and for more i'm joined by constantine graw she is a local politician and an activist for more inclusion here in germany it's good to have you on the show i want to ask you are people with disabilities are they seen primarily as exactly that people with disabilities and not as citizens students art is. i guess oh yes particularly in the media we only showed these able people in populate when it's about disabled policies about disability we don't show them in other contexts like and attainment or sports so i think we have a difficulty in germany and overall in the world to show and disobey to disabled people and normal people who have a normal job. and what about the way we describe people with disabilities you know we say for example we don't say that someone is blind we say that maybe they have vision disability is how important is the link which for improving inclusion or does it actually work to hinder more inclusion. and i think words to describe our realities so it's very important to use the words correctly and them if i look in look in the in the situation in john when we have a b