it does tell us the conservative _ conservative party?e party _ conservative party? it does tell us the conservative party is - conservative party? it does tell us the conservative party is quite - the conservative party is quite diverse. they are all sick as they like to tell anyone repeatedly, the party that brought the first female prime minister. they did not manage that with the first female chancellor, labour did that with rachel reeves. rishi sunak also made history when he entered number 10 downing street. it tells us this is a party where actually it is interesting that so far it has not come up as too much of a point of observation that you have quite a diverse range of candidates. i think it is telling are probably where the conservative party has got to that you do have this and it is not something that is seen as going to hold any candidate back with their members. it doesn't come up in conversation. members. it doesn't come up in conversation-— members. it doesn't come up in conversation. ., ~ , ., , . conversation. thank yo

i want you to name the single most conservative thing, the last 14 years of conservative or conservativernment has done. >> education reform. look at the way in which we trust the british people. when we trust the british people, we get results that transform opportunities for everyone by trusting teachers, by trusting school parents to choose. we free people and freedom is the underpinning of isn't it telling that the most conservative thing of the last 14 years of conservative government happened dunng conservative government happened during a coalition with the liberal democrats? well, it happened under a conservative prime minister and with conservative visionaries. the fact that there were lib dems who happened to be watching doesn't actually change the reality. what we need to make sure is we are delivering conservative policies like that. so we're transforming health, we're transforming energy, we're transforming the infrastructure of our country. and actually building the opportunity for us all. >> now , what was the least >> now, what was the least conservative thing that the la

and the conservatives... and the conservatives...ives are already showing they are unfit for opposition as well. it is hardly surprising, i suppose. expecting that lot to hold the government to account on the nhs or the economy? that would be like putting a bull in charge of repairing the china shop. imean, who i mean, who would leave thejob of upholding ethical standards and government to the gang who put borisjohnson in number ten? and when the country needs in opposition to scrutinise next month's budget, it is not a job for the tory geniuses who cheered liz truss�*s, is it? just look at the quarter it heading to birmingham in a fortnight to audition for the job of conservative leader. they really are scraping the bottom of the barrel with these new tv reality shows, aren't they? i hear they are planning to call it strictly come pandering. or maybe, the great british blame off. or it may pointless. —— or maybejust pointless. —— or maybejust pointless. isn't it funny how after years of sitting around the cabinet table, these for it

peer, a formerly conservative peer, a formerly conservative peer, a formerly conservative peer, nower, has resigned from the party pending an investigation because, she said it was wrong. people waving placards that had the word coconut on them were arrested . coconut on them were arrested. she said that you should be able to call a politician in effect, a coconut. what do you make of that? is that free speech or is that? is that free speech or is that not the term is a racial slur . slur. >> and i think that no politician should be justifying the use of racial slurs. there is a different argument about whether we should imprison people for this , but the law at people for this, but the law at the moment means that if you call me the n word, you will probably, you know , go to probably, you know, go to prison. we should not make different rules for people based on what group they're in. and that was effectively what that court case was doing. there are other court cases that have ruled differently. i think this is a space that we need to explore more, but no conservative politician

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look, the thing, the nub of your question, being a conservative is about conserving what was good. and that's why conservatives and progressives oftentimes are this way because progressives are saying, no, we have to forge ahead. we have to break things, we have to change everything and conservatives are like no there's so much here that's good. trump is a burn it all down demagogue and j.d. vance is the kind of person that looks at trump and carl tuckerson looks at trump and says this guy is breaking everything and him breaking everything there creates crevases because trump doesn't really care about most things. peter thiel, but it has nothing to do with conserving what is good least of which is the basics of the american experiment and you can hear this in the rhetoric. it's not that i think kamala is steeped in conservatism but what she does do is not only have a reverence for things like the peaceful transfer of power and saying we are going defend our democratic allies abroad but she's also inviting conservatives in, you can be part of this coalition because i'm going to resp

, which gave conservative members a vote for the first time.olitical penance that this is now his view. i mean, there are lots of... "do as i say, not as i do. " right, and there are conservative mps, i think lots of them, who agree with william hague privately that they should have the sole right to pick the conservative party leader. there are far fewer of them who are willing to say so publicly. i think another thing we might see, by the way, at this conference... i mean, i will be fascinated by what the membership looks like, and notjust the membership, but a slice of conservative party members who are willing to come to the conservative party conference. because, you know, clearly, this is... we're not in an era of mass political party membership in the way that we were sort of 60 years ago, but we're certainly also not in an era of political party membership at levels that they were when william hague first gave conservative members the vote in 2001. and also, for me as a viewer and a listener, i'm not with... i'm not there. i know you'll

a conservative president. they abolished the gender studies department. they were the first university in america to eliminate d eni and they reframed the mission of the college to be the nation's top publicly funded classical liberal arts college that works like a hillsdale college. when we did that, even though the enrollment was terrible, some of the students wanted to leave but so many more wanted to apply. some of the faculty wanted to leave. honestly, they should have. the media would be like, some professors are leaving. if marxist oppressors are leaving the state of florida, that is good for the state of florida. that is not bad. the larger issue is, conservatives worked hard on k- 12. we have universal school choice. hopefully georgia will get there someday but it is good, it is important. i was just telling eric before we came out here, we are in the last dog days of summer vacation. next week we have our daughter going to second grade, our son going to first and our youngest daughter going to pre-k.

also, you spoke to conservatives may be a month a-o conservatives may be a month ago who— conservatives— timetable is a bit. it is a bit odd to _ timetable is a bit. it is a bit odd to choose your leader three days _ odd to choose your leader three days after— odd to choose your leader three days after the budget. three days— days after the budget. three days after the budget. three days after a leader has a chance _ days after a leader has a chance notjust in parliament but on — chance notjust in parliament but on bbc one. bit odd that they— but on bbc one. bit odd that they are _ but on bbc one. bit odd that they are choosing the leader 'ust they are choosing the leader just days before the presidential election. i think now— presidential election. i think now that _ presidential election. i think now that labour had enjoyed a few weeks of political difficulty, serious political difficulty, serious political difficulty, since keir starmer became _ difficulty, since keir starmer became prime and so you have even _ became prime and so you have even more _ became prime and so you have ev

as conservative people say, what does it mean to be a conservative? on the one hand, i don't want to conserve the current state of things where we have woke corporations, indoctrination's in the schools, prosecutors letting criminals out of jail, all that. so what i think florida represents and what we can do nationally is a great rediscovery, where we are restoring the timeless truths that have made this country great. because when we show fidelity to those founding principles, you have to apply it differently than james madison did or lincoln or reagan to new circumstances, but when we have fidelity to those founding principles, we do well as a country. please are not just timepieces, these are things that endure. we have lost that over recent years, but i absolutely think we have got a pathway to be able to get it back. mr. erickson: governor ron desantis, thank you. thank you so much. [applause] mr. erickson: ladies and gentlemen, thanks again for governor desantis for coming up, particularly in light of having the hurricane situation down in flor

and i said, yes, i am sure, because i'm a conservative and there are conservative think tank in the united states of america, our closest ally. so so eventually, eventually, i prevail because i am a determined person. the call from the embassy dropped me off two blocks away from the heritage so that the british would be sitting outside the building. now, i was back in heritage in 2019 when, as the newly appointed trade secretary, i was determined that united kingdom was going to strike a trade, deal with the then president, donald trump and. i gave a speech at heritage and i said, the time is now quoting the old reagan campaign about the fact that needed to get on with this trade deal now that, of course, created massive consternation back home in the united kingdom because the apparatchik in number ten downing street did not want to do a trade deal with the united states, with president trump. and i outlined in my book the fact that that deal would have happened. that deal would have happened if it wasn't for that resistance in. now why am i launching ten years to save the west in united

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>> well , i conservatives now? >> well, i think the conservatives have spent all summer., and i'm not sure they have, but they keep talking about immigration. and actually i'll compliment sir jake with saying this in a in an ad break. but if they're saying that you need someone that's going to be tough on immigration, well then that's going to send people over to reform rather than to the conservatives. and i think that they're they're trying to be a right wing party rather than a centre right party, which is the only position they've ever won from , however, i think reform from, however, i think reform doesn't have the organisation. still, i'm not convinced it has the discipline. but if you look at those red wall seats, about 80 of them, they came second to laboun 80 of them, they came second to labour. so i think what you're seeing and sirjohn curtice said this over the weekend, is that the death of the two party system is what the last election revealed. and i think it makes it a really complicated job for whoever's going to be tory leader . now, whoever's going to be

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the conservative _ her at the conservative conference.apologised. untilthe never apologised. until the conservative party neverapologised. untilthe conservative party apologises, it will be _ conservative party apologises, it will be an— conservative party apologises, it will be an electoral halitosis, just as untit— will be an electoral halitosis, just as until the labour party apologised forjeremy_ as until the labour party apologised forjeremy corbyn and the financial crisis _ forjeremy corbyn and the financial crisis none— forjeremy corbyn and the financial crisis. none of the leadership candidates seem to understand that they need _ candidates seem to understand that they need to apologise. what candidates seem to understand that they need to apologise.— they need to apologise. what is interesting _ they need to apologise. what is interesting is _ they need to apologise. what is interesting is that _ they need to apologise. what is interesting is that kevin - they need to apologise. what is interesting is that kevin was - they need t

what is the most conservative think about you? i the most conservative think about ou?believe in opportunity. i grew up in the west _ you? i believe in opportunity. i grew up in the west midlands. you? i believe in opportunity. i. grew up in the west midlands to working—class parents who came here, started a business. my values are rooted in my family, the places i have lived in, the small town in nottinghamshire i represent. i want the conservative party to be the trade union for the working people of this country.— of this country. robert jenrick, thank you- _ of this country. robert jenrick, thank you- he _ of this country. robert jenrick, thank you. he said _ of this country. robert jenrick, thank you. he said he - of this country. robert jenrick, thank you. he said he will i of this country. robert jenrick, thank you. he said he will be l of this country. robert jenrick, i thank you. he said he will be going to 50 events in the next few days. all candidates will be put through their paces on the main stage and take questions from people who will be sitting in the a

conservative party at large.remy hunt has said that he would have died to have had the legacy that chancellor rachel reeves had when he took over . chancellor rachel reeves had when he took over. biggest lies we've had since labour came to office is this nonsense about having the worst economic inheritance since the second world war? inflation, 2% jobs, succession of conservative governments that created 800 jobs for every single day that they were in office. it wasn't just the fastest growth in the g7. just the fastest growth in the 67. when labour took over, but the international monetary fund said that over the next six years we are projected to grow faster than france, germany, italy or japan . so i mean, that italy orjapan. so i mean, that is a legacy, frankly, that i would have died to have when i became chancellor so does the shadow chancellor have a point? well, who better to ask than the former chancellor of exchequer, nadhim zahawi? nadhim, first of all, thank you very much for coming in. >> thank you f

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but there wasn't a conservative party to implement that, and there wasn't a conservative government.n britain, been largely within the conservative party since robert peel. it seems to me that conservatism is actually a fundamentally christian, that there are two strong christian beliefs that underpin conservatism. >> one is they believe in free will, and the second is that they believe in original sin, and that this runs through all conservative thought from the time of christ. >> there are many people who are not christians who advocate free will and who believe that human nature . as such, it will never nature. as such, it will never be perfect. >> but we are strongly influenced in this country by the christian tradition. >> it's part of our cultural history. >> absolutely right. and the socialist in some ways admirably thinks that you can create a new jerusalem. the conservative looks back at history and recognises. now i've put it in terms of original sin. you wouldn't, but that's just for the birds. and that this goes back much beyond robert peel, socialists believe that when t

the way i explained this to a conservative who, may not share conservative goals, but a conservativeho says the right ways to use muscular state intervention to achieve our goals or else we will never get there. to use the case of u.s. steel, anybody in the room know who the top shareholders are of u.s. steel? >> blackrock. vivek: blackrock. blackrock is the top shareholder of u.s. steel, a top shareholder, along with vanguard. the very institutions that have advanced so-called environmental, social, and governance agendas through proxy voting power in american corporations, since i do find it to be a bit of a mystery that it would be a nominally conservative call for the u.s. government to intervene on behalf of blackrock to remain the largest shareholder of an american corporation, when in fact, that so american fund of blackrock has been voting for emissions caps u.s. companies while failing to vote for the same caps on chinese companies, has been voting for diversity quotas and mandates in u.s. company boardrooms in a way they have not been doing in ex-u.s. company boardrooms, ra

what happened is the conservatives punished the conservative party, the conservatives voted for reformrvative party will lose because there is a generation of young conservatives who are frustrated with a party that is only representing labour, but slower laboun representing labour, but slower labour, but just a little bit less. no, we want a conservative party with conservative values. this country is screaming out for family policies which support young people to get married, have kids, buy a house and no person my age is able to really do that with much support. we have the highest loneliness rate we've ever seen in this country. we are struggling as a nation. we're struggling as a nation. we're struggling as a generation of young people, and we need a conservative frame of mind, a conservative frame of mind, a conservative framework on which to be able to base our lives. and yet no political party with any power within my lifetime basically has been able to offer that to us. and that's why the conservatives lost. and so for anyone in the conservative party to say we now need to loo

its kind of conservative. my dad, i got my political principles from father as the book charles and so there's an overlap between some conservatives and libertarians that but not all conservatives. well, there's a line in book where is northwestern? where were you raised? i was raised in a place called calumet city, illinois which is a suburb south of chicago, about 20 to 25 miles south of chicago. but culturally, it's part of northwest indiana. we're on the on the state line road. in fact. when i was a boy, i used to love to ride my bicycle on both sides of the state line, state line road. and so we were culturally part of northwest indiana. and so when i got my sat scores, i went to thornton, fractional north, also jewish, and there were hardly any -- in calumet city in my graduating class of 400, there were four --. but when i got my sat scores and i met with my counselor. he said, oh, with your score at test scores, you could get into northwestern. and i went really? where is that? because as far as i was

there are then four at the conservative party conference in birmingham this week appealing to conservativemembers. but there is no vote this week, they will then come back to parliament next week where conservative mps will have their say again and they will whittle it down to three and then too. and finally conservative party members, no doubt informed at least in part i would happens at the conference this week, will decide on the two with the final announcement on second november. final announcement on second november-— november. lots of talk about weather kept _ november. lots of talk about weather kept his _ november. lots of talk about weather kept his reform - november. lots of talk about weather kept his reform are i weather kept his reform are really challenging the conservatives and their agenda. does that explain what we have seen from kemi badenoch today? is certainly the case that reform are challenging the conservatives in the sense that they took five mps from them. but the very live debate underpinning this election is, do you just chase the votes you lost to reform? should

if the conservative party want to do i conservative party want to do anything _ conservative party wantll. _ conservative party want to do anything at all, it _ conservative party want to do anything at all, it should - conservative party want to do| anything at all, it should want conservative party want to do i anything at all, it should want to rebuild _ anything at all, it should want to rebuild but— anything at all, it should want to rebuild but it — anything at all, it should want to rebuild but it should _ anything at all, it should want to rebuild but it should start - anything at all, it should want to rebuild but it should start by- rebuild but it should start by examining _ rebuild but it should start by examining why— rebuild but it should start by examining why did _ rebuild but it should start by examining why did they- rebuild but it should start byl examining why did they lose. rebuild but it should start by- examining why did they lose. no party— examining why did they lose. no party gets— examining why did they lose. no party gets back into _ examining why did they los

did your party, | the conservatives, deserve to lose? i the conservatives, deserve to lose?cy _ lose? i think there is a time when democracy needs - lose? i think there is a time when democracy needs a i lose? i think there is a time - when democracy needs a change of government. i can see that in 1997. we had been in government for 18 years and it was perfectly true to say that we were tired and we were running out of fresh ideas. we were running out of fresh people to make ministers and reinject the government with vigour. the same thing applies, although it was only 1a years on this occasion. although it was only 14 years on this occasion.— although it was only 14 years on this occasion. are you glad to see the _ on this occasion. are you glad to see the back— on this occasion. are you glad to see the back of— on this occasion. are you glad to see the back of the - on this occasion. are you glad j to see the back of the rwanda scheme? ~ , , ., scheme? absolutely. it was un-conservative, _ scheme? absolutely. it was un-conservative, and - scheme? absolutely. it was i un-co

conservative mps two.arrow it down to just two by the middle of october, and conservative members will vote by the end of october. we can expect to see a result on november the 1st. at the moment, it does look as though robert jenrick and kemi badenoch will be the two who make it to that ballot paper. but as i say, with so few mps and we're talking about such small numbers here, such very fine margins, it could all be shaken up at the last minute. >> thank you. olivia exciting stuff. a stark contrast to the support from mps and compared to the membership, i imagine that very many tory members won't be happy. that pretty has gone because she probably, i would argue, would have been one of the favourites. we're going to continue this after the break. olivia is hopefully joining us and i've asked pretty and her team to see if they'll join us for some instant reaction. where will these votes now be going ? will these votes now be going? who will get boost from her exit out of the tory leadership race? this is

we need to be confident conservatives again.conservatives again because our party has principals. the very best principles. they are the principles of the british people, principles not of the centre ground but of the common ground. they are the source of our country does much strengthen its heritage and its future. with the right engineering there are no limits to what we can do. it is time to begin this work and gave new hope, time to renew. applause thank you. applause thank you, everybody. i will now take questions from the media. first... there are some here. thank you. first question is chris mason from the bbc. you. first question is chris mason from the bbc-— from the bbc. first day back. you talked about _ from the bbc. first day back. you talked about a _ from the bbc. first day back. you talked about a critique _ from the bbc. first day back. you talked about a critique of - from the bbc. first day back. you talked about a critique of the - talked about a critique of the previous— talked about a critique of the previo

well, you say the conservative party — i don't know why you single out the conservative party.n the country. there always has been. but is there in your party? i think there probably is in a number of parties. i don't think it's solely within the conservative party. it's certainly — some of it is in the conservative party, some of it is in reform uk, i've no doubt some of it is in the labour party. don't forget when you look at politics, people tend to think that fascism and communism are at opposite ends of the political pole. they're not. they meet. they're next to one another. so, it's not fair to say it is just the conservative party. how do you think...? there are people in the conservative party who advocate policies i would disagree with. i wouldn't call them bigots. they're entitled to their view and i'm entitled to my view. we should be proud that people from all around the world look on us as a bastion of freedom and wish to come here. why has immigration got to the levels it has — over 700,000 net — do you think? well, there's been a big change, of course, since brex

conservative peer and former conservative party treasurer and gb news board member lord farmer joinsmber lord farmerjoins me in member lord farmer joins me in the studio now. lovely to see you. >> i should just correct you there, camilla. lovely to see you. i'm not a board member. >> you're not a board member. >> you're not a board member. >> my son is. >> my son is. >> your son is. >> my son is. >> your son is . we like to say >> your son is. we like to say that just in the interests of transparency. exactly, can you tell me why you are so concerned about david lammy's decision making on arms to israel? because you've sort of made hints that you think that there's a degree of risk and harm to british jews because of that decision. is that right? yes. >> well, i've, i recently made a statement on my position on anti—semitism and actually on the israel , anti—semitism and actually on the israel, hamas war. and frankly, to try and cut it short, i think anti—semitism in this country has been inching upwards the whole time. and if you ask me, it's become mainstream. i mean, we see it tod

where the conservatives lacked care and compassion, we will offer hope.d dreams. fighting to fix the early years and the high needs postcode lottery, campaigning tirelessly for free school meals and a councillor in every school, making the case to turbocharge tutoring and broadening our children's horizons. ambition and optimism, care and compassion, hope and opportunity. that is deliberate mission. that is our job, let's get to work. applause studio: so, that his munira wilson getting the applause at the liberal democrat conference, she is the education spokesperson, ending her keynote speech to the party's her keynote speech to the pa rty�*s conference her keynote speech to the party's conference in brighton. she talked about free school meals, mental health services and the pupil premium and special educational needs. she began her speech by talking about how the liberal democrats have a serious job to do, being the constructive opposition to the constructive opposition to the labour government, as she said the conservatives were divided. listening to

do you think the conservative _ do that. do you think the conservative party - do that.ever it comes? ., ., next election whenever it comes?— next election whenever it comes? ., ., ., comes? i do, and i can say that with more _ comes? i do, and i can say that with more confidence _ comes? i do, and i can say that with more confidence than - comes? i do, and i can say that with more confidence than i - with more confidence than i might— with more confidence than i might have done three months a-o might have done three months ago in — might have done three months ago in the wake of the election defeat, — ago in the wake of the election defeat, because as far as i can see, _ defeat, because as far as i can see, the — defeat, because as far as i can see, the labour party made no preparation for governing. what they are — preparation for governing. what they are doing wrong is not just— they are doing wrong is not just depressing as a citizen but also _ just depressing as a citizen but also surprising. they don't appear— but also surprising. they don't appear to _ but also su

but both of those carry some risk for the conservatives.keir starmer will go back to rishi sunak and pin that to his time in government and actions that he will say the conservatives did not take. it seems the most likely thing we are likely to see the conservatives try to put to the prime minister under pressure on today is again, that issue about withdrawing the winter fuel allowance, about withdrawing the winter fuelallowance, mean about withdrawing the winter fuel allowance, mean testing it and withdrawing it from all apart from those in the lowest incomes. we have had that vote incomes. we have had that vote in parliament yesterday where we saw around 50 labour mps who did not vote, around 20 of those had expressed opposition to the plans. we have also seen the trade unions putting on a lot of pressure over the course of the last couple of days, they are meeting at their annual congress in brighton and there have been a series of criticism is from union leaders aimed at the labour leadership about their decision to do that and just thi

but conservative party leader.gh this conference, was clearly a big focal point to still making waves even after losing office and losing her seat, she probably still has her fans there at the tory party conference. >> i'm sure people who thought perhaps she was the one that got away, others not so much. but yes , rishi sunak leaving after yes, rishi sunak leaving after just just one speech. that's very interesting. he wants to leave the floor, presumably for the tory contenders or something like that. we are going to be checking in with christopher hope, who's going to be hosting these big q and a's for the tory leadership hopefuls. but for now, thank you very much indeed. tom harwood please sit at home, get in touch with us. gbnews.com/yoursay please do. but let's get the headlines with mark . white. mark. white. >> good afternoon. it's 2:03. the latest headlines from the gb news centre. the bbc has apologised to former strictly come dancing contestant amanda abbington, saying it had assessed and upheld some, but

and, in a conservative >> yeah.rty where you was an mp again, would you be welcoming people like nigel farage into the fold? because i'm getting asked this question. oh, there's no interest in i know, nigel, i've always said yes , haven't i. so i always said yes, haven't i. so i think he's been. >> i'd welcome you back, lee. you know, if we got our act together, we could be brought together, we could be brought together . together. >> you know what, andrea? i look at the leadership contenders now for your party. and funnily enough, it's amazing. my majority is bigger than all of them. and these were people that had 25,000 majorities. >> so, i mean, i don't and they still don't learn the lessons. i mean, i don't regret not coming over lee, because i do believe in going down with a with a ship. you know, i did get elected on that. and i genuinely don't miss that. and i genuinely don't miss that. and i genuinely don't miss that. and do i really want to be in the chamber at the moment seeing angela rayner grandstanding

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we have heard from the conservative l heard from the conservative party, tom tugendhat, one of the leadinghas said that rosie duffield has said it all and that this is, this has been, if you like, a gift to labour party's main biggest political opponent who are just gathering for their annual conference which begins tomorrow. so all of rosie duffield's criticisms you will hear i am sure repeated over the next few days by conservative mps, conservative politicians, so many labour will feel she has handed a stick with which to beat sir keir starmer to the conservative party, internally inside the labour party there have been some who have not wanted to comment on the record but saying they are deeply concerned about the policies, the cuts in particular to benefits, to the winter fuel support that goes to pensioners, and the fact that thatis pensioners, and the fact that that is being removed. and they want downing street to change tact but sir keir starmer and downing street have insisted that this is something they have to do to balance the budget this year and that they have always said th