now you are a consultanlooking at bignd small. from the big company perspective, what is the biggest mistake they are still making? they are getting hacked right and left. >> one of the mistakes they're makingng is thinking ciber is an industry. thatat's not t our industry. we don''t need to worry abouout it are criticainfrastructures e covered, you needo be protected. rebecca: forget caing anything cyber, it's all cyber now. onone of the points i have heard people make when it c comes to small business and cyber security is, you are using your smart phone for everything from payment optns to running your cocompany to rning y your home. ll us some of the steps you ll small binesses they nee to really be speaking about -- thinkingbout when it com to cyber security. >> one of e thingthat people arstill counting on, the personal computer as their primary engine for communicating, doing work, exchangingng documents, etc. onee of the things we are focusing o on in our work with small busisses and in the consumer side of the iustry is g