i wonder how you reconcile that calvin cooliage, 1924, the northwest european stock. the mule mantarian character of -- he was also, i believe, said to have embraced eugenics, i guess teddy roosevelt was also thought along those same lines. do you judge this as being a creature of the times? >> they needed -- they saw babies die all of the time and they couldn't save them. on the issue of immigration, a man named john blafr wrote a dissertation in getting the immigrant vote in massachusetts. we all know he had a long career. he was good with the irish people, good with the german people, good with the southern europeans who would lose out with the johnson act. because he cared about them. he feared, as would any politician, the rise of political blocks. his path is let us consider everyone a citizen or a near citizen or a future citizen. let us not change too fast. it's not evil. >> will're done with him. we don't like to say, i'm done because the piece of legislation is shallow. >> i signed something i didn't really like. and this would have passed over his veto if h