and in rocky mount, virginia, constitution party nominee virgil goode, the former six- term congressman was first elected as a democrat and later switched to the republican party. we are reairing parts of last as presidential debate, pausing to give third-party candidates a chance to respond the same questions put to republican mitt romney and democrat president barack obama. we return to debate moderator candy crowley of cnn. >> lorraine osarios has a question for you. >> how are you doing? romney, what are your -- what you plan on doing with immigrants without their green cards and are currently living here as productive members of society. >> thank you. thank you for your question. let me step back and tell you what i would like to do with our immigration policy broadly and include an answer to your question. first of all, this is a nation of immigrants. we welcome people coming to this country as immigrants. my dad was born in mexico of american parents. my wife's that was born in wales and is a first-generation american. we welcome legal immigrants into this country. i want our leg

stein from the green party rocky anderson from the justice party and virgil goode from the constitution party know all these four candidates i see for me i personally see them as individuals i don't even think the party system works because the origins of the constitution our forefathers it doesn't even mention parties in the constitution so i look forward to seeing the ideas discussed in seeing that common denominator and i see a huge peaceful movement arising in two thousand and thirteen and lots of kids people wanting to run for office in the two thousand and fourteen elections and i proceeded back to this notion of third party candidates being called spoilers as i mentioned interaction virgil goode who a lot of people haven't heard of you know but he served in the u.s. congress he served the state senate in virginia the romney campaign is very worried about having his name on the ballot that that help you know take away votes from mommy talk about this notion that third party candidates are spoilers especially in close elections well the system was so concerned the two parties that they w

fortunately she was arrested yesterday that was so wrong virgil goode with the constitution party and rocky anderson the former mayor of utah with the justice party so really great candidates and i look forward to well being a cold moderator with that debate with larry king of all people larry king so it's i'm very humbled by all of this happening so quickly it should be very interesting and. apparently there's a panel before that that i'm sure you have what i'm going to do how does that work oh it's so cool we have four political correspondents the final one yet to be compared yourself thank you so much for being a part of the stork event we also have josh tallie and another individual ben swan fox i'm so excited in their fourth want to be a lady to be announced so yeah you'll be on from six thirty this seven thirty an hour before to interview a celebrity's hopefully jesse ventura ralph nader hope to see him tomorrow in d.c. and ron paul just just got you know now knows about what we're doing so fingers crossed that ok sounds like a plan to third party movements i mean the convention

house of representatives and the constitution party nominees for the earth. and the final independent candidate is former governing gary johnson this is thank. the earth through gary thank you gary as the libertarian party nominee the first question for tonight probably is our electoral system this question is from the free and equal elections foundation posting this debate and will be asked by her seen at token christina thank you i will start from the left to the right and here's our question. a top two primary is an election in which party labels appear on the ballot but parties do not nominate candidates and says that the candidates choose their own ballot label all candidates run in the primary but only the top two vote getters appear on the ballot in the november election the system is currently used in louisiana washington state and california it is now a ballot measure and arizona prop one twenty one with other states interested in adopting the system what is your position on the top two primary system and why will. thank you and again thank you so muc

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in a few moments, a debate among the presidential candidates of the libertarian party, the constitution party, and the justice party. after that, a debate among the candidates for the senate in indiana. >> on "washington journal,", we we will talk with the deputy rep order of the route. we will also talk with programs focusing on the battleground state, starting with florida. our guests include brian crowley, when the curry, and steven van gorp. washington journal is live on c- span every day at 7:00 a.m. eastern. several live events to tell you about tomorrow. the news briefing with leon panetta. kennecott 30 a.m. eastern. a couple of political events in the afternoon, including paul ryan. he will be at cleveland state university to talk about the economy and job creation. just before 5:00 p.m., we will bring you president obama's rally in denver. one of three campaign events for the president tomorrow. also in iowa and nevada. >> i regularly watch the the washington journal." -- watched "washington journal." i also watch c-span online. c-span provides information to us that is rare. into a'

but the constitution party candidate could be a spoiler sifing off critical votes from the leading presidential candidates and impacting the state's 13 electoral votes. >> i've heardmany times that a -- many times a vote for virgil would be a protest vote. against what? the answer normally is i don't like either candidate. >> we like the fact he is rupping here. >> reporter: anet mack is working the phones at obama headquarters scrambling to capitalize on the good factor. >> the votes that were going to go for him are probably intended for romney. >> reporter: he's on the ballot in 26 states. even if he pulls a fraction of a% in virginia, it could affect the outcome. >> candidates have been largely ignored in the debates is so far, but tomorrow they will all participate in a live internet only debate moderated by larry king. >> some voters are already casting ballots. today was the first day of early voting in washington, d.c. and those polls will reopen at 8 a.m. sharp. in virginia they have already gotten going with their absentee vote programs. >>> his lawyers apparently are concerned about

joined by rocky anderson, the justice party presidential candidate, and virgil goode of the constitution party. to talk more about the debates themselves, we're joined by george farah, founder and executive director of open debates. he is also author of, "no debate: how the republican and democratic parties secretly control the presidential debates." and we're joined by glenn greenwald, columnist and blogger for the guardian newspaper, author of, "with liberty and justice for some: how the law is used to destroy equality and protect the powerful." we welcome you both back to "democracy now!" george, last night the contract between the campaigns was released for this debate. talk about it. how long is it? >> this is a 21-page contract negotiated by the obama campaign and the romney campaign. it dictates the terms of the presidential debates. this contract was not made public in 2008, but was in three prior election seasons only because we got copies from whistleblowers. this is a fantastic document to see just how much the campaigns manipulate the process. there are fascinating provisions that

jill stein of the green party also took part, along with the constitution party's virgil goode and rocky anderson, nominee of the justice party. the non-profit free and equal elections foundation hosted the debate, and former cnn host larry king moderated, with questions culled from social media. there was some momentary confusion at the outset. >> let's go ahead and do opening statements. my apologies. >> i didn't know we had opening statements, i thought we were right to the questions. >> reporter: the candidates then proceeded to address everything from halting the war on drugs to reducing military spending to curbing the influence of money in politics. the justice party candidate, rocky anderson. >> the corrupting influence of money in this country is at the root of every major pub policy disaster. it's why we don't have healthcare for all as in rest of industrialized world, it's why we aren't providing international leadership on the climate crisis, because all corrupting money coming from the fossil fuel industry. >> reporter: on that subject, gary johnson, a former republican gove

i would like to see not only the green party that i'd like to the libertarian party the constitutional party the. justice party i mean we've got a bunch of parties united we need to seriously consider instant runoff voting a proportional representation changing our electoral system to crack open american politics so we can have multiple parties here in united states christine and shana dale pennsylvania hey christine what's on your mind tonight well i had one really quick comment and it is the. slogan of smaller government equals directly unelected corporate control you're absolutely right and i very much appreciate your pointing that out because this is you know this is the choice they come to and they say do you really want the government between you and your doctor well if the answer is no then what's the alternative you know united health care and steven cherry hundley with this billion dollar paycheck between you and your doctor it's when government goes down when the power of government goes down which is we the people was making our own decisions electing people to do what we want and

good constitution party and rocky anderson justice party this is story presidential debate will take place on october twenty third at eight pm central time at the university club of chicago. so a debate for third party candidates many of whom you will see on the ballot in most states and yet whose ideas you rarely hear about because the media really pays the many mind or for that matter and the air time joining me to talk more about this is christina tobin founder and chair of free and fair elections christina talk to me a little bit about next week's debate have you invited the president and governor governor romney to participate well thank you for having me work with the free and equal actions foundation and of course we did invite both romney and obama to participate in this debate but as we know the commission on presidential debates is committing a fraud on the american voters according to the league of voters and i don't expect them to attend but we welcome them to but we do do do have four candidates confirmed for this debate talk a little bit about some of the issues you exp

party of the green party's dr jill stein former virginia congressman virgil goode with the constitution party and former salt lake city mayor rocky anderson with the justice party i should mention this debate was aired on c.-span and al-jazeera as well but none of the major cable networks aired it even though the host and larry king spent decades working for c.n.n. before candidates agreed on more than they disagreed upon but last night their ideas and their faces were thrust into the spotlight something that doesn't often happen despite being on the ballot in many states one of the topics covered was an issue that has played a major role in our elections and in our democratic process as a whole campaign finance here are a couple of the candidates speaking about that. they would have never signed the national defense authorization act allowing for you when i was you was that is to be arrested and detained without being charged that's the reason we called or was this. it's an outrage ten twenty one and it would. start with. it's kind of betrayal of our civil liberties that the president has th

presidential debate moderated by larry king debating tonight our virgil goode candidate from the constitution party joel stein candidate from the green party. candidate from the libertarian party and rocky anderson came in from the justice party and before the debate starts tom hartman will be live from chicago friday analysis and insight on a variety of issues including what we can expect to hear from the debate participants so stay right here and as tom always says don't forget democracy begins with you get out there get active occupy something tag you're it. well for science technology innovation all the rest of elements from around russia we've got the future covered. download the official application. choose your language stream quality and enjoy your favorite. t.v. is not required to watch on t.v. all you need is your mobile device to watch our team any time. wealthy british style.

he's running as the constitution party candidate and served in virginia state legislature and congress as a democrat, republican, and independent. he is an eccentric former gop congressman who would throw a wrench in mitt romney's campaign stealing votes away in the battleground states. >> i have advocated and near complete moratorium on green cards and tell unployment is 95%. >> he raised mere pennies compared to the millions by both candidates, but his small group of supporters are strong. he is on the ballot in about 30 states, a write-in in others. fox 5 the to hear from you as we approach election day. use the hash tag fox 5 d.c. you decide to tweet your thoughts about the candidates, the issues, the election and more as we count down to november. >>> >>> searchers found the bot -- found the body of a missing virginia boy. they searched the wooded area before butmis said a spot. the group of volunteers came upon it today. the medical examiner will rule on his cause of death. >>> still ahead here on the edge, hurricane katrina survivors fight back. why a ward has gone too far. sue.

and the more conservative members both the libertarian former governor and the member of the constitution party virgil goode. were both true right wingers and he would not be able to talk out of both sides of his mouth with either of those two up on the stage so if you had the two the green add the justice party person stands and left of obama and the other to the right of romney you would actually see a diversity of opinion which i did not see last night but with a genuine perception that the republicans and democrats are buzz driven by giant corporations and out of touch with the people challenging by a big debate about ties it comes into reaching out to the working clock that feel so i'm represented yes it's going to be interesting to see what the effect was of r.t. airing this also because once r.t. announced that it was going to air c.-span and some other local. media actually got this out so i think that that's where they are because these candidates actually reached a good number of people tonight and they may that may well have an impact i'm curious to see what happens on november sixth

moderate the debate between libertarian candidate gary johnson, green party candidate jill stein constitution party candidate virgil goode, and rocky anderson of the justice party. it will take place next tuesday october 23rd at the chicago hilton and tower. the debate will also air on ora t-v the internet t-v network that carries king's online talk show. next at noon hundreds of names are made public from an investigation into sexual abuse cases within "the boy scouts of america". encouraging signs of recovery by the pakastani teenger who was shot and critically wounded by the taliban. and infamous housing site in chicago willl soon have a tenant. ♪ ♪ ♪ pop goes the world ♪ ♪ it goes something like this ♪ [ female announcer ] pop in a whole new kind of clean with new tide pods... just one removes more stains than the 6 next leading pacs combined. pop in. stand out.ú= >>more than 20 thousand confidential boy scout documents that have come to be known as the perversion files will be released to the public today. the documents identify more than a thousand scout leaders and volunteers who were banned

for all of these candidates for the justice party the green party the libertarian party the constitution party one thing i know they all have in common do you support reducing defense spending to balance the budget all yes i guess that's why they will always see these be their party candidates because that doesn't isn't going to. we're going to answer what are you in are we going to see what they look at with their shirt off that isn't important to your johnson or with a shirt off i'd like to know that the like someone i'm interested maybe if there was a public interest in that we would see more headway made in the mainstream by these third party candidates better they should be doing see that's the thing that's a big mistake that your johnson has done he hasn't actually he should too should streak make it across the white house lawn there you go you want to get press coverage america then that's your best oh yes that's the best we've got wrong you should be running around waiting for the capitol building go straight and then you'll be invited to participate in the presidential nomination of t

the candidates from the green the potemkin constitution parties have been excluded as we just heard from ghana from those t.v. debates and largely ignored by the media politics professor stephen zene says it's america's electoral system that's robbing people of a genuine choice unfortunately the choice is not as great as many of us would like to see. one problem with the american political system is that we don't have a portion representation that we have so it's a winner take all system by state through the electoral college pretty much realistically anyway the only choices are these two main parties combined effect had nor to get elected specially the president you need to raise millions and millions of dollars and you have to of course go to people who have that kind of money and many americans myself included with the preferred of the political system where we could get our conscience about our ideals or what we believe in instead we seem to be naturally stuck in this cycle every four years of voting for the lesser evil in many respects. well as frustrated as i am that there is not m

democracies around the world third party fourth party fifth party now this is these are some because of structural problems our constitution pretty much drives a two party system. but we could change it with things like i r.v.'s are a voting proportional representation of what those other countries around the world multiple political parties demonstrate so well is that a wide variety of political parties including fringe parties what we might consider to be fringe parties actually drives a more vibrant and healthy political discourse and that's what we need here in the united states i think a lot of people are surprised i know when i was young and went to the polls for the first time i was surprised to see more than two can't presidential candidates names on the ballot i mean what do you think it says that that these repeat these are people who we can vote for their names on the ballot especially you know it in at least some of the states and yet we don't know much about them at all i think what it says is that it's a tragedy that we allowed the democratic and republican parties to game the system to come up with this fift

party the green party's dr jill stein former virginia congressman virgil goode and the with the constitution party and former salt lake city mayor who you see there rocky anderson with the justice party the candidates spoke about several topics including something we speak i'm on a lot here at our team and national defense authorization act signed signed into law by president obama nearly a year ago. i would have never signed the national defense authorization act allowing for you when i was you was that is to be arrested and detained without being charged that's the reason we call or is this. it's an outrage ten twenty one and it would. start with. it's an incredible pull the trail of our civil liberties that the president has assumed dictatorial rights to put us in prison at his pleasure without charge or without trial this is an allowable and is a basic offense against the very foundation of american liberty and. i should mention in addition to airing here on our t.v. it was also aired on al-jazeera and on c.-span but on none of the major cable networks you know the host larry king spent decade

panel there over in chicago speaking to virtual guide he is the presidential candidate for the constitution party now john i understand that virgil goode it was a member of numerous parties yeah i mean this is. very interesting man i mean you he is safe to say the most conservative out of all of the candidates here of all the four and he started off interesting live as a democrat so he's a democrat like democrat turned republican who actually voted to impeach bill clinton shortly thereafter that's when he turned to you know to being a republican but it's interesting he is also for term limits for congressman even though he if i'm not mistaken is a six time. former congressman from virginia and it's very also very interesting that he's rather popular there still so it is very it is very real and very accurate to say that he might have some sort of impact when it comes to the elections especially in that state especially in order to you know sort of siphon off votes from mitt romney so this is you know still very very very important so so it's interesting that you bring that up that he can have an

i also want to mention that what the republican party did to the libertarian party and the constitution party, the republican party is definitely -- with the voter i.d. law, all they want to do is disenfranchise the voter, ok? the republican party -- the libertarian party went through nine weeks of hell just to get 1% of the vote. the libertarian party never got more than 1% of the vote nationally, and i think it is absolutely ridiculous, i volunteered for the libertarian party, and they were arguing over signatures that were absolute signatures. what a waste of time and money, taxpayer money, because that had to go into the courts. host: let me ask terry madonna about their parties and the pennsylvania ballot. guest: for the presidency, gary johnson will be on the ballot, as will jill stein from the green party. both pennsylvania voters -- will have essentially four choices for the presidency. guehost: the headline from the "philadelphia inquirer," obama still ahead, but romney up. joining us is the politics writer for the "philadelphia inquirer." how many do survey, what were the results? c

. >> he is not a member of the constitution party. that was on there. are they talking about the paper document or how one is feeling as in i have a delicate constitution. >> i think they are talking about the toilet paper the congressman is using jie. how dare you, sir? you are right, they suck. >> i say bill o'reilly. >> well, my name is bill, bill owe schulz. he culls me sometimes. my other platform would be, platforms, i love platform shoes. they make me taller. they are established. what are your thoughts on platform shoes? >> thanks so much, guys, over and out. >> in edit we will make it look like you disappear. >> nice. >> you look at this opulent ballroom where the debate is going to take place and you can't rep but think of the scene in beauty and the beast when bell and the beast finally dance. ♪ tale as old as time ♪ something, something, something smote. ♪ ♪ beauty and the beast >> i don't know if it will be possible, bill, but we will try to be more intomorrow tiff and entertaining than the slop i just watched. >> i may talk to some candidat

gary johnson, jill stein, rocky anderson and virgil good of the constitutional party.hey discussed the war that the democratic and republican candidate refused to discuss, the america's longest war. the war on drugs. >> 90% of the drug problem is prohibition related, not use related. so let's legalize marijuana now. i am not a hypocrite on this issue. i have drank alcohol, i've smoked marijuana. >> the most important thing we can do to get rid of the health problems associated with marijuana is to legalize it. >> we don't just need to legalize marijuana, we need to end drug prohibition just like we ended alcohol prohibition. >> i would cut federal spending on the war on drugs. however, drug use is primarily a state issue, not a federal issue. i'm not for legalizing marijuana use or other drug use. >> and imagine if congress passed a bill that the president signed that allowed indefinite detention without charge or trial. that would would be issue one at any presidential debate, wouldn't it? the media's favorite debate moderator martha would have forced a discussion on

jill stein of the green party constitution party candidate virgil good and rocky anderson. while the debate did focus on the economy, they also touched on issues president obama and mitt romney would never touch. such as the drug war campaign finance reform and the u.s. government spying on its own citizens. it is a pleasure to be joined now on the show by dr. jill stein who is running for president as a member of the green party. good evening dr. stein. thank you so much for your time tonight. >> it is great to be with you john. >> john: great to have you. when i was watching all of the presidential debates this year including the republican party one of my drinking game words was ndaa. i had to drive everyone else home. it was interesting watching the debate where i think so many on the left and the right saw the issues being discussed that have been ignored by the two party debates. was it fun for you to be a part of that venue? >> absolutely. these are the issues that the american people are really clamoring to talk about. and our campaign since we're not a -- a corpora

are gary johnson of the libertarian party, jill stein of the green party, virgil goode of the constitution party and rocky anderson of the justice party. those are some of the day's major stories. now, back to gwen. >> ifill: and we return to last night's debate by looking more closely at some of the debatable arguments made by both candidates, and sorting through the rhetoric. ray suarez picks up that part of the story. >> the confrontations in last night's debate came early and often, with charges and denials flying. so we spent part of this day examining the candidates' statements for context and contradictions on three key issues. first, libya, and the attack that killed the u.s. ambassador and three other americans on september 11th. president obama and mitt romney sparred heatedly over whether the administration was honest about what happened. the president strongly criticized romney's initial response to the attack. >> president obama: while we were still dealing with our diplomats being threatened, governor romney put out a press release. trying to make political points. and that's not h