wringing tonight with three senators at the white house but he needed to do that two weeks ago instead of attacking msnbc and others. and all of these dalliances that we've had on twitter, he should have been driving his agenda and trying to force senators to feel they had to go alo

way and then it should have included conservative catholics and everybody else he can only attract other fundamentalist. said he did not really succeed with this mass movement but on the of their hands there is a lot of fuss with other southern baptists . and then to pay so much attention to these folks. so there seems to be demerger of ideas between the republican party and their windows that is the great division and where politics begins. >> so the republican party was a center of gravity but who would you say that the of better of the exchange when the of clergy in the activist engaged the politicians? to women's? or are they played by the politicians?. >> the politicians win that legislation that the christian right wanted passed including george to be bush -- george w. bush but that is what fall well understood that in one speech of ronald reagan this would do more for his cause the and the speeches of other pastors stowe he went on with reagan that were not moral or religious for example, with the nuclear weapon policies and "star wars" and then to show those evangelicals part of

we're seeing that all over conservative news sietsz. that's important to recognize because it shows up in the polling. we're going to see another poll from "the washington post" that will show dramatic partisan divides in how this russia issue is viewed, whether it's a real issue or a hoax as the president says depends so much on what media you're consuming. >> his narrative, calling ate hoax a witch-hunt, it's still resenting even after his latest shoe that dropped. we're learning fired fbi director james comey just got a book deal? >> yes. he's out there selling auto book according to "the new york times" and just confirmed by cnn. he's going out pitching the book and he's probably going to have a dial in the next few days. this is going to get interest from all the big accomplishing houses. you think about james comey and the story he may be able to tell according to the "times" is not just going to be a tell-all. it's going to a bigger book about his entire life's work, his career, and the big moments he's faced decisions in his car

conservative chaos over tuition fees u-turn.this is interesting. according to simon walters, the political editor of the mail on sunday, damian green, who is briefing heavily, the most senior minister in the government, effectively a deputy prime minister, says that the national debate may well be needed on the issue of tuition fees and in order to get back the youth vote, a support that is seen as having very much voted in favour of labour and having been wooed successfully by labour, and particularly by that late pledge by the labour party leader jeremy corbyn to say that tuition fees will be waived completely, although they we re be waived completely, although they were introduced by the labour party initially, and then increased by the tories later on, that it is absolutely capital that the conservative party change a lot of its fundamental core beliefs and therefore backed down on tuition fees. so this would be the mother of old u—turns. 0ne fees. so this would be the mother of old u—turns. one can imagine, if this is indee

and what i saw happening as a conservative in silicon valley was an agenda being pushed and the conservativee and conservative ideas being suppressed. sharyl: it's not only conservatives like torba who believe there's an epic struggle underway to control information. liberals and nonpartisans also complain of censorship, bias, and fake news. we're steeped in the most intense propaganda wars since world war two. >> the sign of a great fighter in the ring is, can he get up from the floor after being knocked down? london does this every morning. sharyl: that's when the nazis and the allies fought for their citizens' hearts and minds, devising propaganda campaigns to demoralize the enemy. >> [speaking german] sharyl: today's battleground in the information wars -- tv and the web. islamic extremist terror >> we are men honored with islam who climbed its peaks perform jihad, answering the call to unite under one flag. sharyl: and u.s. officials say russian president vladimir putin exploited state-controlled tv news to discredit hillary clinton. >> polls nationwide show that the majority of america

if you are a conservative you believe in government and civil society. it has always been a tension between the two. as a conservative you want government to do less and civil society to do more. for civil society to work there has to be civility in it. it's the grease that makes the machine run. to run you got to have a degree of stability the founding fathers talked about. host: what prompted you to write that? in this -- ine politico this margaret republicans lamented an agenda in quicksand. .hey have made little progress do you think if there was civility that there would be progress made? >> at times the president has hurt his own cause. given the twitter account. i'm not alone in suggesting you ought to put the twitter account away. you can't offend your way to legislative success. that itg in politics is makes the strangest of bedfellows. an enemy one day maybe the person you need on the next boat. memories are long and feelings can be afraid. frayed.d -- it has been unusual in the degree of coarseness. there has to be a level of respect. one huma

but they never resolved the internal debate between movement conservatives, populists, mainstream conservativesand moderates about what that means. whole efforthe fell apart because ideological conservatives wanted to pull out obamacare by the roots. populists were not happy with what that would do to the working-class voters. charlie: in the meantime, david, what was happening on the ground in terms of people who are watching the changes that might be coming, and becoming alarmed? right.that is people became alarmed, including a lot of republicans. independents, and voters that saw that these bills were going to hurt them. this is a case of reality coming home to roost. as jerry was saying, when republicans were out of power, they were able to say a lot of things about obamacare that was not true. they would say it was socialism even though a combined conservative and liberal ideas. once they took over the government, they had to turn those talking points into legislation. they were not able to do so in a thethat kept 51 votes in senate because all of their plans would have done enormous damag