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. >> rose: what was the impactf that both the speech and the convsationing if thepeech? >> i think, first of all, t environment creat after the eech was great. the feeling that the speech it s was structed very positive way. before therab world was asked to take side-- either with us or against us w we have someone with open diussion and debate that was very pitive. course people would say give the man in some time because the issues are very kplibhed. we will give hi some te in orr to show wt extentthis etoric that we heawill be implemented on the ground. >> re: but it does seem-- according what my frids in the region say to me-- is that it showed on the part this administraon an understanding of arab politic, arab culture slim polics, that they h not heard before. and that that gavpeople-- and that he became a popular fure. >> he sindeed. obama say very pular leader >> rose: and what opportunitie does that give him, your judgment, a former journalist? >> it gives him an opportunity of taking away the negative percepon that was generated during the last eig years. it ge