>> when constantinople broke from rome, and so since then, it's been not animosity but not exactly an as you would like. so to have him then show up here, uninvited, invited, we're not sure. no formal invitations went out. maybe he just came on his own. but to have him here is symbolic and it's real because it hasn't happened. and for me, already he has ecumenical outreach in his own country, among jews, other states. i think we're going to see a lot more from this pope. we're going to see him reaching out to other rites. other christian denominations, and to jews. >> pope benedict went to constantinople, we don't call it that anymore, but there was a great sign, a great image of the patriarch bartholomew and pope benedict standing to the as the patriarch hosted him. the patriarch was also present at pope john paul's funeral and there have been other occasions when they've been together. sharing in the sign of peace, even though they don't share together in communion. >> ron allen who is in rome right now, to share in the sign of peace on the altar, if the terminology is correct, righ