but what about the copps? you know. >> i have plenty of questions. one of the things they did in new york city especially and sometimes new york state is the form a commission to investigate the police because by their nature they have so much power over us that they become corrupt. it's the nature of them and they do a lot of bad things. and there's never as far as i know in their recent history than any investigation of the police department in massachusetts with the fbi. and in fact as far as i know, there's never been an investigation and the fbi national the which is another big problem. so they get into a place where they are doing so many bad things and they get away with it and it becomes normal. and it's criminal, but they are doing it and its normal. so, why isn't there any push? or the devotees blue-ribbon commissions to investigate police heroes. >> the scale is so much different. there are 22,000 police officers but you raise a very good question. i am convinced from 30 years of investigation if your work directs boston it has to be on t

copp says recology is inflating their repsyching figures so they can boast they're leading the nation >> it's a good idea to recycle. it's also a good idea to be honest to the public about how much of the refuse and garbage in san francisco is actually being recycled. nobody knows except probably this company knows. they falsified the quantity. they falsified the type of material. and it's part of a bogus scheme to inflate the amount of recycling done. city hall goes along with it because it makes the politicians of city hall look good. >> reporter: how do you know that 80% figure is accurate? do you check it? >> yes, spencer, we actually do. in fact not only is our department of environment go out and do audits, we actually have auditors that go out there and make sure that we're all in compliance with the way we measure it and using the state standards and the state process to do it >> reporter: no doubt in your mind that the 80% is real. >> no doubt at all. no doubt at all in my mind >> reporter: whatever the actual number is, recycling and composting don't come free. the company's