i'm joined now by 2 must sell a regional director for the sa hill at the conway aga now a foundation here in germany is based in bomb a co mr schiller thanks for joining us where these people very unlucky to be taken hostage or were they foolish to be visiting the area. good afternoon from the. onset your question or answer your question a little bit with luck because. the area of move from. is considered since a long time is a very long time as a very dangerous one as a no go area if you look at the map from the foreign ministry. it is formally. not counsel for the french and. other. western. countries. they should have known then what more do we know about the group who took them. there are a lot of groups operating in. north. austin it's these are separate small groups which take hostages initially and then hand them over to larger groups and. in this case. this is a small group from both. the hostage taking and the hostages on the way to mali that the french general command said that it was really the last option. being. to mali and being handed over to a larger terrorist it woul